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Hi all,

aftre the Klitschko fight I swore I wouldn't pay anymore money to watch Haye fight: I'd thrown in a 5-er to see him fight Audley but only bought it as two mates each paid a 5-er to make up the costs..... for Klitschko I got sucked-in last minute and bought it (having said all along I wouldn't because "Kltischko on points, boring fight").

I will watch it if costs me nothing, but I just refuse to spend money on Haye anymore (although I don't want to miss a wild shoot-out, live!).

Anyone else taking a tough-line stance or is the hype doing its job?


"T.M.K"

Hi all,

Haye-Chisora has publicly been for both the WBA and WBO Inter-baubles for quite a while now, yet we just saw Tyson Fury win the WBO intercontinental title at the weekend.

Anyone know what's occuring?


cheers,


Col/"T.M.K"

Hang about: there's now not only the (long-standing) WBO Intercontinental title.... which Fury won.

But

There's a WBO InterNATIONAL title!



That explains that then




"T.M.K"

Two different WBO belts.

orbtastic wrote:Two different WBO belts.

Neither of them particularly neccessary.

I'm not going to pay to watch it. I'd watch it if it was free.

For me, this is another Haye vs Audley fight in that it's clearly obvious Haye is going to win.

They're necessary to make it a 12 rounder, they're necessary in order to sell the fighters to the wider audience.

Blame SKY, they started it about 12 years ago.

ILikeBeer wrote:t it's clearly obvious Haye is going to win.

Based on what? It certainly isn't the way he struggled against Valuev & Klitschko. Or are you basing it on a overweight Chisora losing to the improving Tyson Fury or maybe the 3 mismatches we had to watch Haye in against Harrison, Barrett and Ruiz.

This certainly isn't as clear cut as many think.

To be honest I'm disgusted by all of you. How quickly you all forgot Valuev, Harrison and Klitschko. The big talk. The lack of delivery.

Haye is a salesman. He'll land a few bombs, be alarmed at Chisora eating them up and maintaining a pace, and he'll meekly tire out. And then he'll reveal that he had sore nipple, and some split ends in his corn rows that ultimately weakened him and cost him the fight. But he'll be back, and THIS TIME IT WILL BE WAR.

Hagler2002 wrote:

ILikeBeer wrote:t it's clearly obvious Haye is going to win.

Based on what? It certainly isn't the way he struggled against Valuev & Klitschko. Or are you basing it on a overweight Chisora losing to the improving Tyson Fury or maybe the 3 mismatches we had to watch Haye in against Harrison, Barrett and Ruiz.

This certainly isn't as clear cut as many think.

I thought you might have had your wheelbarrow out at 2/5. I would make Haye at least 1/4.

mickey1975 wrote:

Hagler2002 wrote:

ILikeBeer wrote:t it's clearly obvious Haye is going to win.

Based on what? It certainly isn't the way he struggled against Valuev & Klitschko. Or are you basing it on a overweight Chisora losing to the improving Tyson Fury or maybe the 3 mismatches we had to watch Haye in against Harrison, Barrett and Ruiz.

This certainly isn't as clear cut as many think.

I thought you might have had your wheelbarrow out at 2/5. I would make Haye at least 1/4.

I'm with you on this, I took the early 2/1 Haye by ko at any stage for a monkey, so I guess I have either been suckered in or read the fight right, won't know until Saturday.

I can see the argument for it not being clear cut, I just believe he has operated better at different levels ,I am not convinced Helenius was ever that good and Vitali is slowing dramatically and Chisora still lost very clearly.

Internatioanl AND Intercontinental titles? Does anyone have a clue as to what is the difference between them?
Or maybe I should email the WBO and ask them direct, would love to hear their answer.

I'll be watching purely to see him get chinned.

Used to be such a fan, but when he got outclassed so badly (inside and outside of the ring) against Wlad, I lost all respect for him (and gained a lot for Wladimir)

I'm really lost on this one. I genuinely don't know what to bet on. Too many outside factors. We could end up with Christ knows refffing for one. The fact FW is heavily involved with the Governing and sanctioning bodies doesn't bode well either. It could be one crazy night. There is value in chisora to win by K.O @ 7/1 but I expect Haye to eek out a points win but I'm not confident enough to bet big on any outcome. I'll keep to my strategy of betting small with the value and save for the occasional gifts that the bookies throw our way and bet huge.

