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Re: Is David Haye the number one contender?

Posted: 14 Jul 2012, 19:05
by Horse
Vitali is still the number two in the division.

I think Haye is back to his old third place position now.

Re: Is David Haye the number one contender?

Posted: 14 Jul 2012, 19:12
by jameswilson
It's a tough one. Based purely off his inactivity I'll go with no. However I think he has a good chance against everyone.

Re: Is David Haye the number one contender?

Posted: 14 Jul 2012, 19:17
by funso banjo baby
Haye v

pulev
povetkin
dimitrenko
chambers
jennings
mitchel
lawrence
arreola

infinately more preferable than a klit stinkathon

Re: Is David Haye the number one contender?

Posted: 14 Jul 2012, 19:21
by jameswilson
funso banjo baby wrote:Haye v

pulev
povetkin
dimitrenko
chambers
jennings
mitchel
lawrence
arreola

infinately more preferable than a klit stinkathon

Unfortunately not for David it isn't.

Re: Is David Haye the number one contender?

Posted: 14 Jul 2012, 19:28
by Horse
Haye should go after Povetkin and his WBA title, if he can't get a Klitschko fight.

Haye vs Fury or Price for the WBA title could make him some good money. After a couple of big wins for Haye, a fight against Vitali or a Wladimir rematch would be difficult for them to avoid.

Re: Is David Haye the number one contender?

Posted: 14 Jul 2012, 19:47
by milpool
After the Klitchskos David is the next best heavyweight at this particular time. I defy anyone to name another heavyweight who is above David Haye right now.

Re: Is David Haye the number one contender?

Posted: 14 Jul 2012, 19:59
by freddydoesdallas
milpool wrote:After the Klitchskos David is the next best heavyweight at this particular time. I defy anyone to name another heavyweight who is above David Haye right now.
That's a 20 page thread right there with numerous references to 'fanboys' and 'haters'

Re: Is David Haye the number one contender?

Posted: 14 Jul 2012, 20:30
by bfchunk
Adamek or Povetkin if no Klitchsko available

Re: Is David Haye the number one contender?

Posted: 14 Jul 2012, 20:48
by IRLangmaid25
Judging by his body of work he is the best British heavyweight at the moment on the European and World stage know. If he has genuine aspirations of getting another crack at the Brothers K or be seen as a relevant force in the Post Brothers K era depending on how long they both choose to remain in the sport. David Haye needs to consider fighting some of the following

Kubrat Pulev
Alexander Dimitrenko
Robert Helenius
Chris Arreola
Alexander Povetkin
Seth Mitchell

Otherwise he will be considered a talk merchant and an irrelevance.

Re: Is David Haye the number one contender?

Posted: 14 Jul 2012, 20:51
by Horse
bfchunk wrote:Adamek or Povetkin if no Klitchsko available
Exactly.

There is no need for Haye to retire just because he can't get an immediate Klitschko fight. What a waste of talent that would be.

Re: Is David Haye the number one contender?

Posted: 14 Jul 2012, 20:58
by iamasadlittleboy
...didn't he just beat the #4 British Heavyweight?....

Re: Is David Haye the number one contender?

Posted: 14 Jul 2012, 20:59
by Hagler2002
Would he be as negative again against one of the Klitschkos? Or is he just not big enough to compete against them?

Chisora showed the blueprint on how to beat Vitali, now its up too a higher skilled Haye to implement it.

Re: Is David Haye the number one contender?

Posted: 14 Jul 2012, 21:04
by Horse
iamasadlittleboy wrote:...didn't he just beat the #4 British Heavyweight?....
Price does not deserve to be ranked above Chisora.

Re: Is David Haye the number one contender?

Posted: 14 Jul 2012, 21:28
by iamasadlittleboy
Horse wrote:
iamasadlittleboy wrote:...didn't he just beat the #4 British Heavyweight?....
Price does not deserve to be ranked above Chisora.
Both man have the same "best win" so your basing it on the fact that Chisora has mixed with, and lost to, better company?

Re: Is David Haye the number one contender?

Posted: 14 Jul 2012, 21:31
by Horse
iamasadlittleboy wrote:Both man have the same "best win" so your basing it on the fact that Chisora has mixed with, and lost to, better company?
Yes. Although most people think that Chisora beat Helenius, so that could well be considered his best win.

Re: Is David Haye the number one contender?

Posted: 14 Jul 2012, 21:57
by brian13
No, Haye is not the third best HW at the moment in the World. Adamek is ahead of him in my eyes and possibly one or two others.

Re: Is David Haye the number one contender?

Posted: 14 Jul 2012, 22:10
by Horse
Is Haye really as eager to retire as has been made out?

I hope all of the Haye retirement talk is just meant to put pressure on the klitschkos to fight him, rather than it being real.

Re: Is David Haye the number one contender?

Posted: 14 Jul 2012, 22:23
by NazNaci1
Haye is still No3 in the World, behind Wlad and Vitali. I have seem a lot of these HW prospects, like most of us and, to be frank, none are all that impresseive. Fury? No chance. Mitchell? Ditto. Adamek? Nope. Povetkin? Definitely not and so on.

I doubt Haye beats either Wlad or Vitali but he does beat all the others.

Re: Is David Haye the number one contender?

Posted: 14 Jul 2012, 22:28
by Crease
Number One Contender?

I would certainly think so. Apaert from the Champions (The Klitchsko Borthers & Povetkin) I can't see who would be ahead of him at thid partiular time.

Haye's record is second only to the Klitchskos in terms of achievements and accomplishments.
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Re: Is David Haye the number one contender?

Posted: 14 Jul 2012, 22:30
by Crease
Horse wrote:Haye should go after Povetkin and his WBA title, if he can't get a Klitschko fight
Agreed.

Bernt Boente mentioned Haye vs Chisora with the winner to fight Vitali for the WBC Title. But if the Haye vs Vitlai fight can't happen, then I would definitely say that aye vs Povetkin for Haye's old title would be desirable.

:box:

Re: Is David Haye the number one contender?

Posted: 14 Jul 2012, 22:47
by Horse
Crease wrote:Agreed.

Bernt Boente mentioned Haye vs Chisora with the winner to fight Vitali for the WBC Title. But if the Haye vs Vitlai fight can't happen, then I would definitely say that aye vs Povetkin for Haye's old title would be desirable.

:box:
The crowd were cheering Haye, he seems to still be popular.

A Haye vs Povetkin world title fight could be a big fight and money maker, as well as being very winnable for Haye. If he wins then with the right defences he could make a fortune and be involved in very good fights even without the Klitschkos.