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Jerry Quarry V

Posted: 28 Jul 2012, 14:23
by ThatOne
Tim Witherspoon
Mike Tyson
Trevor Berbick
Chris Byrd
Lennox Lewis
Evander Holyfield
Riddick Bowe
Larry Holmes

Re: Jerry Quarry V

Posted: 28 Jul 2012, 14:33
by HomicideHenry
Quarry loses to them all. Am sorry to say. The best chance he would of had would of been against Berbick.

Re: Jerry Quarry V

Posted: 28 Jul 2012, 15:01
by SaadOffTheDeck
He beats Berbick & Byrd.

Witherspoon is 50/50 or a slight edge to Quarry depending on which Spoon shows up.

The rest of them beat him comfortably.

Re: Jerry Quarry V

Posted: 28 Jul 2012, 23:18
by dempseyfire
ThatOne wrote:Tim Witherspoon
Mike Tyson
Trevor Berbick
Chris Byrd
Lennox Lewis
Evander Holyfield
Riddick Bowe
Larry Holmes
Quarry beats Berbick, Bowe, Witherspoon and Byrd.

Re: Jerry Quarry V

Posted: 29 Jul 2012, 01:37
by BoxBuzz
dempseyfire wrote:
ThatOne wrote:Tim Witherspoon
Mike Tyson
Trevor Berbick
Chris Byrd
Lennox Lewis
Evander Holyfield
Riddick Bowe
Larry Holmes
Quarry beats Berbick, Bowe, Witherspoon and Byrd.

I would agree though I think Bowe has a shot, but I agree Quarry has the right skillset for that job.

The one I would be most interested in would the Quarry Holyfield fight. That could have real promise as a barnburner, though I can't quite imagine Quarry winning it.

I just don't think Quarry is quite up to Lewis or Holmes. And he's a longshot against Tyson, but that could have a lot of drama if Tyson can't spark him early.

Re: Jerry Quarry V

Posted: 29 Jul 2012, 11:55
by SaadOffTheDeck
Bowe would brutalize Quarry. So many people call Bowe overrated in this forum that he is quite underrated here.

Re: Jerry Quarry V

Posted: 29 Jul 2012, 14:18
by dempseyfire
Bowe was wide open to counters and had a poor defense. Also couldn't fire a straight right cross to save his life, always throwing his powerful but wide right overhand. Quarry would have problems with Bowe's jab (when Riddick threw it) but would find his power-shots laughably slow. Quarry would stay in that middle range like he did with Lyle and just eat Bowe up with his fast pace and counter-punches.

Bowe's one "great" performance vs Evander was more due to an overconfident Evander fighting an awful fight plan and getting into a brawl rather than boxing (as he'd beaten up Bowe in sparring and thought he didn't have heart). Quarry, while hot-heated himself, could fight a disciplined fight vs big punchers as he showed vs Lyle and Foster and he'd follow that same gameplan vs Bowe.

Re: Jerry Quarry V

Posted: 29 Jul 2012, 14:21
by SaadOffTheDeck
It wouldn't come close to working. Riddick would bust him up with his jab and when Quarry got in tight he would beat him up there too.

Re: Jerry Quarry V

Posted: 30 Jul 2012, 08:38
by The Great John L
Quarry was a quality fighter with a pretty good punch, so unless Quarry held a title Bowe would have never fought him.

Re: Jerry Quarry V

Posted: 30 Jul 2012, 12:34
by Techno89
ThatOne wrote: Tim Witherspoon
Mike Tyson
Trevor Berbick
Chris Byrd
Lennox Lewis
Evander Holyfield
Riddick Bowe
Larry Holmes
He beats Berbick and Witherspoon.

The rest of them beat him comfortably

Re: Jerry Quarry V

Posted: 30 Jul 2012, 19:45
by dempseyfire
Techno89 wrote:
ThatOne wrote: Tim Witherspoon
Mike Tyson
Trevor Berbick
Chris Byrd
Lennox Lewis
Evander Holyfield
Riddick Bowe
Larry Holmes
He beats Berbick and Witherspoon.

