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english light middle title eliminator
Posted: 11 Oct 2012, 13:49
by maley1984
Nasser al harbi v jamie ball the rematch gone to purse bids. First fight ended in a draw after a cut to al harbi. Clash of heads or punch claimed by ball that's another argument but get it on ordered by the board
Re: english light middle title eliminator
Posted: 11 Oct 2012, 14:25
by mcato
maley1984 wrote:Nasser al harbi v jamie ball the rematch gone to purse bids. First fight ended in a draw after a cut to al harbi. Clash of heads or punch claimed by ball that's another argument but get it on ordered by the board
Might be for the title as Hearns has openly said title will be vacated by Ochieng
Re: english light middle title eliminator
Posted: 11 Oct 2012, 14:35
by Adamj1987
mcato wrote:maley1984 wrote:Nasser al harbi v jamie ball the rematch gone to purse bids. First fight ended in a draw after a cut to al harbi. Clash of heads or punch claimed by ball that's another argument but get it on ordered by the board
Might be for the title as Hearns has openly said title will be vacated by Ochieng
will ochieng be going in for next brit title eliminator or is he going a diff direction?
Re: english light middle title eliminator
Posted: 11 Oct 2012, 14:48
by mcato
Adamj1987 wrote:mcato wrote:maley1984 wrote:Nasser al harbi v jamie ball the rematch gone to purse bids. First fight ended in a draw after a cut to al harbi. Clash of heads or punch claimed by ball that's another argument but get it on ordered by the board
Might be for the title as Hearns has openly said title will be vacated by Ochieng
will ochieng be going in for next brit title eliminator or is he going a diff direction?
i dont think he is waiting around for the british title/ commonwealth will also take long as cox just coming back
Re: english light middle title eliminator
Posted: 11 Oct 2012, 15:04
by maley1984
Might be for the title as Hearns has openly said title will be vacated by Ochieng[/quote]
will ochieng be going in for next brit title eliminator or is he going a diff direction?[/quote]
i dont think he is waiting around for the british title/ commonwealth will also take long as cox just coming back[/quote]
ive read cox is gunna fight that spike who beat hall last time out in dec
Re: english light middle title eliminator
Posted: 11 Oct 2012, 15:21
by mcato
maley1984 wrote:Might be for the title as Hearns has openly said title will be vacated by Ochieng
will ochieng be going in for next brit title eliminator or is he going a diff direction?[/quote]
i dont think he is waiting around for the british title/ commonwealth will also take long as cox just coming back[/quote]
ive read cox is gunna fight that spike who beat hall last time out in dec[/quote]
He is a middleweight. Where did you read that?
Re: english light middle title eliminator
Posted: 11 Oct 2012, 15:25
by maley1984
mcato wrote:maley1984 wrote:Might be for the title as Hearns has openly said title will be vacated by Ochieng
will ochieng be going in for next brit title eliminator or is he going a diff direction?
i dont think he is waiting around for the british title/ commonwealth will also take long as cox just coming back[/quote]
ive read cox is gunna fight that spike who beat hall last time out in dec[/quote]
He is a middleweight. Where did you read that?[/quote]
check hook boxing forum
Re: english light middle title eliminator
Posted: 11 Oct 2012, 15:40
by mcato
maley1984 wrote:mcato wrote:maley1984 wrote:Might be for the title as Hearns has openly said title will be vacated by Ochieng
will ochieng be going in for next brit title eliminator or is he going a diff direction?
