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What makes a puncher?

Posted: 07 Mar 2004, 10:10
by tonyevs
“If Winstone had carried a worthwhile punch, it is doubtful if any featherweight in history could have beaten him. He had sublime skill, defensive artistry, a left jab of unerring accuracy and withering speed, but the loss of the tops of three fingers in an industrial accident meant he could not punch his full weight” written by Harry Mullan former editor of Boxing News.
What makes a puncher? Why didn’t Winstone have a KO punch?
I know some smart-ass will say the obvious high percentage of KO wins, but what I mean is what makes one fighter able to knock an opponent out with a good punch and yet another fighter can land his Sunday punch and his opponent is still in front of him.
When you punch you close your hands in the glove tightly so as not to break your fingers, and you try to hit with the first two knuckles so the wrist is straight, so you do not break your wrist. Winstone could still have done this even with the missing tops of three fingers.
Lots of fighters had little things that they thought improved their strength or punching ability, Archie Moore has the record for the most knock out’s (129) he put his punching ability down to strengthening his arms by walking on them as part of his training, Marciano would stand up to his neck in water and throw punches as part of his way of improving his punching. So if it was a case of having muscular arms to be able to knock another fighter out then how did Jimmy Wilde and Eric Morales do it so frequently when their arms were like lolly-pop sticks, Winstone had arms thicker than the two mentioned.
Sugar Ray Robinson put it down to speed though Winstone had this ability and the accuracy to go with it.
How about technique then? The fantastic Brendan Ingle says you can be taught to punch and get the KO.
When Tommy Hearn’s was an amateur he was not anything of the KO artist he would become, Emanuel Steward is credited to have showed Hearn` s how to become this, just like he did with Michael Moorer. Though Winstone is said to have had sublime skill, he was a brilliant amateur also, so surely he knew how to punch if it was really something you could learn.
So what does make a puncher?
My feelings are you either got it or you haven’t. Winstone just wasn’t a puncher, with or without the tips on his fingers he would have been the same.
So the article written on Howard Winstone I feel was wrong, sure he was a good boxer, but I think Harry Mullan was wrong about the tips of his fingers being a reason why he did not carry the KO punch, and as for it being doubtful if any featherweight in history could have beaten him if he had not lost them ….well don’t get me started.
Feel free to argue otherwise..

What makes a puncher?

Posted: 16 Mar 2004, 19:27
by Palais
Dynamic co-ordination with shoulders, back muscles, leg muscles and foot-work. The power of the punch developes from the foot-stamp, through the leg, back, shoulder and knuckles, in one stiff explosive split second, when you hit the right spot of your target.
Try it!
:)

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Posted: 23 Mar 2004, 16:58
by barry
Power is also plain and simply a gift from above for the boxers that have it, some never will, but like Palias said, anyone can improve hitting power, but don't expect to turn from a Benvenuti to a Hearns because it can't happen, also perfect placed punches can drop just about anyone if it's right on the button!

Posted: 30 Mar 2004, 09:10
by {amateur}
I would have thought it was mainly Genetic say the tendons and ligaments on muscles. Anyone can build up huge muscles to have a hard hit, but having a naturally hard hit is a gift from above. Another is big hands i know this guy he has huge hands and is weak as piss when he hits ytou the shape of his hand makes you hurt because of it could this have anything to do with it.

Posted: 30 Mar 2004, 09:14
by mrbassie
Rola Cola, and lot's of it.

Posted: 01 Apr 2004, 09:13
by {amateur}
What about steroids thy seems to mak you stronger what about hit harder?

Posted: 03 Apr 2004, 12:08
by zurdo
There was another thread on this exact subject a couple of months ago and boxbible made an absoulutely brilliant post explaining the mechanics and physical principles invloved ...the single best one i've seen on boxrec thus far...