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Triple G v. G-Man.
Posted: 10 Sep 2012, 02:14
by Rover
Golovkin v. McClellan at middle.
I think Golovkin's streak of never having been hurt or down would end.
He gets hit way too much and cleanly, and McClellan has proved his chin against the huge puncher Jackson.
McClellan by KO in a war.
(This thread is intended to bring some people back down to earth about Golovkin; I enjoy him a lot, but some of the hype is laughable.)
Re: Triple G v. G-Man.
Posted: 10 Sep 2012, 16:20
by Rover
BarryWashington wrote:G-Man would stop him in 5.
there's not a current MW or SMW i would favor over him. great use of the jab, could move well with the jab, crafty (and strong) in the clinches, threw a left hook to the body that makes JCC Jr's look like patty cake, was HUGE (6'0 1/2 rehydrated to 180ish with a 77" reach), would destroy people when they had their backs to the ropes with punches coming from all angles and let's highlight that he had a chin that was elite league of all-time chins, was in the elite league of all-time wills/hearts (who the eff fights with a forming blood clot in their brain FOR ROUNDS?!), and could take you out with one punch (i would not be surprised if he could have knocked out HW's).
like i say every time i talk about g-man - eff you, alfredo asaro
I think Ward would Hopkins him to a decision.
Re: Triple G v. G-Man.
Posted: 10 Sep 2012, 16:25
by Rover
BarryWashington wrote:can't see it. i think g-man would knock him out.
the only MW's in their primes of the last couple decades i'd favor over him would be toney (on a peak night) & b-hop. think every one else would get stopped (and no asaro doesn't get to be the ref for these hypotheticals).
Eubank?
Re: Triple G v. G-Man.
Posted: 10 Sep 2012, 16:29
by Rover
BarryWashington wrote:eubank would be a good match-up but i see g-man's power being more than eubank's (though eubank had an awesome will & chin). could see that playing out a la matthysse-ajose. where it takes forever for eubank to be taken out. think g-man had the sharper skills than eubank (though i'm a big eubank fan).
Eubank's chin was far more proven than Ajose's. Never stopped until cruiser, and that was due to swelling against a big puncher in his last fight.
Re: Triple G v. G-Man.
Posted: 10 Sep 2012, 16:32
by Rover
BarryWashington wrote:a shame lamar parks got AIDS (i think that's what it was?). him vs g-man would have been a great fight (instead g-man treated baptist like a rag-doll)
Yep, it was AIDS.
Speaking of McClellan-Baptiste, that reminds me of McCallum who fought on the undercard.
McCallum/Toney II (prime Toney) was 20 years ago last month. McCallum had a great chin. I think he'd beat McClellan.
Re: Triple G v. G-Man.
Posted: 11 Sep 2012, 12:40
by orbtastic
Parks had/has HIV, not AIDS.
Re: Triple G v. G-Man.
Posted: 11 Sep 2012, 15:42
by Rover
orbtastic wrote:Parks had/has HIV, not AIDS.
So he's like Magic Johnson; good to know.
I remember Parks v. Baptiste; Parks pounded on him for almost 11 rounds before Baptiste succumbed. G-Man went out there and smoked Baptiste.
Re: Triple G v. G-Man.
Posted: 11 Sep 2012, 21:14
by gilgamesh
We need to let Triple G prove a little more in his own time before we start putting him in hypothetical matches against Past greats.
Re: Triple G v. G-Man.
Posted: 11 Sep 2012, 21:21
by Rover
gilgamesh wrote:We need to let Triple G prove a little more in his own time before we start putting him in hypothetical matches against Past greats.
That's why I used G-Man. He won two middle belts, one of which he never defended (v. Mugabi) and the other which he defended 3 times before the Benn tragedy.
McClellan was a potential great, but he wasn't, say, a Sanchez, who'd achieved greatness already before his tragedy.
Re: Triple G v. G-Man.
Posted: 12 Sep 2012, 07:53
by gilgamesh
I got ya Rover, and I understand G-Man is mostly a case of "what might have been" and not necessarily a legend, but I mean let's face it. At this moment, most of us are judging Triple G's status on one big victory against a lower half Top 10 Middleweight, while there's no denying he looked about as impressive as could be in that bout, I'm just saying I think we should at least let him show he can get it done at the Top level first before we put him in hypothetical matches of any sort...but that's me. You guys do what you like
Re: Triple G v. G-Man.
