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Sergio Martinez vs other Argentinian middleweights
Posted: 21 May 2012, 19:06
by dempseyfire
I'm excluding Monzon b/c I think everyone and their grandmother would favor Carlos, but I'm interested in how the speedy southpaw would do vs:
Eduardo Lausse
Hugo Corro
Jorge Castro
Juan Roldan
Juan Carlos Rivero
Victor Zalazar
(At 154)
Miguel Castellani
Carlos Baldomir
Re: Sergio Martinez vs other Argentinian middleweights
Posted: 21 May 2012, 19:13
by gilgamesh
I'm not familiar enough with a lot of these fighters to comment, but for what it's worth, he'd kill Carlos Baldomir. Maybe he wouldn't knock out Baldomir after all he did have a superb chin (KO loss to Canelo aside), but he'd win every round and it wouldn't be remotely close ever.
From what I know about Eduardo Lausse, Sergio would have his hands pretty damn full in the case of him.
Re: Sergio Martinez vs other Argentinian middleweights
Posted: 21 May 2012, 23:37
by giacomino
Was a big fan of Roldan and Castro but MArtinez is much quicker than both. They would have a puncher's chance but likely soak up a lot of punishment. Corro is a bit underrated IMO. Would be a good fight. Martinez is too much fo Baldomir.
Re: Sergio Martinez vs other Argentinian middleweights
Posted: 22 May 2012, 17:49
by beaujack
dempseyfire wrote:I'm excluding Monzon b/c I think everyone and their grandmother would favor Carlos, but I'm interested in how the speedy southpaw would do vs:
Eduardo Lausse
Hugo Corro
Jorge Castro
Juan Roldan
Juan Carlos Rivero
Victor Zalazar
(At 154)
Miguel Castellani
Carlos Baldomir
I have seen Eduardo Lausse fight a couple of times, and though i respect Sergio Martinez, Lausse
overwhelms Martinez with his ruggedness and non stop attack...Lausse also had a deadly left-hook, but
the MW division of his time was so deeply stacked...
Re: Sergio Martinez vs other Argentinian middleweights
Posted: 25 May 2012, 22:24
by giacomino
Lausse was before my time but the fact that he was able to come to New York and beat Tiger Jones and a just-about-to-enter-his-prime Gene Fullmer says something
Re: Sergio Martinez vs other Argentinian middleweights
Posted: 26 May 2012, 02:17
by dempseyfire
I think Lausse and Rivero, although both could be outboxed, would've overwhelmed Martinez with their strength and pressure over the distance.
I think Martinez could've edged Castro and Roldan in GREAT exciting fights. One solid punch from those 2 could turn my prediction into jelly, but Sergio's stamina saves the day.
Corro was a solid boxer but I was never impressed with him. I think Sergio could beat him with his southpaw stance and greater speed.
I like Martinez over Zalazar and Baldomir as well.
I actually don't know much about Castellani so I was hoping for some insight on him.
Re: Sergio Martinez vs other Argentinian middleweights
Posted: 27 May 2012, 18:04
by Kaber
How a very good topic!
Dempseyfire knows very well the Argentinian Middleweights!
The all time best Argentinian Middle (inclunding "Jr. Middles") were
1. Carlos Monzon
2. Eduardo Lausse
3. Rafael Merentino
4. Hugo Corro
5. Jorge Castro
6. Raul Rodriguez
All them in the same level. Merentino, was forced to retirement at only 25 years old due retine troubles in both eyes; he had scored 47 k.o. triumphs in 60 fights, winning his last 5 by K.O. When he fought Kid Gavilan, then world champion, he had twice groggy Gavilan, but he hadn't all the experience to obtain a victory. Monzon, Lausse and Merentino would ko'ed Martinez; Corro and Rodriguez could beat him on ponts, and Castro vs Martinez, both may be the winners. Baldomir was a Welter, and Castellini was a very good puncher between the Jr. Middles; of course, Sergio would beat Baldomir and Miguel Castellini, and too scored a win over Julio Cesar Vazquez, Juan Roldán, Luis Galtieri, Mario Diaz and Juan Carlos Rivero, by k.o. or decision

Re: Sergio Martinez vs other Argentinian middleweights
Posted: 29 May 2012, 15:27
by Marlin Starfish
I think Martinez-Roldan is very interesting.
Sergio doesn't have a typically Argie style (upper body movement aplenty, smooth awkwardness really) but then, neither did Monzon.
Lausse bangs him out IMO.
Roldan-Sergio is interesting, at least in the early going. Martinez has a mid-rounds lull but his second wind would likely blow out Roldan late, who was a bit of a front runner.
I'd favour him more against the Spanish crop
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