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Tyson Fury: Yay or Nay?

Posted: 16 Jul 2012, 23:14
by andeeholden
Tyson Fury: The man who promised the boxing public that his next fight would be against Wladimir Klitschko after disposing of Del Boy Chisora in 2011. The man who then relinquished his British title simply to avoid the challenge of David Price. The man who fights Vinny "middle aged punchbag" Maddalone and considers it to be impressive.

Is it just me who hasn't been drawn into his farcical career? Is it not just Mick Hennessy protecting the only jewel in his crown?

I agree, great jab, good athleticism for a big guy, but who has he proved it against?

Re: Tyson Fury: Yay or Nay?

Posted: 17 Jul 2012, 09:02
by danconnollyeire
Farsical career? The man's only 23

Re: Tyson Fury: Yay or Nay?

Posted: 17 Jul 2012, 09:13
by whiskey
Yay.

Nice fella, never dull.

Re: Tyson Fury: Yay or Nay?

Posted: 17 Jul 2012, 09:15
by spudder56
G0mez wrote:Yay.

Nice fella, never dull.
Yes a nice guy and good for the game and conducts himself in the proper manner

Re: Tyson Fury: Yay or Nay?

Posted: 17 Jul 2012, 09:40
by JayMc
I think after he relinquished the British and Commonwealth belts to avoid David Price alot of people questioned his heart and credibility but money talks and if he lost that fight it would have been seriously damaging to his world title charge.

He said it was time to move on towards a world title but surely you would wants to prove your credentials against the best in your division domestically ?

Really needs to step up now and fight some decent opponents before he starts to lose even more credibility.

Re: Tyson Fury: Yay or Nay?

Posted: 17 Jul 2012, 10:08
by CiganoBoxer
Resume Fury is ahead Pricey ,his one win over Chisora is better than anything David has done yet ,just remember Fury become the British and commonwealth champion and hes only 23 ,if you dont respect that then your just a hater .
I dont blame Fury for not fighting price ,i mean why should he when the klichkos have been mentioning his name as one of their next opponent choices,so why would Fury risk a fight for the world crown by taking a fight with the likes of David Price ? wouldn't make sense would it . :bag:

Re: Tyson Fury: Yay or Nay?

Posted: 17 Jul 2012, 10:18
by spudder56
The Dark Destroyer wrote:The lad is 23, he's got at least two years before he'll be ready to fight a Klit, if they're even still about by then. What is this obsession with wanting young fighters to challenge for things they aren't ready for yet? He was brought a long very quickly in his early days, and rightfully they've slowed down to let him progress with his ability. He's looking in better shape than he has ever been in and is getting technically better. Relax.
I agree entirely mate

Re: Tyson Fury: Yay or Nay?

Posted: 17 Jul 2012, 10:51
by Counter-puncher
The Dark Destroyer wrote:The lad is 23, he's got at least two years before he'll be ready to fight a Klit, if they're even still about by then. What is this obsession with wanting young fighters to challenge for things they aren't ready for yet? He was brought a long very quickly in his early days, and rightfully they've slowed down to let him progress with his ability. He's looking in better shape than he has ever been in and is getting technically better. Relax.
:TU:

Re: Tyson Fury: Yay or Nay?

Posted: 17 Jul 2012, 11:53
by milpool
I don't think Mick Hennesey does Tyson any favours when he's interviewed after his fights and starts bigging him up to ridiculous proportions. I'm all for selling your fighter but Mick goes way overboard at times.

Re: Tyson Fury: Yay or Nay?

Posted: 17 Jul 2012, 13:27
by jessi
milpool wrote:I don't think Mick Hennesey does Tyson any favours when he's interviewed after his fights and starts bigging him up to ridiculous proportions. I'm all for selling your fighter but Mick goes way overboard at times.
I found the last fight the opposite tbh, i think Mick said we will fight for a world title when we are ready to win it !
I like fury very much but the jury's still out for me :zzz:

Re: Tyson Fury: Yay or Nay?

Posted: 17 Jul 2012, 13:53
by lefty
Fury is talented and will test Price if they fight. People forget that him and Price in reality couldnt fight at the time! Well not at Furys end anyway, the only way the fight could of happened is if Price went over to fight Fury on 5 because if Fury would of agreed to fight Price on sky he would of been in breach of his contract with sky. People need to realise that! They made Price a 100k offer to fight Fury on 5 but Maloney and Price turned it down.

Re: Tyson Fury: Yay or Nay?

Posted: 17 Jul 2012, 13:56
by Andrew
milpool wrote:I don't think Mick Hennesey does Tyson any favours when he's interviewed after his fights and starts bigging him up to ridiculous proportions. I'm all for selling your fighter but Mick goes way overboard at times.


True after the Maddalone fight he compared him to Larry Holmes !!!

