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Froch/Bute Peaks at 668,000
Posted: 28 May 2012, 10:48
by smoggy7188
Re: Home cooking to blame for Lucian Bute's defeat to Carl Froch
Posted: 28 May 2012, 11:15
by smoggy7188
Decent article just a very misleading title.
Re: Home cooking to blame for Lucian Bute's defeat to Carl Froch
Posted: 28 May 2012, 11:17
by Khaosai-Galaxy
The writer didnt even see the fight.
Re: Home cooking to blame for Lucian Bute's defeat to Carl Froch
Posted: 28 May 2012, 11:22
by Neri
When I read the headline I got so angry my first thought was to email the writer with a profanity laced dressing down.
Good job I read on! :P
Re: Froch/Bute Peaks at 668,000
Posted: 28 May 2012, 12:28
by jizzle
King Geedorah wrote:Carl Froch for BBC SPOTY if he beats Kessler or someone of that ilk.
Mo Farah by 10,000 metres if he wins an Olympic Gold!
Re: Froch/Bute Peaks at 668,000
Posted: 28 May 2012, 12:34
by smoggy7188
Mo Farah or Dai Greene are a definite if they win gold medals at the olympics for SPOTY.
Re: Froch/Bute Peaks at 668,000
Posted: 28 May 2012, 12:46
by jizzle
King Geedorah wrote:jizzle wrote:King Geedorah wrote:Carl Froch for BBC SPOTY if he beats Kessler or someone of that ilk.
Mo Farah by 10,000 metres if he wins an Olympic Gold!
I don't know the guy, mate. I'd prefer a pro sportsman to win it. To be honest I don't watch the show, or much on the beeb in general, so am probably not in a good position to offer an opinion, but that's never stopped me before.
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Re: Froch/Bute Peaks at 668,000
Posted: 28 May 2012, 13:02
by jessi
It's 100% an olymipian this year, and most certainly a track and field athlete or possibly a diver, rower or cyclist, boxing boys have no chance, gold or not !
Re: Froch/Bute Peaks at 668,000
Posted: 28 May 2012, 13:20
by Adamj1987
i think it will be jessica ennis if she wins gold
Re: Home cooking to blame for Lucian Bute's defeat to Carl Froch
Posted: 28 May 2012, 15:18
by damianhucker1
having seen the comments on the thrread i thought it was going to say Bute had food poisoning or something
Re: Froch/Bute Peaks at 668,000
Posted: 28 May 2012, 15:26
by jimcook
just wish they would give it to someone with a personality for a change
Re: Froch/Bute Peaks at 668,000
Posted: 28 May 2012, 15:31
by smoggy7188
Ryan Giggs only got a personality after he had won it, super injunction anyone.
Re: Froch/Bute Peaks at 668,000
Posted: 28 May 2012, 15:37
by jamesmcdonnell
That's good figures. Anyone who hadn't seen Carl before will deffo want to see him again after that fight. Hell, even Bute's supporters would want to watch him - I think the last fights of Carl's career could be big money spinners.
I wonder if he will try and cash out and move up to 175, I don't know that he can beat Ward, he's just too slippery, but Kessler at 175, well, I think maybe Froch has improved enough to win that, he started a bit too slow against Mikkel last time out. Carl has always had a tendency to come out of the blocks slow, but on the rare ocassions he's come out throwing punches in bunches, he has looked great, had he allowed Bute time to get into the fight, who knows what might have happened.
Froch v Kessler at 175 - now that's a highly marketable fight - he may be handing the Dane a significant advantage doing so however, Kessler always looked big at the weight. With the extra strength from not making 168, he might be too strong for Froch, quick start or not, but it's a great fight nontheless, would he be able to tempt Kessler to a catchweight? I'm not so sure. Don't think Froch has the bargaining power to do so, but it would be a masterstroke if his management pulled that one off.
Re: Froch/Bute Peaks at 668,000
Posted: 29 May 2012, 03:47
by whiskey
Kessler was only 169lb for his light-heavy debut.
Re: Froch/Bute Peaks at 668,000
Posted: 29 May 2012, 04:13
by johnswan1
The US fans all seem to be very big on Froch also. It will be interesting to hear whether Epix were happy with the numbers they did and if it will entice Showtime or HBO into picking up on Froch's next fight. It is quite incredible that both passed this one over, especially considering the coverage both men have already received from them.
