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who wins this?

i've only seen 1 nasser fight and none of emanueles so i'm abit clueless on this 1

Adamj1987 wrote:who wins this?

i've only seen 1 nasser fight and none of emanueles so i'm abit clueless on this 1

I hope your reasons for putting this up are honourable Adam.

Della Rosa is the current WBC International Champion and ranked no 11 in the WBC world rankings, his only defeat being to Sebastian Zbik ( who just fought for the world title against Felix Storm ) up at the higher weight of middle and Della Rosa only lost in a split decision in Germany, he is a good body puncher, very strong and very fit, Nas will be fighting in Della Rosa home town of Rome, Italy on the 16th of June for the WBC International Title, sancioned by the WBC ( I guess our tinpot, little, made up WBC belt stood us in good stead then ). Big risk fighting in the lions den against a very strong, experienced fighter, but as I said before Nas will fight anyone, anytime, any place. With regards to the illness, Nasser's virus as all but gone now and the swollen glands are going down by the day, not a 100% yet, but will be come fight week. We did ask for extra time to get over the illness for Nasser's last fight, but they could not reschedule the fight, understandably.

Dont know anything about Della Rosa , but going into the lions den in rome will likely be a tough assignment .

Anyone got any footage ?

safeerah wrote:

Adamj1987 wrote:who wins this?

i've only seen 1 nasser fight and none of emanueles so i'm abit clueless on this 1

I hope your reasons for putting this up are honourable Adam.

Della Rosa is the current WBC International Champion and ranked no 11 in the WBC world rankings, his only defeat being to Sebastian Zbik ( who just fought for the world title against Felix Storm ) up at the higher weight of middle and Della Rosa only lost in a split decision in Germany, he is a good body puncher, very strong and very fit, Nas will be fighting in Della Rosa home town of Rome, Italy on the 16th of June for the WBC International Title, sancioned by the WBC ( I guess our tinpot, little, made up WBC belt stood us in good stead then ). Big risk fighting in the lions den against a very strong, experienced fighter, but as I said before Nas will fight anyone, anytime, any place. With regards to the illness, Nasser's virus as all but gone now and the swollen glands are going down by the day, not a 100% yet, but will be come fight week. We did ask for extra time to get over the illness for Nasser's last fight, but they could not reschedule the fight, understandably.

Fair play to Dave Coldwell ( Coldwell Promotions ) for making this fight happen and negoiating all the terms and conditions, typical boxer V fighter match up, should be a great fight, great rewards in victory, WBC International title and no 11 world ranking.

damianhucker1 wrote:Dont know anything about Della Rosa , but going into the lions den in rome will likely be a tough assignment .

Anyone got any footage ?

You tube !

safeerah wrote:

damianhucker1 wrote:Dont know anything about Della Rosa , but going into the lions den in rome will likely be a tough assignment .

Anyone got any footage ?

You tube !

Here is some footage of Della rosa some time back : http://youtu.be/2eC1Hb8Mf8Q

Adamj1987 wrote:who wins this?

i've only seen 1 nasser fight and none of emanueles so i'm abit clueless on this 1

Video Della Rosa http://youtu.be/TVJsv4PJuKA

Just watched a bit on youtube ,

This fight will give Nasser Al Harbi the chance to prove the doubters wrong , Rosa is a come forward Fighter who like to throw big punches to the body , which is the kind of style id be interested in seeing Al Harbi against , Nasser has quick hand and foot speed so the types of outside boxers may suit him better , so this will answer a few questions .

Will either show Al Harbi to be someone with talent and potential or will highlight a vulnerability and a blueprint to beating him .

I would be pretty confident that Nasser wont be able to stop him , and it looks to me like he would need to be fit so that he can moving and box on the back foot , In my opinion Nassers Fitness and speed are needed to win this fight , no point trying to make a fight of it , as that will possibly see a stoppage defeat ,ive not seen Al Harbi Chin checked yet , so maybe he will be confident enough to not be stopped but if he stays within range those body shots will add up .

