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Re: Khan V Garcia 14 July

Posted: 23 May 2012, 05:56
by Terrrrry
Easy win for Khan.

Garcia struggled with Morales. He'll get slaughtered by Khan in my opinion.

Re: Khan V Garcia 14 July

Posted: 23 May 2012, 05:56
by stujones
MachoMan09 wrote:Apologies if I've missed another topic on this subject.

Amir Khan is set to fight WBC light-welterweight champion Danny Garcia in Las Vegas on 14 Jul 12. How will this one go, if it goes?
Cracking fight, since winning the world title Khan has been a rather inconsistent performer, just as you are about to think he has matured into a fantastic little boxer with speed and power in spades he puts in a poor performance. You have to look at how Maidana struggled with a shot Morales and Alexander to really question how Khan was run so close against the Argie.

However, in Garcia you have a fighter who is equally inconsistent, scraping past Ashley Theophane doesn't look so good now given Ashley's form in the UK of late. Khan has stood up to bigger punchers and he has fought better boxers, but he has also looked poor against worst boxers.

Without much conviction I would think Khan will be too quick and win fairly comfortably on points.

Re: Khan V Garcia 14 July

Posted: 23 May 2012, 06:00
by Bennyblanco
I don't think khan will make the mistakes he did against Peterson.

Talk of getting David price on this bill aswell, hope that happens.

Re: Khan V Garcia 14 July

Posted: 23 May 2012, 06:05
by JC
Haven't seen any of Garcia's fight other than the Throphane one a couple of years back. He looked like a sitting duck for right hand counters in that one, but I'm sure he has improved since.

Re: Khan V Garcia 14 July

Posted: 23 May 2012, 06:18
by damianhucker1
I saw on the current scene forum that Seth Mitchell is on the undercard apparantly .

Re: Khan V Garcia 14 July

Posted: 23 May 2012, 06:56
by grub
The fight may not be as 'final' as it appears. According to Garcia (via BBC Sport), unless Khan gets at least one of his titles back (via appeal to WBA and IBF to have the Peterson fight declared a NC), the fight with Khan cannot happen. Garcia apparently needs to oblige Olusegun as his mandatory (finally!). Only a unification fight can take precedence....Khan therefore needs a title.

....however I'm sure a quiet word with Jose can smooth things over....and leave Ajose to continue waiting for his shot.

Re: Khan V Garcia 14 July

Posted: 23 May 2012, 06:58
by Counter-puncher
Garcia is pretty much a poor man's Khan, talentwise, and doesn't have the physicality of (say) a Peterson to really take the fight to Khan and back him up.

slightly more competitive replay of the Malignaggi fight, IMO.

Re: Khan V Garcia 14 July

Posted: 23 May 2012, 07:41
by loaded_gloves
stujones wrote:Cracking fight, since winning the world title Khan has been a rather inconsistent performer... You have to look at how Maidana struggled with a shot Morales and Alexander to really question how Khan was run so close against the Argie.
How? Probably because Khan is nowhere near as good as you believe him to be?

He fought nobody on the way up bar Prescott, and the only live, world-level bodies he has taken on are Maidana and Peterson, and those performances say it all, don't they? It's pretty clear what we have in Amir Khan.

Re: Khan V Garcia 14 July

Posted: 23 May 2012, 07:55
by Adamj1987
loaded_gloves wrote:
stujones wrote:Cracking fight, since winning the world title Khan has been a rather inconsistent performer... You have to look at how Maidana struggled with a shot Morales and Alexander to really question how Khan was run so close against the Argie.
How? Probably because Khan is nowhere near as good as you believe him to be?

He fought nobody on the way up bar Prescott, and the only live, world-level bodies he has taken on are Maidana and Peterson, and those performances say it all, don't they? It's pretty clear what we have in Amir Khan.
i would disagree to some extent with your statement, i would include Paulie Malignaggi esspecially now he has a title belt at welter and graham earl gave michael katsidis hell the fight before and katsidis was considered world class at that time but other than those 2 i agree with you

Re: Khan V Garcia 14 July

Posted: 23 May 2012, 08:01
by stujones
loaded_gloves wrote:
stujones wrote:Cracking fight, since winning the world title Khan has been a rather inconsistent performer... You have to look at how Maidana struggled with a shot Morales and Alexander to really question how Khan was run so close against the Argie.
How? Probably because Khan is nowhere near as good as you believe him to be?

