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Lamont Peterson cleared by IBF, retains title!
Posted: 10 Aug 2012, 11:06
by ALI
What are we to make of this?
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The International Boxing Federation has decided that Lamont Peterson will keep the organization’s Junior Welterweight title, which he won from Amir Khan on December 10, 2011. The organization’s decision is based on the findings reported by an independent physician, certified in internal medicine and endocrinology, retained by the IBF to review Peterson’s medical records in relation to the information disclosed in the VADA report released this past May.
The physician was asked by the IBF to provide an opinion as to whether the levels of testosterone noted in the VADA report appeared to be consistent with the therapeutic use of the hormone, or for performance enhancing purposes. Additionally, the physician was asked to confer on whether these levels of testosterone would have enhanced Lamont Peterson’s training for and performance during the bout on December 10, 2011, and for his training for the bout scheduled for May 19, 2012. After concluding the review of all the documentation provided by Peterson’s camp and the Nevada State Athletic Commission, the physician determined that the testosterone levels noted in the VADA report are consistent with the therapeutic use of the hormone and not for the purpose of performance enhancement.
Therefore, these levels would not have enhanced Lamont Peterson’s training for or performance during the bout on December 10, 2011. Nor for his training for the bout that was schedule for May 19, 2012, as a specimen collected by VADA on April 13, 2012 tested negative on May 2, 2012.
The IBF has advised Peterson’s camp of the findings established in this independent review and of his status as the organization’s Junior Welterweight Champion. Moreover, the camp was advised that Lamont Peterson must now make a mandatory defense of his title against Zab Judah, who won the elimination bout for the number one position in the IBF Junior Welterweight ratings on March 24, 2012.
Peterson’s mandatory defense should have taken place on or before September 10, 2012 but was delayed pending the receipt of the endocrinologist’s report. The IBF has ordered the respective camps into negotiations for this bout, which is now expected to take place as soon as possible on a date that all parties involved agree upon.
Re: Lamont Peterson cleared by IBF, retains title!
Posted: 10 Aug 2012, 11:10
by ShadrachSimmo
I thought the heading was Lamont Peterson cleared by LBF to begin with! Don't know what to make of it really. Nothing is a surprise these days.
Re: Lamont Peterson cleared by IBF, retains title!
Posted: 10 Aug 2012, 11:10
by ShadrachSimmo
I thought the heading was Lamont Peterson cleared by LBF to begin with! Don't know what to make of it really. Nothing is a surprise these days.
Re: Lamont Peterson cleared by IBF, retains title!
Posted: 10 Aug 2012, 11:29
by loaded_gloves
Yet another result that makes the WBA appear incredibly crooked.
Re: Lamont Peterson cleared by IBF, retains title!
Posted: 10 Aug 2012, 12:26
by ThereByTheGrace
loaded_gloves wrote:Yet another result that makes the WBA appear incredibly crooked.
Remove appear from the above sentence! "King Khan" 2 day champion will be calling him out inbetween challenging Money and changing coaches!
Re: Lamont Peterson cleared by IBF, retains title!
Posted: 10 Aug 2012, 12:45
by Boxing Addict
I knew the whole pederson thing was a joke and glad the guy's name is cleared
I reckon goldenboy and wada had something to do with trying to engineer khan vs garcia defo
khan is worth money more from the UK - TV rights from SKY etc, garcia is worth more money in the states
These sort of shit test make a mockery of the whole testing in the first place, berto should get let off aswell, as his was trace amounts
Its obvious many maybe all fighters has used artificial enhancement at some point, to have many huge prizefights without any testing and then be critical on peterson and berto for trace shit is out of order, I felt sorry on peterson from the start as I felt like he had to workhard and fight to the best of his ability to beat khan and get the big payday in the rematch, he looks like he has a genuine testosterone problem, and beat khan not from strength but ability to fight upclose
I'm happy his name is cleared
Re: Lamont Peterson cleared by IBF, retains title!
Posted: 10 Aug 2012, 13:10
by loaded_gloves
The Dark Destroyer wrote:
How does it make them look crooked? Reactionary yes, but not crooked.