Needs to stay outside and box .

Adamj1987 wrote:who wins this?

i've only seen 1 nasser fight and none of emanueles so i'm abit clueless on this 1

ZBIK V DELLA ROSA http://youtu.be/gHj-sjhcZfE http://youtu.be/lpvPiaH-oLg http://youtu.be/jg0La0DZNNk

Won't happen ..... thread closed

Palimpsest wrote:Won't happen ..... thread closed

Ha Ha, Predictable !

al harbi's injuries sounded horrific when he pulled out of last weekend's fight with Gavin.....it is a miracle that he has healed so quickly

los2 wrote:al harbi's injuries sounded horrific when he pulled out of last weekend's fight with Gavin.....it is a miracle that he has healed so quickly

Really ? This is the Statement I posted for the Gavin fight.

The end of last week Nasser notice a large lump round the groin area, quite rightly I went to the doctor with him, on examination the doctor found several other lumps coming up, he relayed to us that 99% it was not Cancer, but was sure it was swollen glands, I asked can we go ahead with the fight he said yes, as long as the condition does not deteriate and told Nas to take anti imflams, then he sent us to the Hospital for blood tests, we then continued to train for the fight and sparred with Ryan Aston, Nas sparred well but was not as explosive as in previous spars, after the spar he revealed to me that the swellings had hurt bad when he was hit to the body in sparring and had now noticed they had got bigger and more painful, I said it's best to stop the fight, but he insisted he wanted to still fight, that it was a great opportunity for him, I said the best thing is if we go back to the doctor the next day, the blood tests should be back and we can make a decision then, but the next day Nasser came down with virus as well, the Doctor made an appointment for us, he did not know when the swellings would go down or the virus cease, so I CONTACTED THE PROMOTERS TO ASK FOR THE FIGHT TO BE PUT BACK A FEW WEEKS, they were unable to do this, as they had no spots available, so the fight was called off, nas has since gone back to the doctor and the hospital and they are now undergoing more tests, I hope to God it is not Glandular fever, because that can stay with you for a long time and can come back again and again, all I know is that Nasser wanted to fight and was prepared to fight through the pain barrier, but his health is more important then boxing so he can have the first rest he has had for a long time, Inshallah I hope he recovers quickly. The Doctor has sent a report to the promoters. I have sympathy for Frankie Gavin as well, because having your opponenent pull out for a big fight is heart breaking, as we have experienced many times before, but when boxers train really hard for fights, for long periods and diet, something has to give, the hype for the fight is over so we wish Frankie all the best for hiis next fight and sucess.

safeerah wrote:

los2 wrote:al harbi's injuries sounded horrific when he pulled out of last weekend's fight with Gavin.....it is a miracle that he has healed so quickly

Really ?

The end of last week Nasser notice a large lump round the groin area, quite rightly I went to the doctor with him, on examination the doctor found several other lumps coming up, he relayed to us that 99% it was not Cancer, but was sure it was swollen glands, I asked can we go ahead with the fight he said yes, as long as the condition does not deteriate and told Nas to take anti imflams, then he sent us to the Hospital for blood tests, we then continued to train for the fight and sparred with Ryan Aston, Nas sparred well but was not as explosive as in previous spars, after the spar he revealed to me that the swellings had hurt bad when he was hit to the body in sparring and had now noticed they had got bigger and more painful, I said it's best to stop the fight, but he insisted he wanted to still fight, that it was a great opportunity for him, I said the best thing is if we go back to the doctor the next day, the blood tests should be back and we can make a decision then, but the next day Nasser came down with virus as well, the Doctor made an appointment for us, he did not know when the swellings would go down or the virus cease, so I contacted the promoters to ask for the fight to be put back a few weeks[/b][/b], they were unable to do this, as they had no spots available, so the fight was called off, nas has since gone back to the doctor and the hospital and they are now undergoing more tests, I hope to God it is not Glandular fever, because that can stay with you for a long time and can come back again and again, all I know is that Nasser wanted to fight and was prepared to fight through the pain barrier, but his health is more important then boxing so he can have the first rest he has had for a long time, Inshallah I hope he recovers quickly. The Doctor has sent a report to the promoters. I have sympathy for Frankie Gavin as well, because having your opponenent pull out for a big fight is heart breaking, as we have experienced many times before, but when boxers train really hard for fights, for long periods and diet, something has to give, the hype for the fight is over so we wish Frankie all the best for hiis next fight and sucess.

