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KO's that rescued us from bad decisions.

Posted: 29 Aug 2012, 20:43
by Rover
Here are some examples:
Douglas/Tyson: Even after 9; one judge had it for Douglas, one had it for Tyson, and the third had it a draw.
Vaden/Petway: Somehow, Petway was ahead in that fight.
Gomez/Nelson: Unbelievably, Wilfredo was ahead on two cards through 10 rounds.
Nelson/Fenech II: Laughably, two judges had that fight even at the time that Nelson lowered the boom.
Otis Grant v. Quincy Taylor: According to the USA Tuesday Night Fights broadcast, Grant was somehow winning when Taylor caught him, though the scoring isn't on their records here.
Others?

Re: KO's that rescued us from bad decisions.

Posted: 29 Aug 2012, 21:03
by BoxBuzz
Rover, I'm afraid some of the very worst offenders may never be known.

OR....is there a way to KNOW what the scorecards were for any fight? Is this documentation kept?

Do the sanctioning bodies have processes and policies on that documentation?

And is it obtainable?

Re: KO's that rescued us from bad decisions.

Posted: 29 Aug 2012, 21:14
by Rover
BoxBuzz wrote:Rover, I'm afraid some of the very worst offenders may never be known.

OR....is there a way to KNOW what the scorecards were for any fight? Is this documentation kept?

Do the sanctioning bodies have processes and policies on that documentation?

And is it obtainable?
Somehow Boxrec obtained the scores, as they're listed on the fighters' records.
I also believe (though it's no longer on Boxrec for some reason) that two judges had Tyrone Trice ahead after 13 v. Brown. (I'm certain that one did.) That's my source for this post.
I also tried not to look at fights that were, say, a round or two old before the KO; I focused on fights that already had gone a long way.

Re: KO's that rescued us from bad decisions.

Posted: 30 Aug 2012, 01:33
by Rover
BarryWashington wrote:two of the judges in the Pernell Whitaker/Diosbelys Hurtado fight had their scores way too close (judge: John Stewart 92-93 | judge: Lazaro Carrasco 92-94) before Sweet Pea got the TKO in the 11th.
But they didn't have Whitaker ahead, right?

Re: KO's that rescued us from bad decisions.

Posted: 30 Aug 2012, 03:43
by Counter-puncher
Rover wrote:Here are some examples:
Douglas/Tyson: Even after 9; one judge had it for Douglas, one had it for Tyson, and the third had it a draw.
Vaden/Petway: Somehow, Petway was ahead in that fight.
Gomez/Nelson: Unbelievably, Wilfredo was ahead on two cards through 10 rounds.
Nelson/Fenech II: Laughably, two judges had that fight even at the time that Nelson lowered the boom.
Otis Grant v. Quincy Taylor: According to the USA Tuesday Night Fights broadcast, Grant was somehow winning when Taylor caught him, though the scoring isn't on their records here.
Others?

good thread and goo0d calls. I like Barry's point, never knew Whitaker was anything other than way down against Hurtado, certainly he shoould have been about 8 rds down.

Re: KO's that rescued us from bad decisions.

Posted: 01 Sep 2012, 22:10
by jrc26
Cooney-Holmes. 113-111 (Twice) and 115-109. Mind you, Cooney had 3 points deducted to two judges had him winning more rounds when it was stopped. I had Cooney winning 2 rounds. I think they wanted the white guy to win that one.

Moorer-Foreman; Duane Ford (shocker) had it 86-85 Moorer. I think I had Foreman winning one round. The other 2 judges had it far enough apart where Foreman wouldn't have won, but a split decision would have still looked foolish.