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Ironies In Boxing
Posted: 24 Aug 2012, 17:00
by HomicideHenry
Here's one....
Ken Norton broke the MSG knock out record when he beat Duane Bobick in less than one minute; was roughly 58 seconds. Whats ironic is, Norton would be involved in the next MSG knock out record: when Gerry Cooney kayoed Norton in 53 seconds....
Re: Ironies In Boxing
Posted: 24 Aug 2012, 18:30
by BoxBuzz
It's old and worn, but a pitty patter like Ali Knocks two of the biggest punchers of all time, Liston (x2) and Foreman down and out at both ends of his career.
Calzaghe actually turned out to be the "Anti-Ottke". As I do believe he earned his stripes when his entire career is taken into account. For a long time I thought of Cal and Sven as the "European SMW Twins".
Re: Ironies In Boxing
Posted: 24 Aug 2012, 18:50
by scallum
Sugar Ray leonard named after Ray Charles ,Ray Charles real name Ray Robinson. kind of corny but its the best I had
Re: Ironies In Boxing
Posted: 24 Aug 2012, 19:14
by Expug
Billy Douglas . Worked hard,fought the best,fought the Philly middleweights of the seventies and never quite got there. Gave it his all though.blood and guts all the way. His kid,not exactly known for his work ethic and spartan training habits,knocks out Tyson in the greatest sports upset in history.
Re: Ironies In Boxing
Posted: 24 Aug 2012, 20:16
by Rover
Michael Moore was often criticized for having been too passive.
Yet, against Foreman late in the fight, he didn't run away even though he was ahead, and he got caught.
Had he been more cautious, he'd have stayed undefeated.
Re: Ironies In Boxing
Posted: 24 Aug 2012, 22:01
by Jaclem
when a boxer met a puncher, the usual prediction would be if it went the distance the boxer would win, if by a kayo the puncher would. in charles/marciano I, the puncher won the decision; in ali/frazier I it was the same result.
Re: Ironies In Boxing
Posted: 24 Aug 2012, 22:29
by darren_simion
Corrales criticizing the hell out of Castillo for not making weight twice. Then fails to make weight twice in his next fight against Casamayor and Clottey.
Re: Ironies In Boxing
Posted: 27 Aug 2012, 11:08
by oliverfennell
While we're on Corrales - Mayweather dissing the hell out of him for hitting his partner, and later being jailed himself for the same thing.
Re: Ironies In Boxing
Posted: 27 Aug 2012, 11:33
by Syntax Error
Riddick Bowe has recently accused Lennox Lewis of ducking him, because Lennox doesn't want to come out of retirement at 47 years old to fight him!
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Re: Ironies In Boxing
Posted: 27 Aug 2012, 14:27
by Rover
Syntax Error wrote:Riddick Bowe has recently accused Lennox Lewis of ducking him, because Lennox doesn't want to come out of retirement at 47 years old to fight him!
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Give Bowe a break; he has brain issues.
Re: Ironies In Boxing
Posted: 27 Aug 2012, 16:37
by Nile4000
Michael Dokes, not only beat Mike Weaver for the world title and took the belt, but he also took his girlfriend from him.
Re: Ironies In Boxing
Posted: 27 Aug 2012, 16:48
by HomicideHenry
Tom O'Rourke, an old time fighter in the turn of the 20th century, watched films of Joe Louis before encountering Schmeling; O'Rourke said that John L. Sullivan would have beaten Louis, because Sullivan's greatest was a right cross. IT would be Schmeling's right cross, that kayoed Louis.
Re: Ironies In Boxing
Posted: 27 Aug 2012, 20:30
by darren_simion
Syntax Error wrote:Riddick Bowe has recently accused Lennox Lewis of ducking him, because Lennox doesn't want to come out of retirement at 47 years old to fight him!
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I dont think thats ironic. Thats just sad.
Re: Ironies In Boxing
Posted: 28 Aug 2012, 09:31
by oliverfennell
Nile4000 wrote:Michael Dokes, not only beat Mike Weaver for the world title and took the belt, but he also took his girlfriend from him.
Life imitating art - it sounds like a wrestling storyline!