I've seen the other thread on Nasser and before this gets into another long boring thread full of sniping.. from both sides!!.. can i just put a few facts in place.

I got a call on the Wednesday of the week prior to fight week of the Gavin contest to let me know Nasser had an illness. The problem was swollen glands, in the top of his leg/ groin area etc.

It was serious enough to be sent for tests on his white cells etc but thankfully it was just a virus.

I informed Dean Powell as soon as i got that call and did state to him there and then that he would be ok to box in a couple weeks time, BUT that of course i didn't expect them to stall Frankie's career just to fight Nasser. The opportunity for that fight was gone. Simple.

My job therefore is to find something else and so this is what i did and a few days later i managed to make the WBC International Title fight.

This is the same title we got Ryan Rhodes when he fought Vuma and it comes with a great ranking in the WBC.

Nasser jumped at the opportunity, he wants the fight and its the quickest route for him to get into fights that he and his team have always said they want. Therefore i fully expect the fight to take place.

If Nasser goes to Italy and brings home the title, then hopefully he gets the credit he would deserve.

Safeerah, sometimes it's better to say nothing and just go about business than to bite back at doubters etc before you've had the chance to prove anyone wrong or right.
When you shout from the rooftops in the middle of the night you're going to get people telling you to shut up whether you like it or not.

Too many people on here fall out over opinions, we're all entitled to them whether we agree or not and to be fair, in Nasser's case, no one yet knows who is right as he hasn't passed any great tests yet, but he hasn't failed any either so he's still a young kid thats unknown and untested.
This is crunch time for the kid. He doesn't need any more pressure put on him than he already has.

I've seen Nasser in the gym sparring and he certainly has tools, so he may not be the biggest puncher but he's young and improving and has plenty of talent so if he gets on a roll he could well develop into a very good fighter.
He impressed me in the fact that he didn't run against Ball last time out and whether or not he hurt Ball, he hit hard enough and had enough strength for Ball to be concerned about getting hit. The fight did nothing to answer any questions about him but this one certainly will.

Whatever your opinions on Safeerah, don't hate on the kid yet as he's actually not saying too much publicly so shouldn't be judged too harshly.

I'll probably get slated for posting this but thats everyones right.

d wrote:I've seen the other thread on Nasser and before this gets into another long boring thread full of sniping.. from both sides!!.. can i just put a few facts in place.

I got a call on the Wednesday of the week prior to fight week of the Gavin contest to let me know Nasser had an illness. The problem was swollen glands, in the top of his leg/ groin area etc.

It was serious enough to be sent for tests on his white cells etc but thankfully it was just a virus.

I informed Dean Powell as soon as i got that call and did state to him there and then that he would be ok to box in a couple weeks time, BUT that of course i didn't expect them to stall Frankie's career just to fight Nasser. The opportunity for that fight was gone. Simple.

My job therefore is to find something else and so this is what i did and a few days later i managed to make the WBC International Title fight.

This is the same title we got Ryan Rhodes when he fought Vuma and it comes with a great ranking in the WBC.

Nasser jumped at the opportunity, he wants the fight and its the quickest route for him to get into fights that he and his team have always said they want. Therefore i fully expect the fight to take place.

If Nasser goes to Italy and brings home the title, then hopefully he gets the credit he would deserve.