Re: Froch/Bute Peaks at 668,000
Posted: 30 May 2012, 09:55
by Autobarn
jamesmcdonnell wrote:That's good figures. Anyone who hadn't seen Carl before will deffo want to see him again after that fight. Hell, even Bute's supporters would want to watch him - I think the last fights of Carl's career could be big money spinners.
I wonder if he will try and cash out and move up to 175, I don't know that he can beat Ward, he's just too slippery, but Kessler at 175, well, I think maybe Froch has improved enough to win that, he started a bit too slow against Mikkel last time out. Carl has always had a tendency to come out of the blocks slow, but on the rare ocassions he's come out throwing punches in bunches, he has looked great, had he allowed Bute time to get into the fight, who knows what might have happened.
Froch v Kessler at 175 - now that's a highly marketable fight - he may be handing the Dane a significant advantage doing so however, Kessler always looked big at the weight. With the extra strength from not making 168, he might be too strong for Froch, quick start or not, but it's a great fight nontheless, would he be able to tempt Kessler to a catchweight? I'm not so sure. Don't think Froch has the bargaining power to do so, but it would be a masterstroke if his management pulled that one off.
why not bring kessler down to 168 - if kessler is both tight at the weight AND away from home, that is 2 great advantages for froch just there. and of course it'll be for a world title at 168. only drawback is that the IBF will have froch fighting some dull mandatories which could get in the way of big fights...after all froch has done, he deserves some easier fights mixed in with the big ones.
Re: Froch/Bute Peaks at 668,000
Posted: 30 May 2012, 10:14
by johnswan1
jamesmcdonnell wrote:would he be able to tempt Kessler to a catchweight? I'm not so sure. Don't think Froch has the bargaining power to do so
Why doesn't he have the bargaining power to do so? Froch has the IBF title, Kessler doesn't have any title (I'm not including the WBC Silver title as a genuine title). I'd be surprised if Kessler didn't want to do the fight at 168 lbs (assuming he can still make the weight). Does anybody know if he is definitely staying at 175 lbs or not? I thought he only moved up because he's still coming back from a lay off and doesn't want to go too hard on his body unless it's for a big fight. I feel Carl would definitely be giving up a big advantage in size and strength if he agreed for it to take place at 175 lbs but if he lost he'd still be able to come back down and defend his IBF title.
Re: Froch/Bute Peaks at 668,000
Posted: 30 May 2012, 10:16
by smoggy7188
Froch/Kessler for IBF super middleweight title in September it looks like at either City Ground or Trent Fm Arena again.
Re: Froch/Bute Peaks at 668,000
Posted: 30 May 2012, 10:26
by johnswan1
Also, Kessler weighed in at 169.5 lbs for the Green fight.
Re: Froch/Bute Peaks at 668,000
Posted: 01 Jun 2012, 09:46
by loaded_gloves
Those figures are abysmal. Terrible by TV industry standards.
Re: Froch/Bute Peaks at 668,000
Posted: 01 Jun 2012, 10:05
by jamesmcdonnell
How are those figures abysmal, please explain.
I wasn't aware of the Kessler situation, tbh, i've not been following the sport that closely of late, due to getting a bit narked with boxing and the lack of fights I actually want to see. I assumed he had moved up as he was struggling to make weight.
Re: Froch/Bute Peaks at 668,000
Posted: 01 Jun 2012, 10:09
by states
loaded_gloves wrote:Those figures are abysmal. Terrible by TV industry standards.
How so? It's better than anything other than Premier League and Champions League football.
Re: Froch/Bute Peaks at 668,000
Posted: 01 Jun 2012, 10:37
by loaded_gloves
If you had a TV show that pulled in those figures it would be deemed a waste of money.
And by boxing standards, we all remember routine fights from the likes of Audley and Danny Williams and Amir Khan pulling in millions on terrestrial.
Re: Froch/Bute Peaks at 668,000
Posted: 01 Jun 2012, 11:04
by antcull
I wonder if it would have done even better if the first bell was around 2 hours earlier...I can't recall exactly what time it started but it was well after midnight. Superb figures though, credit to all that made it happen.
Re: Froch/Bute Peaks at 668,000
Posted: 01 Jun 2012, 11:04
by antcull
I wonder if it would have done even better if the first bell was around 2 hours earlier...I can't recall exactly what time it started but it was well after midnight. Superb figures though, credit to all that made it happen.