i dont think he is waiting around for the british title/ commonwealth will also take long as cox just coming back
ive read cox is gunna fight that spike who beat hall last time out in dec[/quote]
He is a middleweight. Where did you read that?[/quote]
check hook boxing forum[/quote]
Just seen it. What does that mean?? Does he have to vacate the Comm Wealth? I dont think he does, however there could be issues with it still with Sai
Re: english light middle title eliminator
Posted: 11 Oct 2012, 15:41
by safeerah
mcato wrote:maley1984 wrote:Nasser al harbi v jamie ball the rematch gone to purse bids. First fight ended in a draw after a cut to al harbi. Clash of heads or punch claimed by ball that's another argument but get it on ordered by the board
Might be for the title as Hearns has openly said title will be vacated by Ochieng
Yes Mcato, but turns out it was pure bullcrap by them, Nas wanted to fight Ochieng for the English title, but instead of fiighting him they said they would vacate, then the BBB of C sanctioned a fight for the English title on the 20th of November, between Nasser Al Harbi and Max Maxwell, a barnstormer, would have been a great fight, then Ochieng's team asked for time to get Ochieng a different title shot first, we waited and waited, now Ochiengs team have done a turn around and decided to keep the title, but are not fighting Nasser, instead they have said they will fight the winner of the Eliminator between Nas and Jamie Ball, yeh right ! Jamie Ball deserves a chance and if we had won the English title we would have made him our first defense but now we are going backwards again, to where we was at the start of the year, In our first fight with Jamie Ball, Nas won every round, until an accidental clash of heads caused a technical draw ( Yes Maley Accidental class of heads, the fight is on you tube and we even slowed it down to show that the head clash was the last thing before the cut ) Nasser was on the way to victory at the time, though Jamie put up a great performance and kept it competative, we need to put the record straight now. I have not told Nas yet about this latest development, because he had his heart set on winning an English title and defending against Ball, 2 great fights on the trot, because tommorow he fights Mark Lloyd on "the made in Manchester show" so I don't want to disturb his mindset for his fight.
Re: english light middle title eliminator
Posted: 11 Oct 2012, 15:43
by safeerah
maley1984 wrote:Might be for the title as Hearns has openly said title will be vacated by Ochieng
will ochieng be going in for next brit title eliminator or is he going a diff direction?[/quote]
i dont think he is waiting around for the british title/ commonwealth will also take long as cox just coming back[/quote]
ive read cox is gunna fight that spike who beat hall last time out in dec[/quote]
Yes at Middleweight.
Re: english light middle title eliminator
Posted: 11 Oct 2012, 15:48
by mcato
safeerah wrote:mcato wrote:maley1984 wrote:Nasser al harbi v jamie ball the rematch gone to purse bids. First fight ended in a draw after a cut to al harbi. Clash of heads or punch claimed by ball that's another argument but get it on ordered by the board
Might be for the title as Hearns has openly said title will be vacated by Ochieng
Yes Mcato, but turns out it was pure bullcrap by them, Nas wanted to fight Ochieng for the English title, but instead of fiighting him they said they would vacate, then the BBB of C sanctioned a fight for the English title on the 20th of November, between Nasser Al Harbi and Max Maxwell, a barnstormer, would have been a great fight, then Ochieng's team asked for time to get Ochieng a different title shot first, we waited and waited, now Ochiengs team have done a turn around and decided to keep the title, but are not fighting Nasser, instead they have said they will fight the winner of the Eliminator between Nas and Jamie Ball, yeh right ! Jamie Ball deserves a chance and if we had won the English title we would have made him our first defense but now we are going backwards again, to where we was at the start of the year, In our first fight with Jamie Ball, Nas won every round, until an accidental clash of heads caused a technical draw ( Yes Maley Accidental class of heads, the fight is on you tube and we even slowed it down to show that the head clash was the last thing before the cut ) Nasser was on the way to victory at the time, though Jamie put up a great performance and kept it competative, we need to put the record straight now. I have not told Nas yet about this latest development, because he had his heart set on winning an English title and defending against Ball, 2 great fights on the trot, because tommorow he fights Mark Lloyd on "the made in Manchester show" so I don't want to disturb his mindset for his fight.
Its not about title sometimes its exposure. If i was in your shoes I would forget jamie ball and go prizefighter route. So many things will change by the time you have to fight jamie ball (waste of time) and money. Nothing is a done deal until both fighters are in the ring...you know that!