Safeerah, sometimes it's better to say nothing and just go about business than to bite back at doubters etc before you've had the chance to prove anyone wrong or right.
When you shout from the rooftops in the middle of the night you're going to get people telling you to shut up whether you like it or not.

Too many people on here fall out over opinions, we're all entitled to them whether we agree or not and to be fair, in Nasser's case, no one yet knows who is right as he hasn't passed any great tests yet, but he hasn't failed any either so he's still a young kid thats unknown and untested.
This is crunch time for the kid. He doesn't need any more pressure put on him than he already has.

I've seen Nasser in the gym sparring and he certainly has tools, so he may not be the biggest puncher but he's young and improving and has plenty of talent so if he gets on a roll he could well develop into a very good fighter.
He impressed me in the fact that he didn't run against Ball last time out and whether or not he hurt Ball, he hit hard enough and had enough strength for Ball to be concerned about getting hit. The fight did nothing to answer any questions about him but this one certainly will.

Whatever your opinions on Safeerah, don't hate on the kid yet as he's actually not saying too much publicly so shouldn't be judged too harshly.

I'll probably get slated for posting this but thats everyones right.

You wont get slated by me thats for sure as its pretty much exactly my view

Slated? No mate, far from it (I'm not entirely sure where this belief of Nasser being targeted come from?)

Personally I think you have got the tone and content of that post bang on

Good luck to you and Nasser.

I think Dave has summed it up perfectly. As with the Gavin fight, props go to Nas and Safeerah for taking this fight especially with it being away from home. I wish you both luck for it.

d wrote:I'll probably get slated for posting this but thats everyones right.

Not from me mate that was a cracking post

My opinion (for what it's worth)

1. Nasser seems a decent kid (it's not him making all the bizarre boasts doing the rounds)
2. He's charismatic, fast, fit and has a good variety of shots (touch predictable though, he ends every combo with a left hook/slap to the body)
3. He seriously lacks power and tends to slap with a partly closed fist.
4. His opposition has been fairly weak thus far (IF he does take this fight we'll learn more about his ability)
5. His Father/Trainer is a complete p*nis who has ensured that Nasser is possibly the most hated fighter in the UK (after Paul Smith) He needs to keep off the forums and stick to training his son. (I personally believe Nasser would be better with another trainer but I can't see that happening)

I know await the inevitable tirade from Saffy as I had the temerity to utter some minor criticisms of his progeny 10, 9, 8, 7, 6 etc etc etc

safeerah wrote:

Adamj1987 wrote:who wins this?

i've only seen 1 nasser fight and none of emanueles so i'm abit clueless on this 1

I hope your reasons for putting this up are honourable Adam.

Della Rosa is the current WBC International Champion and ranked no 11 in the WBC world rankings, his only defeat being to Sebastian Zbik ( who just fought for the world title against Felix Storm ) up at the higher weight of middle and Della Rosa only lost in a split decision in Germany, he is a good body puncher, very strong and very fit, Nas will be fighting in Della Rosa home town of Rome, Italy on the 16th of June for the WBC International Title, sancioned by the WBC ( I guess our tinpot, little, made up WBC belt stood us in good stead then ). Big risk fighting in the lions den against a very strong, experienced fighter, but as I said before Nas will fight anyone, anytime, any place. With regards to the illness, Nasser's virus as all but gone now and the swollen glands are going down by the day, not a 100% yet, but will be come fight week. We did ask for extra time to get over the illness for Nasser's last fight, but they could not reschedule the fight, understandably.

Yes they are im genuinly intrested. I know you think i have something against your son and i dont. I genuinly wish every boxer well.

I posted this for the resons stated in the OP that i dont know too much and wanted to get better opinions than i can form

Palimpsest wrote:

d wrote:I'll probably get slated for posting this but thats everyones right.