They stripped a fighter who had failed a drugs test, nothing wrong with that in my book at all. They probably should have waited for the result of any formal investigation though.
How on earth can you say in one post that they were reactionary, there was nothing wrong in what they did, and they should have waited for the result of the investigation? So, they were wrong, but they were right. Okay.
Guilty until proven innocent, and before any trial by your peers. There's a frightening world.
Re: Lamont Peterson cleared by IBF, retains title!
Posted: 10 Aug 2012, 14:55
by Finn
An investigation should be held to determine the punishment, at the end of the day he should have lost both his titles, he did something against the rules knowingly.
Re: Lamont Peterson cleared by IBF, retains title!
Posted: 10 Aug 2012, 14:59
by loaded_gloves
Not according to the findings of the independent experts who have far greater access to the facts than we do.
Re: Lamont Peterson cleared by IBF, retains title!
Posted: 10 Aug 2012, 15:04
by Finn
loaded_gloves wrote:Not according to the findings of the independent experts who have far greater access to the facts than we do.
he was taking testosterone and didnt declare it cost GBP a fortune and took money out of the pockets of thousands of fans that paid to watch the rematch. find one pro boxer that doesnt know thats against the rules even we all know its against the rules. If anything this verdict is a joke if you compare it to any other sport bar MMA. Rio ferdinand got banned just for missing his test.
Re: Lamont Peterson cleared by IBF, retains title!
Posted: 10 Aug 2012, 15:14
by TJ77
Rio Ferdinand was a coke head alledgedly
Re: Lamont Peterson cleared by IBF, retains title!
Posted: 10 Aug 2012, 15:15
by Final round
Great, all boxers will be going for Testosterone implants now.
Re: Lamont Peterson cleared by IBF, retains title!
Posted: 10 Aug 2012, 16:02
by gobbles
What investigation? He took something wrong and they got 1 expert to come up with the answer they wanted.
Peterson has never turned up for a hearing at Nevada, having twice postponed. If Khan wasn't involved in this, all the people saying this is justice would be outraged.
This is just a green light for every boxer to take artificial testosterone and say it's medical.
And if it was so justified, why did Peterson fly from Washington DC to Las Vegas to have it done when he was in training for a fight in DC? Washington has some of the world's best hospitals and clinics.
Re: Lamont Peterson cleared by IBF, retains title!
Posted: 10 Aug 2012, 16:35
by Dan Dares
Re: Lamont Peterson cleared by IBF, retains title!
Posted: 11 Aug 2012, 03:39
by Final round
Disgraceful! The mans still a cheat no matter how many quacks get 'bought' in to say otherwise.
Re: Lamont Peterson cleared by IBF, retains title!
Posted: 11 Aug 2012, 04:29
by Poncey
Wait, so he used TRT to boost his levels back to normal?
And I thought VADA testing was the most accurate in the US.
Re: Lamont Peterson cleared by IBF, retains title!
Posted: 11 Aug 2012, 07:18
by JDC
loaded_gloves wrote:Yet another result that makes the WBA appear incredibly crooked.
If anything it's the IBF who look crooked...
IBF wrote:therapeutic use of the hormone
IE:
therapeutic testosterone 
...yeah right, those words have no right being in the same sentence.
DD
He tested positive for synthetic testosterone and
admitted to being on it in the first fight. He had 3.7 times the average testosterone level of a male human. 4 times the average level of testosterone used to be the limit... before the VADA like tests were introduced which distinguished between natural and synthetic testosterone.
He admitted being on a banned substance when he won the belt, and he's currently serving a suspension for failing a drug test. The IBFs therapeutic testosterone line is ridiculous at the very least, and he should be stripped.
Re: Lamont Peterson cleared by IBF, retains title!
Posted: 14 Aug 2012, 01:35
by grannyman
Final round wrote:Disgraceful! The mans still a cheat no matter how many quacks get 'bought' in to say otherwise.
