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Bizarre scorecards.
Posted: 03 Sep 2012, 23:14
by Rover
I'll give some examples of what I mean.
McCallum/Mannion: One judge had McCallum up 149-123, even though there were no knockdowns!
Pedroza/Mayor: One judge had it 149-128 for Pedroza even though there were no KD's.
Pintor/Zarate: One judge had it 147-133 for Zarate even though there only was 1 KD!
Hearns v. Freddie Delgado: One judge had it 117-104 for Hearns even though there was only one KD.
From the same card, Czyz/George O'Mara: One judge had it 100-71 for Czyz, even though there were no knockdowns.
And the king of all has to go to Pete Taliafarrow v. Bernard Taylor.
In a fight with no knockdowns, one judge had Pete up 112-105 (no typo).
But that was outdone by another who had Bernard up 111-107 (no typo).
The third judge, Chester Comeau, had PT up 118-111.
Bernstein was so shocked by the scores that he interviewed Comeau (the only sane judge) (Pete clearly won the fight).
So, what are examples of just plain bizarre scorecards?
Re: Bizarre scorecards.
Posted: 06 Sep 2012, 23:45
by Rover
All three cards were bizarre in Galindez v. Kosie Smith. Was this a 7-point must or something?
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Re: Bizarre scorecards.
Posted: 29 Sep 2012, 11:07
by oliverfennell
One of the judges for Adilson Rodrigues v Johnny Nelson had it 120-119, i.e. 11 rounds even!
Re: Bizarre scorecards.
Posted: 29 Sep 2012, 11:24
by Rover
oliverfennell wrote:One of the judges for Adilson Rodrigues v Johnny Nelson had it 120-119, i.e. 11 rounds even!
One judge in Hagler/Seales I had it 99-99!
Re: Bizarre scorecards.
Posted: 29 Sep 2012, 13:24
by iamasadlittleboy
A lot of Cristian Mijares fights had one judge who appeared to be blind.
Re: Bizarre scorecards.
Posted: 29 Sep 2012, 13:45
by gilgamesh
112-105 is really strange to me. What are judges doing? The only thing I can think is they're scoring rounds 8-7 or some weird crap like that. This has to be chalked up to sheer incompetence and these judges apparently don't understand how the 10 point must system works. Any respectable commision would fire a judge immediately after turning in such a nonsensical scorecard.
Re: Bizarre scorecards.
Posted: 29 Sep 2012, 19:03
by Rover
gilgamesh wrote:112-105 is really strange to me. What are judges doing? The only thing I can think is they're scoring rounds 8-7 or some weird crap like that. This has to be chalked up to sheer incompetence and these judges apparently don't understand how the 10 point must system works. Any respectable commision would fire a judge immediately after turning in such a nonsensical scorecard.
111-107 was just as atrocious. The ESPN crew were incredulous.
Re: Bizarre scorecards.
Posted: 01 Oct 2012, 19:18
by Bobbyptsd
There was a thread like this, probably a little over a year ago or something like that. Someone mentioned a fight where one judge had it 120-108 for one guy, another had it like 120-107 for the other guy, and the third judge had it a draw.
I can't remember the fighters, sorry I know that's not a lot of information, but the thread made me think of that, wish I could find it, because that's about as bizarre as it gets. It wasn't bizarre in an odd tally of numbers to wind up with sense, but in how much it was all over the place.
Re: Bizarre scorecards.
Posted: 01 Oct 2012, 20:05
by iamasadlittleboy
Mijares v Navarro
judge: Chris Wilson 115-113 | judge: Doug Tucker 108-120 | judge: Adalaide Byrd 117-111
Re: Bizarre scorecards.
Posted: 01 Oct 2012, 21:54
by Rover
The cards in Canizales/Jones were all over the place.
Re: Bizarre scorecards.
Posted: 01 Oct 2012, 23:20
by Jaclem
....jack dempsey was referee and sole judge of a fight between ezzard charles and rex layne. he scored it 2 rounds for layne, one for charles and seven even.
Re: Bizarre scorecards.
Posted: 02 Oct 2012, 21:36
by Bobbyptsd
iamasadlittleboy wrote:Mijares v Navarro
judge: Chris Wilson 115-113 | judge: Doug Tucker 108-120 | judge: Adalaide Byrd 117-111
I think I recalled the scores a bit wrong, and that was the fight I was referring to. I didn't realize it was as relatively high profile a fight as that, but when I saw Navarro I remembered.
Re: Bizarre scorecards.
Posted: 17 Dec 2017, 06:28
by Controversial
Old thread bump. How about Adalaide Byrd who made Alvarez a 118-110 winner over GGG.
Any other examples?
Re: Bizarre scorecards.
Posted: 17 Dec 2017, 10:54
by wouter
Bobby Crabtree vs. Kenny Keene II: 116-115 | 120-108 | 111-119
Re: Bizarre scorecards.
Posted: 17 Dec 2017, 11:29
by Controversial
wouter wrote: ↑17 Dec 2017, 10:54
Bobby Crabtree vs. Kenny Keene II: 116-115 | 120-108 | 111-119
How the hell did they come up with that?
Re: Bizarre scorecards.
Posted: 18 Dec 2017, 11:56
by Ambling Alp II
That one was pretty weird. Quite a diversity of opinion.
How about the Joe Louis vs Tony Musto?
Apparently a total of 10 points could be scored for the two fighters for each round.
Louis stopped him in the 9th round.
Here are how the judges scored it after 8 rounds:
Arthur Donovan 67-13 | Al Graff 46-34 | Mordie Wolf 42-38
Re: Bizarre scorecards.
Posted: 22 Dec 2017, 22:52
by jbizzle20
Lot of people forget that Tyson-Douglas would have been a draw had it gone to the cards in the 10th. That was just complete BS. Douglas was owning Tyson the whole fight. Press would've screamed it was a Don King job to screw Douglas. Would've made DLH-Trinidad cards look like the gospel truth by comparison.
Rozadilla 82-88 (Douglas)
Morita. 87-86 (Tyson)
Uchida. 86-86