Anyhoo, Haye has a lot to prove in my opinion in the Heavies. This could be just what he needs to gain back some of the respect he seems to have lost recently. I think it could be a cracking tear up.

anyone know which countries this fight is being shown 'live' in, then i can find the channel through the net. its all legal.

rhino222 wrote:anyone know which countries this fight is being shown 'live' in, then i can find the channel through the net. its all legal.

Ive booked the fight, caved in due to family pressure.

rhino..... seeing as you live near boston are you a polish guy or lithuanian your language seems like it. Also if you are looking to watch online search google you will find lots of legal streaming action.

milpool wrote:Internatioanl AND Intercontinental titles? Does anyone have a clue as to what is the difference between them?
Or maybe I should email the WBO and ask them direct, would love to hear their answer.

Drop Dennis an email

http://www.wbo-europe.com/executive-members/

He also used to work for The sports network IIRC.

I have to confess to being a big fan of Haye. I think it will be an entertaining match. I wonder if he will try and obliterate Chisora like Foreman did to Frazier.

big lennox wrote:I have to confess to being a big fan of Haye. I think it will be an entertaining match. I wonder if he will try and obliterate Chisora like Foreman did to Frazier.

I don't think Big George had to try, to be honest, but Haye will.

no im watching just to see a scrap. i honestly dont care who wins. i'd ratehr haye as he is the lesser of 2 evils really.

i'll say Haye WKO 2

Despite the absolute horseshit he served up against Klit & Fraudley, I'm watching it. Unlike Wlad, Chisora will press all night, and Haye's only option will be to try and keep him off with his own heavy leather. A pretty decent fight is going to ensue, whoever comes out on top.

loaded_gloves wrote:To be honest I'm disgusted by all of you. How quickly you all forgot Valuev, Harrison and Klitschko. The big talk. The lack of delivery.

Haye is a salesman. He'll land a few bombs, be alarmed at Chisora eating them up and maintaining a pace, and he'll meekly tire out. And then he'll reveal that he had sore nipple, and some split ends in his corn rows that ultimately weakened him and cost him the fight. But he'll be back, and THIS TIME IT WILL BE WAR.

He knocked out Harrison in 3 and did he what he said he was going to do to Harrsion all along.
Eddie Hearn and Sky TV bigged up Harrison's chances

loaded_gloves wrote:To be honest I'm disgusted by all of you. How quickly you all forgot Valuev, Harrison and Klitschko. The big talk. The lack of delivery.

Haye is a salesman. He'll land a few bombs, be alarmed at Chisora eating them up and maintaining a pace, and he'll meekly tire out. And then he'll reveal that he had sore nipple, and some split ends in his corn rows that ultimately weakened him and cost him the fight. But he'll be back, and THIS TIME IT WILL BE WAR.

100% agree. He (David Haye) is a salesman. Come the fight, never backs it up.

Eddy wrote:

loaded_gloves wrote:To be honest I'm disgusted by all of you. How quickly you all forgot Valuev, Harrison and Klitschko. The big talk. The lack of delivery.

Haye is a salesman. He'll land a few bombs, be alarmed at Chisora eating them up and maintaining a pace, and he'll meekly tire out. And then he'll reveal that he had sore nipple, and some split ends in his corn rows that ultimately weakened him and cost him the fight. But he'll be back, and THIS TIME IT WILL BE WAR.

100% agree. He (David Haye) is a salesman. Come the fight, never backs it up.

I am betting he does back it up this time and takes Chisora apart inside 6 rounds. Different league to chisora.
Haye did not get knocked out against wlad either he just didnt go in for the kill until the last round.
Klits got a hitlist of ko's and Haye is not on there so he must have something besides being a salesman?

People complain about being short changed by haye but he said he would knock audley out in 3, he just didnt deliver on the wlad fight, the valuev fight wasnt great to watch but the tactics were working and he won. All bar one of hayes other fights have been great to watch even his loss to thompson. Barrett was great fun so was ruiz.