Re: Ironies In Boxing
Posted: 01 Sep 2012, 21:55
by Bricks
BoxBuzz wrote:It's old and worn, but a pitty patter like Ali Knocks two of the biggest punchers of all time, Liston (x2) and Foreman down and out at both ends of his career.
Calzaghe actually turned out to be the "Anti-Ottke". As I do believe he earned his stripes when his entire career is taken into account. For a long time I thought of Cal and Sven as the "European SMW Twins".
Give the olde man a cigar. i also saw how calzaghe in the early part of his world title career drifted between being a stinker with seeming power shortages and a bastard child of jack dempsey sans the power. the brewer fight was a watershed for me, and the glorious end to his career sealed his rep.
the pazienza-haughan friendship carried a heavy dose of irony
Re: Ironies In Boxing
Posted: 02 Sep 2012, 16:07
by Expug
Harold Johnson was a helluva fighter. However, he holds the distinction of both he and his father both being knocked out by the same guy.
Jersey Joe Walcott.
I dunno if its irony, interesting trivia though maybe.
Re: Ironies In Boxing
Posted: 02 Sep 2012, 16:30
by Rover
How about this one:
Before the Leonard-Hagler bout, the camps were negotiating about the judges. Hagler's camp objected to Harry Gibbs. They settled on Jojo Guerra, who scored it widely for Leonard. Gibbs later told the press that he'd scored it for Hagler.
Hagler's camp preferred a Mexican judge over a British one, thinking that the Mexican judge would be more likely to score for aggression over slick boxing.
Didn't turn out that way.
Re: Ironies In Boxing
Posted: 03 Sep 2012, 14:05
by Syntax Error
Rover wrote:How about this one:
Before the Leonard-Hagler bout, the camps were negotiating about the judges. Hagler's camp objected to Harry Gibbs. They settled on Jojo Guerra, who scored it widely for Leonard. Gibbs later told the press that he'd scored it for Hagler.
Hagler's camp preferred a Mexican judge over a British one, thinking that the Mexican judge would be more likely to score for aggression over slick boxing.
Didn't turn out that way.
That's a really good call.
I bet Hagler has beaten himself up over that for quarter of a century.
Re: Ironies In Boxing
Posted: 03 Sep 2012, 15:46
by p4p1
scallum wrote:Sugar Ray leonard named after Ray Charles ,Ray Charles real name Ray Robinson. kind of corny but its the best I had
To go further on that Ray Charles called himself Ray Charles because of Sugar Ray Robinson who's real name was Walker Smith Jr
Re: Ironies In Boxing
Posted: 03 Sep 2012, 15:49
by Rover
To go even further, Ray Charles was blind, and a detached retina and the concern over going blind due to ring injury sidelined Leonard.
Re: Ironies In Boxing
Posted: 05 Sep 2012, 15:22
by Nile4000
Ray Leonard, in his first pro fight, beat Luis Vega, who, as an amateur, beat Olympic Teammate Howard Davis Jr.
Re: Ironies In Boxing
Posted: 05 Sep 2012, 15:56
by Rover
Nile4000 wrote:Ray Leonard, in his first pro fight, beat Luis Vega, who, as an amateur, beat Olympic Teammate Howard Davis Jr.
Ray got revenge for Howard.:)
Re: Ironies In Boxing
Posted: 06 Sep 2012, 08:40
by Flump
How about Roy Jones in his prime almost acting like he he couldn't be bothered with boxing, but now he's completely shot he can't get enough!
Re: Ironies In Boxing
Posted: 06 Sep 2012, 14:53
by Rover
How about this one:
According to Arguello's son, Pryor wanted the fight to be 12 rounds (first Arguello fight). Alexis wanted it to be 15. (This is from the HBO Legendary Nights documentary, and again, this was Arguello's son saying it.)
If that's true, pretty ironic that Pryor (who was supposedly worried about going 15, which he'd never had to do; his longest was 12 v. Montilla) was the one who finished it in the 14th.
(Pryor had had fights scheduled for 15; I'm saying he never went past 12--"Never Never Land," as Barry Tompkins put it.)
Re: Ironies In Boxing
Posted: 07 Sep 2012, 14:37
by Rover
How about Tito's having won a decision over Oscar in Vegas when the pre-fight perception was that, if the fight was close, Oscar would get it?