Going off what Hennesey says post fight and Fury in interviews I reckon he will fight opponents similar and slightly better than Maddalone throughout the UK and Ireland to build his fanbase until the KBros vacate and then challenge for a World Title which won't be that difficult to arrange. No way will he fight a Klitschko.

I like Furys personality he love him or hate him he is a character and recently has looked pretty good in the ring his conditioning has improved a lot as well.

Re: Tyson Fury: Yay or Nay?

Posted: 17 Jul 2012, 14:15
by funso banjo baby
Fury is ok but nothing special

first decent tall heavy will destroy him

Re: Tyson Fury: Yay or Nay?

Posted: 17 Jul 2012, 15:39
by keithmoonhangover
andeeholden wrote:Tyson Fury: The man who promised the boxing public that his next fight would be against Wladimir Klitschko after disposing of Del Boy Chisora in 2011. The man who then relinquished his British title simply to avoid the challenge of David Price. The man who fights Vinny "middle aged punchbag" Maddalone and considers it to be impressive.

Is it just me who hasn't been drawn into his farcical career? Is it not just Mick Hennessy protecting the only jewel in his crown?

I agree, great jab, good athleticism for a big guy, but who has he proved it against?
I don't remember that and I'm Fury's #1 fan. Do you have a video clip of it?

Re: Tyson Fury: Yay or Nay?

Posted: 17 Jul 2012, 16:49
by HomicideHenry
Fury is only 24 and still has many years ahead of him. Those who knock him and say he is having a farce career are really out of touch with the sport of boxing imho. We aint talking about Joe Mesi or Faruq Saleem here who fought 5-4-0, 0-2-0, 4-3-0, etc type opponents. For being his age, in just two years time he has become a respectable heavyweight and could quite possibly be a champion one day.

Re: Tyson Fury: Yay or Nay?

Posted: 17 Jul 2012, 17:29
by CheckHook
The problem for me is balancing the hype with the reality.... If he and Hennesy came out and were realitic then I wouldn't have a problem. He's 24 and has plenty of learning to do and is miles away from being a legitimate threat to the top 3 or 4 fighters in the division. That isn't how he is being sold at all though. He's the ring ranked #9 fighter, he keeps talking about being able to beat anyone out there and his team keep talking about one or two more fights then we will do this and that, but his opposition and performances don't match the hype. Hennesy said, after the mismatch Maddalone fight, that they were looking at Adamek.... Not only are they mentioning a guy the best part of a foot shorter than him, but Tyson has the brass balls to say he would stop him too easily when the reality is they are unlikely to go anywhere near Adamek anyway as they simply arent ready for him yet. Quit talking bollocks would be my advice to team Fury....

Re: Tyson Fury: Yay or Nay?

Posted: 17 Jul 2012, 18:17
by andeeholden
milpool wrote:I don't think Mick Hennesey does Tyson any favours when he's interviewed after his fights and starts bigging him up to ridiculous proportions. I'm all for selling your fighter but Mick goes way overboard at times.
I agree entirely. I do understand he's 23 etc...But my negative views on Tyson come from his promoter bigging him up to high heaven. Don't promise fights with Klitschkos, don't say you'll take on anyone, and then relinquish when a genuine challenge comes along

Re: Tyson Fury: Yay or Nay?

Posted: 17 Jul 2012, 18:30
by andeeholden
keithmoonhangover wrote:
andeeholden wrote:Tyson Fury: The man who promised the boxing public that his next fight would be against Wladimir Klitschko after disposing of Del Boy Chisora in 2011. The man who then relinquished his British title simply to avoid the challenge of David Price. The man who fights Vinny "middle aged punchbag" Maddalone and considers it to be impressive.

Is it just me who hasn't been drawn into his farcical career? Is it not just Mick Hennessy protecting the only jewel in his crown?

I agree, great jab, good athleticism for a big guy, but who has he proved it against?
I don't remember that and I'm Fury's #1 fan. Do you have a video clip of it?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2011/ju ... NETTXT3487

22nd July 2011, almost a year ago, Tyson Fury says:
"Beyond Chisora we are looking for big fights. We are a weak division. I've had 14 pro fights – 25 years ago I'd still have been fighting eight-rounders. So I'm fighting a big title fight and I'm looking at world title fights. We've got the Klitschkos ruling everything [Vitali is the WBC champion], there's no Americans coming through, we've got nothing. So this is a battle of Britain: who wins goes on to fight for a world title."

Since then he's fought Nicolai Firtha, Neven Pajkic, Martin Rogan, Vinny Maddalone, now the nonsense about Adamek...in other words still no nearer to Klitschko. It's not the fans wrongly being disappointed by Tyson, it's the hype coming from his own camp which constantly deceives the boxing public.

Re: Tyson Fury: Yay or Nay?

