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British Top 30 P4P August 2012
Posted: 31 Jul 2012, 20:00
by Horse
1. (1.) Carl Froch
2. (4.) David Haye
3. (2.) Amir Khan
4. (3.) Ricky Burns
5. (5.) Nathan Cleverly
6. (6.) Ola Afolabi
7. (8.) Kell Brook
8. (7.) Brian Magee (Irish)
9. (9.) Jamie McDonnell
10. (10.) Matthew Macklin
11. (14.) George Groves
12. (17.) Gavin Rees
13. (15.) Tyson Fury
14. (11.) Andy Lee (Irish)
15. (12.) Kevin Mitchell
16. (13.) Rendall Munroe
17. (16.) Darren Barker
18. (18.) Martin Murray
19. (19.) Lee Selby
20. (RE.) Lee Haskins
21. (20.) James DeGale
22. (21.) Tony Bellew
23. (22.) Dereck Chisora
24. (23.) Ryan Rhodes
25. (26.) David Price
26. (25.) Derry Mathews
27. (30.) Gary Buckland
28. (24.) Kerry Hope
29. (27.) Paul McCloskey (Irish)
30. (28.) Matthew Hatton
Out - (29.) Scott Quigg
Re: British Top 30 P4P August 2012
Posted: 31 Jul 2012, 20:00
by Horse
Any comments or criticisms of the British Top 30 P4P list are very welcome.
Re: British Top 30 P4P August 2012
Posted: 31 Jul 2012, 20:07
by JDC
I'd have Burns over Khan, right now. Massive loss for Khan
Re: British Top 30 P4P August 2012
Posted: 01 Aug 2012, 06:31
by big_tonyT
JDC wrote:I'd have Burns over Khan, right now. Massive loss for Khan
id probably agree with this at the moment to be honest!! burns on the way up and khan going the other way!!
Re: British Top 30 P4P August 2012
Posted: 01 Aug 2012, 06:53
by whiskey
Yes, two losses on the spin.
Sure Peterson was controversial and perhaps can be thrown out - but the loss to Garcia wasn't even close.
Whereas Burns has defended his belt in style. Albeit against less stern opposition.
Re: British Top 30 P4P August 2012
Posted: 01 Aug 2012, 08:23
by Horse
JDC wrote:I'd have Burns over Khan, right now. Massive loss for Khan
I considered dropping Khan below Burns, but I thought I'd wait for Burns to win his next fight before he overtook Khan. If Burns beats Mitchell then he will be very likely to move ahead of Khan.
Khan has been fighting better opposition than Burns, so I think he deserves the benefit of the doubt for now.
Re: British Top 30 P4P August 2012
Posted: 01 Aug 2012, 14:20
by Dan Dares
I'd have Afolabi above Cleverly. Hope he fights in the UK soon.
Re: British Top 30 P4P August 2012
Posted: 01 Aug 2012, 17:43
by yiddo14
Dan Dares wrote:I'd have Afolabi above Cleverly. Hope he fights in the UK soon.
I would have Brook above Nathan too.
Re: British Top 30 P4P August 2012
Posted: 01 Aug 2012, 18:52
by davie
Quigg falling off the list for drawing with a guy ranked 13th on your list strikes me as a tad harsh.
Also wouldn't have McDonnell as high as 9th
Re: British Top 30 P4P August 2012
Posted: 01 Aug 2012, 19:52
by Horse
big_tonyT wrote:id probably agree with this at the moment to be honest!! burns on the way up and khan going the other way!!
Khan has lost two in a row, but I think it is too early to say that he is on his way down.
If he has learned the lessons from his two recent defeats then he will probably be a world champion again within the next 9 months.
Re: British Top 30 P4P August 2012
Posted: 01 Aug 2012, 23:44
by jessi
When Mitchell beats burns will they swap places ?
Re: British Top 30 P4P August 2012
Posted: 01 Aug 2012, 23:46
by jessi
George Groves top ten and matthew macklin out please !
Re: British Top 30 P4P August 2012
Posted: 02 Aug 2012, 09:43
by Horse
G0mez wrote:Yes, two losses on the spin.
Sure Peterson was controversial and perhaps can be thrown out - but the loss to Garcia wasn't even close.
Whereas Burns has defended his belt in style. Albeit against less stern opposition.
Khan was trying to unify the belts of his division and win the Ring title.
Burns isn't at that level yet, so I am giving the benefit of the doubt to the more ambitious fighter.
Re: British Top 30 P4P August 2012
Posted: 02 Aug 2012, 11:18
by Horse
Dan Dares wrote:I'd have Afolabi above Cleverly. Hope he fights in the UK soon.
That would be a reasonable place to rank him.
Re: British Top 30 P4P August 2012
Posted: 06 Aug 2012, 18:14
by Horse
yiddo14 wrote:I would have Brook above Nathan too.
I think Brook, Cleverly and Afolabi are all at about the same level at the moment.
Cleverly has done less recently than either Brook or Afolabi, but I still think his record is good enough to hang on to 5th spot for now.
Re: British Top 30 P4P August 2012
Posted: 07 Aug 2012, 12:47
by Horse
davie wrote:Quigg falling off the list for drawing with a guy ranked 13th on your list strikes me as a tad harsh.
Quigg vs Munroe was more of a no contest than a draw. I didn't think I could move him up the rankings based on that fight.
davie wrote:Also wouldn't have McDonnell as high as 9th
McDonnell was a solid European champion, reigning for two years, and he beat the best domestic contender in Stuart Hall.
Macklin has lost his last two fights (albeit against the top 2 ranked fighters at middleweight), so I think McDonnell being above him is okay. Groves, Rees and Fury may have done a bit more than McDonnell in the last 18 months, but it is debatable and McDonnell had a better 2010 than those three, so I have him rated a bit higher.
Re: British Top 30 P4P August 2012
Posted: 07 Aug 2012, 12:49
by Horse
jessi wrote:When Mitchell beats burns will they swap places ?
Probably not, I don't think Burns will be dropping as low as 15th if he loses.
Re: British Top 30 P4P August 2012
Posted: 08 Aug 2012, 10:02
by Horse
jessi wrote:George Groves top ten and matthew macklin out please !
Macklin has fought at world level and done well. Groves hasn't reached that level yet, so I think Macklin deserves a top 10 place more than Groves at the moment.
If Macklin loses to Alcine in September then he will most likely drop out of the top 10.
Re: British Top 30 P4P August 2012
Posted: 09 Aug 2012, 01:28
by jessi
^ ^ both fair points

Re: British Top 30 P4P August 2012
Posted: 13 Aug 2012, 18:36
by Horse
Scone wrote:The rankings are here

the rankings are here

Yes, they are.
Scone wrote:And Horse

I'm not sure what you mean.
jessi wrote:^ ^ both fair points

