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mmmm'k, just came across my mind as a thread-topic last night. who are the greatest boxer-punchers ever to lace 'em up, then?

i mean, after Tommy Hearns who's my shoe-in at 1.

Arguello (some might call him pure slugger, personally i think his skills were better than that...sheesh, it's not his fault he had feet that looked like they were encased in concrete block, but, but, but, you do realise you don't have to have cute feet to be considered a skillful boxer, right? some don't, CF people talking about Zab judah's 'skills'. but i digress..)

umm and now i've got a mental block. last night's list was much better after a couple of beers. i'll go away and try that.

who are your candidates, anyway?

Ezzard Charles at 175?

ummm. shit. over to you.

I dont know what a, "shoe-in," is, but Louis is number one with a bullet.

....louis. charles, sugar ray robinson, archie moore.......the first ones that come to mind...with louis, of course,the most obvious.....

... is Bob Fitzsimmons.

Wilfredo Gomez was a hell of a boxer-puncher.

Also Edwin "Chapo" Rosario and Felix "Tito" Trinidad

Benny Leonard also should get a look.

Goodnight, Irene wrote:I dont know what a, "shoe-in," is, but Louis is number one with a bullet.

It seems like SRR should be up there as well.

Seems that Srr should be # 1 or close to it

scallum wrote:Seems that Srr should be # 1 or close to it

And you would get no argument from me.

Hearns is the obvious one. McCallum. Arguello, although his footwork made him look like his boots were laced together at times, his punch placement and choice of shots was fantastic. DLH or Norris? Wlad in his current guise is pretty effective.

Olivares too.

.....yeah...i agree about srr.....that's why i named him in my first post.....

orbtastic wrote:Olivares too.

Greatest Mexican ever. Chavez is over-rated.

Carlos Zarate, Salvador Sanchez, Erik morales, Hagler, Duran, and ray Leonard spring to mind.

DaveBoyMorrison wrote:Carlos Zarate, Salvador Sanchez, Erik morales, Hagler, Duran, and ray Leonard spring to mind.

I don't consider Sanchez, Morales, or Leonard to be punchers. Sure they were great boxers, but punchers?

I don't consider Zarate a great boxer and neither Rosario nor Trinidad. They punch with authority but they were not by any means great boxers.

For me Joe Louis, SRR, Hagler, Wilfredo Gomez, and Hearns for me.

BarryWashington wrote:

Borinken25 wrote:

DaveBoyMorrison wrote:Carlos Zarate, Salvador Sanchez, Erik morales, Hagler, Duran, and ray Leonard spring to mind.

I don't consider Sanchez, Morales, or Leonard to be punchers. Sure they were great boxers, but punchers?

Eh.

Not sure if we are talking about the same here. I meant Sugar Ray Leonard not Benny Leonard. Now if you consider Leonard "Sugar" to be a puncher I would like to know what is your criteria for a puncher. Because for me Leonard was a decent puncher but by no means a great puncher. Yes he punch with accuracy and great timing but not with enough authority if you ask me. Nowhere close to the likes of Louis, Hagler, Duran (at lightweight), or Gomez.

Among the lighter weights Panama Al Brown and Jimmy Wilde spring to mind.

Borinken25 wrote:

Borinken25 wrote:

DaveBoyMorrison wrote:Carlos Zarate, Salvador Sanchez, Erik morales, Hagler, Duran, and ray Leonard spring to mind.

I don't consider Sanchez, Morales, or Leonard to be punchers. Sure they were great boxers, but punchers?

Eh.

Not sure if we are talking about the same here. I meant Sugar Ray Leonard not Benny Leonard. Now if you consider Leonard "Sugar" to be a puncher I would like to know what is your criteria for a puncher. Because for me Leonard was a decent puncher but by no means a great puncher. Yes he punch with accuracy and great timing but not with enough authority if you ask me. Nowhere close to the likes of Louis, Hagler, Duran (at lightweight), or Gomez.[/quote]

Leonard could turn a fight around with his punching power . . .that to me signifies enough power to call someone a 'boxer-puncher.'

Leonard's power gets over-rated.

Joe Louis and Sugar Ray Robinson immediately springs to mind upon reading the topic title. And probably Jack Johnson.