The rest of them beat him comfortably
Chris Byrd beats Quarry comfortably??? WHAT?? I'd bet lots of money for not only Quarry to beat Byrd, but for Byrd to getting beaten up if not outright stopped.

Re: Jerry Quarry V

Posted: 31 Jul 2012, 00:33
by BoxBuzz
Byrd was slick. But not nearly slick enough to foil a fighter like quarry. Thats nonsense.

Re: Jerry Quarry V

Posted: 31 Jul 2012, 07:07
by Ezzard
I think he has some good moments against Lennox too. Lewis didn’t like fighting at a fast pace. And we might end up seeing an untidy Lewis. If Quarry weathers an early storm I can imagine him having a lot of success in the middle rounds. But Lewis would find a big punch to swing the fight back his way.

Quarry has a good chance against Holmes too… I mean putting the pressure on Larry. I’d imagine that being a 9-6 win for Holmes.

Berbick, Byrd…definite wins… Witherspoon and Bowe were both inconsistent. Close fights.

Re: Jerry Quarry V

Posted: 31 Jul 2012, 17:20
by hhaehre
Ezzard wrote: Quarry has a good chance against Holmes too… I mean putting the pressure on Larry. I’d imagine that being a 9-6 win for Holmes.
Holmes is the only one I would say Quarry has absolutely no chance to beat. We all saw how he fared against Ali and the same would happen versus Holmes imo. The others he could conceivably beat on the night but I wouldn't favor him over Bowe or Lewis. Whiterspoon would be a toss up.

Re: Jerry Quarry V

Posted: 31 Jul 2012, 21:58
by dempseyfire
Ezzard wrote:I think he has some good moments against Lennox too. Lewis didn’t like fighting at a fast pace. And we might end up seeing an untidy Lewis. If Quarry weathers an early storm I can imagine him having a lot of success in the middle rounds. But Lewis would find a big punch to swing the fight back his way.

Quarry has a good chance against Holmes too… I mean putting the pressure on Larry. I’d imagine that being a 9-6 win for Holmes.

Berbick, Byrd…definite wins… Witherspoon and Bowe were both inconsistent. Close fights.
I think Quarry would be VERY live vs Lewis . . Jerry had the power to hurt Lewis and the speed and skills to get shots into the body. Lewis to win would have to fight a pussy-safety first fight like he did vs Evander, although I'd rate a prime Quarry over the Holyfield Lewis beat. What is preventing me from picking Quarry are his short arms (one of the reasons why he had such issues with Norton and Ali) and his own shaky stamina. He could come on strong late but fade in the middle rounds. I'd be very curious to see if Lewis would try to mount some offense during those periods or if he'd stay at distance for safety sake.

Re: Jerry Quarry V

Posted: 01 Aug 2012, 08:16
by SaadOffTheDeck
No reason for Lennox to do anymore than jab and hold, that would net him a shutout, or near it, decision.

The beating Holyfield would put on Quarry would be NC-17.

Re: Jerry Quarry V

Posted: 01 Aug 2012, 09:18
by The Great John L
dempseyfire wrote:...Quarry are his short arms (one of the reasons why he had such issues with Norton and Ali)...
He had issues with Norton because he took the fight on short notice and wasn't in very good shape. Norton's reach had little to do with the results of that fight.

Re: Jerry Quarry V

Posted: 01 Aug 2012, 16:48
by Ambling Alp
He would probably get stopped in the 5 to 7 round range vs Lewis, Holyfield, Tyson, Bowe and Holmes.
Most likely he would beat Berbick and Byrd.
Witherspoon is the toughest to call. If Witherspoon was at his best, I would go with Spoon. However, I think more often than not, Quarry would beat him. Probably by decision.

Re: Jerry Quarry V

Posted: 01 Aug 2012, 18:44
by dempseyfire
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:No reason for Lennox to do anymore than jab and hold, that would net him a shutout, or near it, decision.