Re: english light middle title eliminator
Posted: 11 Oct 2012, 15:58
by maley1984
i know their is a date end of nov in wolvo not far away and im sure codwell has said he wants to put a dec show on in brum either show wud b good id pay to see it again ive watched the u tube saf it is clear head clash lol cant see ochering waiting for the winner tho.
Re: english light middle title eliminator
Posted: 11 Oct 2012, 16:03
by safeerah
I understand where you are coming from Mcato , not your fault, but playing titles ruins this Industry, Prizefighter is full up at present, they don't want Nas in there anyway. Our team will get together and look at all the cards, Nasser should be british champion by now, but we will have to wait longer. Ochieng got his exposure when he won the English title, eliminators do jack shit, ask Matthew Hall.
Re: english light middle title eliminator
Posted: 11 Oct 2012, 16:05
by mcato
maley1984 wrote:i know their is a date end of nov in wolvo not far away and im sure codwell has said he wants to put a dec show on in brum either show wud b good id pay to see it again ive watched the u tube saf it is clear head clash lol cant see ochering waiting for the winner tho.
Wants to point to wait? why would anyone want to defend English title 3 times
Re: english light middle title eliminator
Posted: 11 Oct 2012, 16:10
by maley1984
mcato wrote:maley1984 wrote:i know their is a date end of nov in wolvo not far away and im sure codwell has said he wants to put a dec show on in brum either show wud b good id pay to see it again ive watched the u tube saf it is clear head clash lol cant see ochering waiting for the winner tho.
Wants to point to wait? why would anyone want to defend English title 3 times
just vacate then already defened it twice fair enough or take the fight that was offered. ocheirng got to b close to a mandatory shot after webb but wud guess the champ will make a vol could b waiting a while hope cox vacates to give him a shot at that title
Re: english light middle title eliminator
Posted: 11 Oct 2012, 16:11
by safeerah
maley1984 wrote:i know their is a date end of nov in wolvo not far away and im sure codwell has said he wants to put a dec show on in brum either show wud b good id pay to see it again ive watched the u tube saf it is clear head clash lol cant see ochering waiting for the winner tho.
Both camp's crowds where great, I was enjoying it myself, was a great fight, Jamie raised his level, so fair play to him, yes it is clear on the video about the headclash, but what we were upset about, was that, it was a very tiny cut, that stopped bleading without any work, so the fight should not have been stopped, Nas had won all the rounds on the judges scorecard and he was getting stronger, your right maley he will just vacate and go for something bigger, then a big promoter will nip in and grab it before us.
Re: english light middle title eliminator
Posted: 11 Oct 2012, 16:12
by maley1984
safeerah wrote:I understand where you are coming from Mcato , not your fault, but playing titles ruins this Industry, Prizefighter is full up at present, they don't want Nas in there anyway. Our team will get together and look at all the cards, Nasser should be british champion by now, but we will have to wait longer. Ochieng got his exposure when he won the English title, eliminators do jack shit, ask Matthew Hall.
great point saf cant believe the scot lad got a shot after losing to hall
Re: english light middle title eliminator
Posted: 11 Oct 2012, 16:20
by safeerah
maley1984 wrote:safeerah wrote:I understand where you are coming from Mcato , not your fault, but playing titles ruins this Industry, Prizefighter is full up at present, they don't want Nas in there anyway. Our team will get together and look at all the cards, Nasser should be british champion by now, but we will have to wait longer. Ochieng got his exposure when he won the English title, eliminators do jack shit, ask Matthew Hall.
great point saf cant believe the scot lad got a shot after losing to hall
When I once asked Robert Smith about Eliminators, he told me, "when you win one it eliminates the other fighter out of the equation for that title, but he forgot to say, that it depends what the big promoters decide to do with it, afterwards.