Not from me mate that was a cracking post

My opinion (for what it's worth)

1. Nasser seems a decent kid (it's not him making all the bizarre boasts doing the rounds)
2. He's charismatic, fast, fit and has a good variety of shots (touch predictable though, he ends every combo with a left hook/slap to the body)
3. He seriously lacks power and tends to slap with a partly closed fist.
4. His opposition has been fairly weak thus far (IF he does take this fight we'll learn more about his ability)
5. His Father/Trainer is a complete p*nis who has ensured that Nasser is possibly the most hated fighter in the UK (after Paul Smith) He needs to keep off the forums and stick to training his son. (I personally believe Nasser would be better with another trainer but I can't see that happening)

I know await the inevitable tirade from Saffy as I had the temerity to utter some minor criticisms of his progeny 10, 9, 8, 7, 6 etc etc etc

I notice how you compliment the last post, then ignore it and carry on your tirade, your the problem newbie

safeerah wrote:

Palimpsest wrote:

d wrote:I'll probably get slated for posting this but thats everyones right.

Not from me mate that was a cracking post

My opinion (for what it's worth)

1. Nasser seems a decent kid (it's not him making all the bizarre boasts doing the rounds)
2. He's charismatic, fast, fit and has a good variety of shots (touch predictable though, he ends every combo with a left hook/slap to the body)
3. He seriously lacks power and tends to slap with a partly closed fist.
4. His opposition has been fairly weak thus far (IF he does take this fight we'll learn more about his ability)
5. His Father/Trainer is a complete p*nis who has ensured that Nasser is possibly the most hated fighter in the UK (after Paul Smith) He needs to keep off the forums and stick to training his son. (I personally believe Nasser would be better with another trainer but I can't see that happening)

I know await the inevitable tirade from Saffy as I had the temerity to utter some minor criticisms of his progeny 10, 9, 8, 7, 6 etc etc etc

I notice how you compliment the last post, then ignore it and carry on your tirade, your the problem newbie

So you consider my post a 'tirade' I do worry for you Saffy, it must be a lonely place you inhabit.

Once again ..... YOU'RE

Palimpsest wrote:

d wrote:I'll probably get slated for posting this but thats everyones right.

Not from me mate that was a cracking post

My opinion (for what it's worth)

1. Nasser seems a decent kid (it's not him making all the bizarre boasts doing the rounds)
2. He's charismatic, fast, fit and has a good variety of shots (touch predictable though, he ends every combo with a left hook/slap to the body)
3. He seriously lacks power and tends to slap with a partly closed fist.
4. His opposition has been fairly weak thus far (IF he does take this fight we'll learn more about his ability)
5. His Father/Trainer is a complete p*nis who has ensured that Nasser is possibly the most hated fighter in the UK (after Paul Smith) He needs to keep off the forums and stick to training his son. (I personally believe Nasser would be better with another trainer but I can't see that happening)

I know await the inevitable tirade from Saffy as I had the temerity to utter some minor criticisms of his progeny 10, 9, 8, 7, 6 etc etc etc

Agree with this post 100%

d wrote: When you shout from the rooftops in the middle of the night you're going to get people telling you to shut up whether you like it or not.

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quality, good post dave.

Arniesgym wrote:

Palimpsest wrote:

d wrote:I'll probably get slated for posting this but thats everyones right.

Not from me mate that was a cracking post

My opinion (for what it's worth)

1. Nasser seems a decent kid (it's not him making all the bizarre boasts doing the rounds)
2. He's charismatic, fast, fit and has a good variety of shots (touch predictable though, he ends every combo with a left hook/slap to the body)
3. He seriously lacks power and tends to slap with a partly closed fist.
4. His opposition has been fairly weak thus far (IF he does take this fight we'll learn more about his ability)
5. His Father/Trainer is a complete p*nis who has ensured that Nasser is possibly the most hated fighter in the UK (after Paul Smith) He needs to keep off the forums and stick to training his son. (I personally believe Nasser would be better with another trainer but I can't see that happening)

I know await the inevitable tirade from Saffy as I had the temerity to utter some minor criticisms of his progeny 10, 9, 8, 7, 6 etc etc etc

Agree with this post 100%

Ta