The beating Holyfield would put on Quarry would be NC-17.
Right, because the likes of Michael Moorer were so superior to Jerry Quarry . . . :roll:

Re: Jerry Quarry V

Posted: 01 Aug 2012, 18:59
by dempseyfire
The Great John L wrote:
dempseyfire wrote:...Quarry are his short arms (one of the reasons why he had such issues with Norton and Ali)...
He had issues with Norton because he took the fight on short notice and wasn't in very good shape. Norton's reach had little to do with the results of that fight.
I completely disagree. Quarry was not at his peak but Norton was beating Quarry from the opening bell (and before any fatigue could set in) and Quarry had issues with all good long jabbers he faced in his career; not only Ali, but Foster was giving him issues with a consistent jab before Quarry hurt him in their fight, as did Lyle when he remembered to throw it.

Re: Jerry Quarry V

Posted: 01 Aug 2012, 22:50
by SaadOffTheDeck
dempseyfire wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:No reason for Lennox to do anymore than jab and hold, that would net him a shutout, or near it, decision.

The beating Holyfield would put on Quarry would be NC-17.
Right, because the likes of Michael Moorer were so superior to Jerry Quarry . . . :roll:
No, because Holyfield was superior to Quarry.

Re: Jerry Quarry V

Posted: 02 Aug 2012, 08:07
by The Great John L
dempseyfire wrote:I completely disagree. Quarry was not at his peak but Norton was beating Quarry from the opening bell (and before any fatigue could set in) and Quarry had issues with all good long jabbers he faced in his career; not only Ali, but Foster was giving him issues with a consistent jab before Quarry hurt him in their fight, as did Lyle when he remembered to throw it.
Well we can disagree, but ALL fighters have trouble with a good jab. Just watch Zanon have success against Norton and Bob Foster against Ali. Norton had success with his jab against Quarry, but Norton's defense wasn't that great and even the under-prepared Quarry was able to land solid shots, hurt him and back him up. Quarry simply ran out of gas and his face got busted up.

A well prepared Quarry would have had a great chance of breaking Norton down, as it was pretty easy to see that Norton was affected by the shots that Quarry landed against him. Norton's chin was pretty good, he seemed to have more problems with body shots and Quarry was a particulalry nasty body puncher, even in the first few rounds of this fight.

Re: Jerry Quarry V

Posted: 02 Aug 2012, 08:39
by dempseyfire
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
dempseyfire wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:No reason for Lennox to do anymore than jab and hold, that would net him a shutout, or near it, decision.

The beating Holyfield would put on Quarry would be NC-17.
Right, because the likes of Michael Moorer were so superior to Jerry Quarry . . . :roll:
No, because Holyfield was superior to Quarry.
I edge Evander in this matchup, but that Quarry was far superior to a number of guys who gave Evander issues, calling it a NC-17 massacre just does not fit reality. A quick handed counter-puncher with solid movement and very good power is not Evander's cup of tea by any means. Holyfield would have to be at his absolute best, and it would be a very close, competitive fight.

Re: Jerry Quarry V

Posted: 02 Aug 2012, 11:23
by Syntax Error
ThatOne wrote:Tim Witherspoon
Mike Tyson
Trevor Berbick
Chris Byrd
Lennox Lewis
Evander Holyfield
Riddick Bowe
Larry Holmes
Quarry would lose to all of them with the exceptions of Berbick of Witherspoon.

I couldn't confidently pick against Witherspoon on this one, but he was hit & miss at times & if he was on one of his 'miss' days, he loses. Even on his 'hit' days, he would have found it tough against Quarry IMO.

Re: Jerry Quarry V

Posted: 02 Aug 2012, 13:47
by SaadOffTheDeck
dempseyfire wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
dempseyfire wrote:
Right, because the likes of Michael Moorer were so superior to Jerry Quarry . . . :roll:
No, because Holyfield was superior to Quarry.
I edge Evander in this matchup, but that Quarry was far superior to a number of guys who gave Evander issues, calling it a NC-17 massacre just does not fit reality. A quick handed counter-puncher with solid movement and very good power is not Evander's cup of tea by any means. Holyfield would have to be at his absolute best, and it would be a very close, competitive fight.
Quarry would get his licks in, I never said it wouldn't be competitive, but he would inevitably end up in a bloody mess. I must have missed where these fighters weren't supposed to be at their absolute best. Nobody beating Quarry soundly fits your reality, we all know that. Many of these guys are highly likely to do so.