Posted: 17 Jul 2012, 18:36
by andeeholden
andeeholden wrote:
keithmoonhangover wrote:
andeeholden wrote:Tyson Fury: The man who promised the boxing public that his next fight would be against Wladimir Klitschko after disposing of Del Boy Chisora in 2011. The man who then relinquished his British title simply to avoid the challenge of David Price. The man who fights Vinny "middle aged punchbag" Maddalone and considers it to be impressive.

Is it just me who hasn't been drawn into his farcical career? Is it not just Mick Hennessy protecting the only jewel in his crown?

I agree, great jab, good athleticism for a big guy, but who has he proved it against?
I don't remember that and I'm Fury's #1 fan. Do you have a video clip of it?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2011/ju ... NETTXT3487

22nd July 2011, almost a year ago, Tyson Fury says:
"Beyond Chisora we are looking for big fights. We are a weak division. I've had 14 pro fights – 25 years ago I'd still have been fighting eight-rounders. So I'm fighting a big title fight and I'm looking at world title fights. We've got the Klitschkos ruling everything [Vitali is the WBC champion], there's no Americans coming through, we've got nothing. So this is a battle of Britain: who wins goes on to fight for a world title."

Since then he's fought Nicolai Firtha, Neven Pajkic, Martin Rogan, Vinny Maddalone, now the nonsense about Adamek...in other words still no nearer to Klitschko. It's not the fans wrongly being disappointed by Tyson, it's the hype coming from his own camp which constantly deceives the boxing public.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2011/no ... chko-title

Take your pick, theres countless evidence of Hennessy and Tyson spouting shit:

"His promoter, Mick Hennessy, read from the same script. "We are talking about some exciting names for Madison Square Garden," he said. "He is a phenomenon, the full package, but he has got to stop getting drawn into a gun fight. In 16 months, he'll be more mature and better conditioned. I honestly believe he can beat [WBA" champion Alexander] Povetkin tomorrow but he is looking beyond that. In 18 months he will beat the Klitschkos."

In Nov 2011 they promised that basically before May 2013 he will have beaten Povetkin, and will have beaten the Klitschkos. Can't really see that happening now, can you?

Re: Tyson Fury: Yay or Nay?

Posted: 17 Jul 2012, 18:48
by Instantiate
No one claimed in those articles that Fury would box for a world title immediatly after beating Chisora or that Fury will have defeated Povetkin by a certain date.

Re: Tyson Fury: Yay or Nay?

Posted: 17 Jul 2012, 18:51
by Horse
andeeholden wrote:"His promoter, Mick Hennessy, read from the same script. "We are talking about some exciting names for Madison Square Garden," he said. "He is a phenomenon, the full package, but he has got to stop getting drawn into a gun fight. In 16 months, he'll be more mature and better conditioned. I honestly believe he can beat [WBA" champion Alexander] Povetkin tomorrow but he is looking beyond that. In 18 months he will beat the Klitschkos."

In Nov 2011 they promised that basically before May 2013 he will have beaten Povetkin, and will have beaten the Klitschkos. Can't really see that happening now, can you?
I believe he meant in 18 months Fury will be ready to fight and beat the Klitschkos, not that in 18 months he will have beaten both of the Klitschkos and Povetkin.

Re: Tyson Fury: Yay or Nay?

Posted: 18 Jul 2012, 03:29
by yiddo14
I like the bloke. Good speaker too when he is not over excited!

Seems to have got himself in shape. Lacks power and is easy to hit. Will be fun following him once he steps up a level after his past two fights. They were pointless. I started watching but actually switched over after about a round.

Re: Tyson Fury: Yay or Nay?

Posted: 18 Jul 2012, 15:14
by keithmoonhangover
andeeholden wrote:http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2011/ju ... NETTXT3487

22nd July 2011, almost a year ago, Tyson Fury says:
"Beyond Chisora we are looking for big fights. We are a weak division. I've had 14 pro fights – 25 years ago I'd still have been fighting eight-rounders. So I'm fighting a big title fight and I'm looking at world title fights. We've got the Klitschkos ruling everything [Vitali is the WBC champion], there's no Americans coming through, we've got nothing. So this is a battle of Britain: who wins goes on to fight for a world title."

Since then he's fought Nicolai Firtha, Neven Pajkic, Martin Rogan, Vinny Maddalone, now the nonsense about Adamek...in other words still no nearer to Klitschko. It's not the fans wrongly being disappointed by Tyson, it's the hype coming from his own camp which constantly deceives the boxing public.
That doesn't say he's fighting Klitschko in his next fight.

Re: Tyson Fury: Yay or Nay?

Posted: 18 Jul 2012, 15:46
by Adamj1987
yay

Re: Tyson Fury: Yay or Nay?

Posted: 18 Jul 2012, 15:52
by Crease
Yay.

He's a young fighter, who has an excellent record and is steadily improving as a boxer... His only problem is that he's not yet ready for a Klitchsko Brother.