Posted: 12 Sep 2012, 10:47
by Rover
gilgamesh wrote:I got ya Rover, and I understand G-Man is mostly a case of "what might have been" and not necessarily a legend, but I mean let's face it. At this moment, most of us are judging Triple G's status on one big victory against a lower half Top 10 Middleweight, while there's no denying he looked about as impressive as could be in that bout, I'm just saying I think we should at least let him show he can get it done at the Top level first before we put him in hypothetical matches of any sort...but that's me. You guys do what you like
I mainly wrote it out of frustration, Gilgamesh. People are going insane based on one impressive performance. Golovkin'll KO Martinez, Ward (yes, I've heard that), etc. This thread's a little reality check, though I imagine some think Triple G would KO the G-Man, too.
Re: Triple G v. G-Man.
Posted: 12 Sep 2012, 12:55
by giacomino
Rover wrote:gilgamesh wrote:I got ya Rover, and I understand G-Man is mostly a case of "what might have been" and not necessarily a legend, but I mean let's face it. At this moment, most of us are judging Triple G's status on one big victory against a lower half Top 10 Middleweight, while there's no denying he looked about as impressive as could be in that bout, I'm just saying I think we should at least let him show he can get it done at the Top level first before we put him in hypothetical matches of any sort...but that's me. You guys do what you like
I mainly wrote it out of frustration, Gilgamesh. People are going insane based on one impressive performance. Golovkin'll KO Martinez, Ward (yes, I've heard that), etc. This thread's a little reality check, though I imagine some think Triple G would KO the G-Man, too.
Found it funny that some of the same people who pissed on Ward after he beat Dawson wanted to have Golovkin's babies after he beat Proksa. I love a puncher and have long been high on Golovkin, but it would be nice if he beat a few more decent fighters before we put him into the HOF.
Re: Triple G v. G-Man.
Posted: 12 Sep 2012, 13:22
by Bricks
BarryWashington wrote:G-Man would stop him in 5.
there's not a current MW or SMW i would favor over him. great use of the jab, could move well with the jab, crafty (and strong) in the clinches, threw a left hook to the body that makes JCC Jr's look like patty cake, was HUGE (6'0 1/2 rehydrated to 180ish with a 77" reach), would destroy people when they had their backs to the ropes with punches coming from all angles and let's highlight that he had a chin that was elite league of all-time chins, was in the elite league of all-time wills/hearts (who the eff fights with a forming blood clot in their brain FOR ROUNDS?!), and could take you out with one punch (i would not be surprised if he could have knocked out HW's).
like i say every time i talk about g-man - eff you, alfredo asaro
Perhaps one of the most beautiful posts ever made on this forum.
and to hell with Alfredo Assholro who wanted that inbreds name was.The way he blamed Mclellans corner as solely responsible was disgusting. im a huge benn fan but really that fight was a first round kayo loss for benn
As for todays 160lb fighters no one could handle mclellan. At 168 I think Ward outsmarts him, and Froch would be an incredible war but otherwise he takes the likes of kessler, dirrel, pavlik,abraham and the rest.
Re: Triple G v. G-Man.
Posted: 13 Sep 2012, 10:41
by Bricks
Id take mccallum over mclellan any day though.
Mccallum had a very decent punch himself....was just so smart...such a excellent boxer...impossible to faze...to be frank style wise a terrible fight for gman and id see mcallum perhaps even wearing him down around the 10th or 11th or winning handily on points
Re: Triple G v. G-Man.
Posted: 13 Sep 2012, 14:32
by Rover
mugabi wrote:Id take mccallum over mclellan any day though.
Mccallum had a very decent punch himself....was just so smart...such a excellent boxer...impossible to faze...to be frank style wise a terrible fight for gman and id see mcallum perhaps even wearing him down around the 10th or 11th or winning handily on points
And a rock chin.
Re: Triple G v. G-Man.
Posted: 17 Oct 2013, 04:00
by Vladimir5555
G-Man by KO in war.