He fought nobody on the way up bar Prescott, and the only live, world-level bodies he has taken on are Maidana and Peterson, and those performances say it all, don't they? It's pretty clear what we have in Amir Khan.
A bit harsh not to call Maligaggi not a live world level fighter given his exploits in the Ukraine. He's arguably as if not more live than Maidana. Zab Judah was also the world champion when Khan smashed him and just won an eliminator. If we are being honest, had Judah fought Peterson in the summer of 2011, most experts would have picked Judah.

Kotelnik beat Maidana and some say should have got the not against Alexander (who beat Maidana).... how can he not be a world level, live body, and Maidana is?

How come now Peterson is considered one of Khan's better opponent, before the fight he lost every round to Bradley and it was considered a mis match. Yes, Peterson did very well but a better resume and form than Judah going into their bouts with Khan, I would say not.

I think you can either declare that Khan has fought 5 world level, live fighters or none.... Malignaggi, Judah and Kotelnik are as good (at the time they fought Khan) as Maidana and Peterson. Three of these Khan looked brilliant in, two of these he looked poor.

Re: Khan V Garcia 14 July

Posted: 23 May 2012, 08:02
by stujones
Adamj1987 wrote:
loaded_gloves wrote:
stujones wrote:Cracking fight, since winning the world title Khan has been a rather inconsistent performer... You have to look at how Maidana struggled with a shot Morales and Alexander to really question how Khan was run so close against the Argie.
How? Probably because Khan is nowhere near as good as you believe him to be?

He fought nobody on the way up bar Prescott, and the only live, world-level bodies he has taken on are Maidana and Peterson, and those performances say it all, don't they? It's pretty clear what we have in Amir Khan.
i would disagree to some extent with your statement, i would include Paulie Malignaggi esspecially now he has a title belt at welter and graham earl gave michael katsidis hell the fight before and katsidis was considered world class at that time but other than those 2 i agree with you
So you would consider Graham Earl as world level, but not Judah (who has just won an eliminator again) and Kotelnik (who beat Maidana and ran Alexander close since) as not world level?

Re: Khan V Garcia 14 July

Posted: 23 May 2012, 11:35
by TJ77
Khan has no class sniping and whingeing believing his own hype
he will beat Garcia with ease shit fight not interested anymore .

Re: Khan V Garcia 14 July

Posted: 23 May 2012, 11:39
by jameswilson
Bennyblanco wrote:I don't think khan will make the mistakes he did against Peterson.

Talk of getting David price on this bill aswell, hope that happens.

Excellent news if Price gets on the bill.

Khan wins this handily in my opinion.

Re: Khan V Garcia 14 July

Posted: 23 May 2012, 11:52
by jimcook
garcia doesnt have much on his record bar a points win over holt. i think morales picked him as an oppnent thinking he was one of the weaker options and its hard to tell still . the fact he went the distance with both morales and holt would suggest hes no mug and is not as easy to hit cleanly as he looks, cos both can bang. I would imagine khan will be his toughest opponent to date .if he can avoid the early khan onslaught he may cause khan problems later in the fight.

Re: Khan V Garcia 14 July

Posted: 23 May 2012, 11:58
by smoggy7188
Does this mean the winner will fight Ajose? Seeeing as he has won a final elimnator and is mandatory for the belt.

Re: Khan V Garcia 14 July

Posted: 23 May 2012, 12:00
by exittored
Great fight and high quality replacement for Peterson, hopefully be for all 3 belts too.

Will probably be Khans last fight at Light welterweight win or lose.

Re: Khan V Garcia 14 July

Posted: 23 May 2012, 13:50
by jameswilson
exittored wrote:Great fight and high quality replacement for Peterson, hopefully be for all 3 belts too.

Will probably be Khans last fight at Light welterweight win or lose.
If Bradley steps back down to light welter after he loses to PAC man I'd like to see that fight happen at light welter.

Re: Khan V Garcia 14 July

Posted: 23 May 2012, 16:40
by gobbles
smoggy7188 wrote:Does this mean the winner will fight Ajose? Seeeing as he has won a final elimnator and is mandatory for the belt.

Olusegun will fight for interim title. If winner moves up (ie if Khan wins), Olusegun will be promoted to full champion

Re: Khan V Garcia 14 July

Posted: 23 May 2012, 16:52
by ryan917
Will be interesting to see Khan's conditioning with Ruben Tabares.