Re: english light middle title eliminator
Posted: 11 Oct 2012, 16:22
by safeerah
maley1984 wrote:safeerah wrote:I understand where you are coming from Mcato , not your fault, but playing titles ruins this Industry, Prizefighter is full up at present, they don't want Nas in there anyway. Our team will get together and look at all the cards, Nasser should be british champion by now, but we will have to wait longer. Ochieng got his exposure when he won the English title, eliminators do jack shit, ask Matthew Hall.
great point saf cant believe the scot lad got a shot after losing to hall
Yes because Rose's team and promoter did not want Hall, not suprising, when you see what he did in the final eliminator.
Re: english light middle title eliminator
Posted: 11 Oct 2012, 16:27
by mcato
safeerah wrote:maley1984 wrote:safeerah wrote:I understand where you are coming from Mcato , not your fault, but playing titles ruins this Industry, Prizefighter is full up at present, they don't want Nas in there anyway. Our team will get together and look at all the cards, Nasser should be british champion by now, but we will have to wait longer. Ochieng got his exposure when he won the English title, eliminators do jack shit, ask Matthew Hall.
great point saf cant believe the scot lad got a shot after losing to hall
Yes because Rose's team and promoter did not want Hall, not suprising, when you see what he did in the final eliminator.
Ochieng defenfing Eng title a third time.......... i dont think so
Re: english light middle title eliminator
Posted: 11 Oct 2012, 16:38
by maley1984
Yes because Rose's team and promoter did not want Hall, not suprising, when you see what he did in the final eliminator.[/quote]
Ochieng defenfing Eng title a third time.......... i dont think so[/quote]
So why doesn't he vacate so the title so it doesn't get held up then other title fights could b made understand where your coming from about 3rd defence just vacate and look else where for other fights
Re: english light middle title eliminator
Posted: 11 Oct 2012, 16:43
by mcato
maley1984 wrote:Yes because Rose's team and promoter did not want Hall, not suprising, when you see what he did in the final eliminator.
Ochieng defenfing Eng title a third time.......... i dont think so[/quote]
So why doesn't he vacate so the title so it doesn't get held up then other title fights could b made understand where your coming from about 3rd defence just vacate and look else where for other fights[/quote]
waiting for another belt to be available. Now Cox is fighting for WBO Middle weight Inter belt CommonWealth should now be vacant
Re: english light middle title eliminator
Posted: 11 Oct 2012, 16:45
by maley1984
mcato wrote:maley1984 wrote:Yes because Rose's team and promoter did not want Hall, not
So why doesn't he vacate so the title so it doesn't get held up then other title fights could b made understand where your coming from about 3rd defence just vacate and look else where for other fights
waiting for another belt to be available. Now Cox is fighting for WBO Middle weight Inter belt CommonWealth should now be vacant
If he does would the board change ball v nas to vacant title fight?
Re: english light middle title eliminator
Posted: 11 Oct 2012, 16:57
by mcato
maley1984 wrote:mcato wrote:maley1984 wrote:Yes because Rose's team and promoter did not want Hall, not
So why doesn't he vacate so the title so it doesn't get held up then other title fights could b made understand where your coming from about 3rd defence just vacate and look else where for other fights
waiting for another belt to be available. Now Cox is fighting for WBO Middle weight Inter belt CommonWealth should now be vacant
If he does would the board change ball v nas to vacant title fight?
Strong possibility
Re: english light middle title eliminator
Posted: 11 Oct 2012, 17:37
by leforge
Talkischeap wrote:mcato wrote:maley1984 wrote:Yes because Rose's team and promoter did not want Hall, not suprising, when you see what he did in the final eliminator.
Ochieng defenfing Eng title a third time.......... i dont think so
So why doesn't he vacate so the title so it doesn't get held up then other title fights could b made understand where your coming from about 3rd defence just vacate and look else where for other fights
waiting for another belt to be available. Now Cox is fighting for WBO Middle weight Inter belt CommonWealth should now be vacant[/quote]
Jamie is making the most of the opportunities infront of him. We still want to set the record straight with Obodai Sai so anyone wanting the Commonwealth belt are going to have to come & get it[/quote]
Cox if not fighting Sai should be stripped.