If a man who struggles to produce testosterone takes a dose of some to still be below the average amount and should be banned, then all diabetics should train and fight without insulin?
By your comment, I assume you agree with this.
Douche.
Re: Lamont Peterson cleared by IBF, retains title!
Posted: 14 Aug 2012, 05:07
by JDC
grannyman wrote:Final round wrote:Disgraceful! The mans still a cheat no matter how many quacks get 'bought' in to say otherwise.
If a man who struggles to produce testosterone takes a dose of some to still be below the average amount and should be banned, then all diabetics should train and fight without insulin?
By your comment, I assume you agree with this.
Douche.
Average?
...they gave him enough testosterone to equip 3 to 4 men.
Re: Lamont Peterson cleared by IBF, retains title!
Posted: 14 Aug 2012, 05:24
by gobbles
grannyman wrote:Final round wrote:Disgraceful! The mans still a cheat no matter how many quacks get 'bought' in to say otherwise.
If a man who struggles to produce testosterone takes a dose of some to still be below the average amount and should be banned, then all diabetics should train and fight without insulin?
By your comment, I assume you agree with this.
Douche.
Any sportsman who undergoes testosterone treatment and doesn't declare it, is a cheat. Their only defence to this was "we didn't know we had to declare it", which is nonsense. Barry Hunter, his trainer, has been involved with the US Olympic team, so knows all this.
Interesting that Peterson, while in training for Khan, flew from Washington to a little known clinic in Las Vegas to have this done. You would imagine that a city like Washington would not be short of such facilities. Imagine if the positions were reversed and a British fighter, while in training, flew to Italy for such treatment without declaring it to the Board.
Re: Lamont Peterson cleared by IBF, retains title!
Posted: 14 Aug 2012, 08:15
by Wrists
I love how only on here that a man fails a drugs test and somehow its Amir Khan's fault.
Feck me
Re: Lamont Peterson cleared by IBF, retains title!
Posted: 14 Aug 2012, 10:20
by earsjohn
As I understood it, the VADA findings (positive test) related to samples taken around the time of the proposed second fight, while no positive test had been made at the time of the first fight (either because there was nothing to find or because the testing was insufficient to find it).
So the IBF statement saying that the levels would not have enhanced training or performance during the bout in December is bonkers.
Also how independent is an "independent physician, certified in internal medicine and endocrinology, retained by the IBF"? Surely by being paid a retained, they instantly lose their independence (I'm not for a second, however, suggesting that they have lost their integrity).
This statement and decision could imply that a vast range of potentially performance enhancing drugs or masking agents are acceptable to be used, without notification (which I would say is the key element in this situation) without penalty. This sets a clear precedent, and the IBF would have to endure a costly legal exercise if they were to penalise someone for failing a test who uses the "therapeutic use" argument.
Re: Lamont Peterson cleared by IBF, retains title!
Posted: 14 Aug 2012, 10:32
by jameswilson
Wrists wrote:I love how only on here that a man fails a drugs test and somehow its Amir Khan's fault.
Feck me
Agreed. Some on here are talking as if they are the foremost authority on here. As far as I am aware there's nobody on here with a medical PhD so lets not talk as if any of us do.
My opinion (which as I say above doesn't mean much) is that something is up. If you are a pro athlete you make damn sure that what you are administering yourself is koshier, likewise if you are a pro athletes trainer.
Re: Lamont Peterson cleared by IBF, retains title!
Posted: 14 Aug 2012, 10:48
by Horse
Khan vs Peterson II should be set up to take place early next year.
Re: Lamont Peterson cleared by IBF, retains title!
Posted: 14 Aug 2012, 11:16
by jameswilson
Horse wrote:Khan vs Peterson II should be set up to take place early next year.
Khan will need a win to get back in contention. I hope he gets rematches with Peterson and Garcia tho he can definately beat both those guys. I am no huge Khan fan but I can not stand Tim Bradley and do think Khan would beat him and feel despite Khan's limitations he is a much more exciting fighter. In saying that I think Bradley is horrifically boring as a fighter and a personality.
