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Why do Boxing experts rate Tyson Fury BUT fans don't?
Posted: 23 Oct 2012, 16:18
by Maxsplit
Adam Booth tweeted last week, that he'd favour Tyson Fury to beat David Price if they fought now.
Emanuel Steward rates Tyson Fury as the best young heavyweight and the most likely heir to the Klitschkos throne when they retire, and he has met and spent time with both Fury & David Price.
In Boxing News this week, they asked 4 experts who you would pick if Price fought Fury and 1 went with Price, 1 went with Fury and 2 were 50/50.
YET ...
If you were to post a poll on this forum it would be 85/15 in Price's favour
What is it that Boxing experts see quite clearly in Fury/ worry about with Price - that the average fans can't notice??
Re: Why do Boxing experts rate Tyson Fury BUT fans don't?
Posted: 23 Oct 2012, 16:21
by SAPFO
They have met and spoke to Fury, they are associated with him, therefore they back him. If Price can weather the early storm he will sink Fury mid to late. Fury is 50% of what he could be.
Re: Why do Boxing experts rate Tyson Fury BUT fans don't?
Posted: 23 Oct 2012, 16:25
by Maxsplit
carlbcfc wrote:They have met and spoke to Fury, they are associated with him, therefore they back him. If Price can weather the early storm he will sink Fury mid to late. Fury is 50% of what he could be.
I thought David Haye & Adam Booth used to promote David Price??

Re: Why do Boxing experts rate Tyson Fury BUT fans don't?
Posted: 23 Oct 2012, 16:33
by clintonmcphilbin
carlbcfc wrote:They have met and spoke to Fury, they are associated with him, therefore they back him. If Price can weather the early storm he will sink Fury mid to late. Fury is 50% of what he could be.
Adam booth was price pro coach
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HKf3MxE_58
Re: Why do Boxing experts rate Tyson Fury BUT fans don't?
Posted: 23 Oct 2012, 16:40
by hurlock
We are the experts!
Steward would rather big up a tomatoe can then a dangerous man, who will not be fed,but set on to the kilts if they choose to reign.
Booth just wants to instill confidence, so fury takes the fight & gets mullerd.or there may be malice over leaks of his & Hayes sparring sessions??
Re: Why do Boxing experts rate Tyson Fury BUT fans don't?
Posted: 23 Oct 2012, 16:54
by funso banjo baby
the 'experts' have seen fury
a) punch himself in the face
b) in trouble twice against the 6ft Chisora
c) almost ko'd by Firtha
d) floored and almost stopped by Pajkic
probably explains why heavyweight boxing is in such a bad way.
Price will win this if he connects with one decent right !!!!!
BELIEVE
Re: Why do Boxing experts rate Tyson Fury BUT fans don't?
Posted: 23 Oct 2012, 16:57
by Final round
hurlock wrote:We are the experts!
Steward would rather big up a tomatoe can then a dangerous man, who will not be fed,but set on to the kilts if they choose to reign.
Booth just wants to instill confidence, so fury takes the fight & gets mullerd.or there may be malice over leaks of his & Hayes sparring sessions??

Re: Why do Boxing experts rate Tyson Fury BUT fans don't?
Posted: 23 Oct 2012, 17:02
by stevieb_8006
cos boxing fans are like old women in a knitting circle that love a pantomine villian.
Re: Why do Boxing experts rate Tyson Fury BUT fans don't?
Posted: 23 Oct 2012, 17:06
by Maxsplit
[quote="funso banjo baby"]the 'experts' have seen fury
a) punch himself in the face
b) in trouble twice against the 6ft Chisora
c) almost ko'd by Firtha
d) floored and almost stopped by Pajkic
probably explains why heavyweight boxing is in such a bad way.
Price will win this if he connects with one decent right !!!!!
BELIEVE[/quote]
Haha!
This read quite well until the last line, where you Braveheart style shout 'believe'!
Which is the clarion call of a man trying to convince/delude himself!
I'm pretty sure Audley was tweeting something similar everyday in the run up to his Price fight.
There has to be reasons why the layman boxing fan favours Price, but you'll struggle to find any expert/ professional who agrees

Re: Why do Boxing experts rate Tyson Fury BUT fans don't?
Posted: 23 Oct 2012, 18:26
by lillywhite14
hurlock wrote:We are the experts!
Steward would rather big up a tomatoe can then a dangerous man, who will not be fed,but set on to the kilts if they choose to reign.
Booth just wants to instill confidence, so fury takes the fight & gets mullerd.or there may be malice over leaks of his & Hayes sparring sessions??
The Price hype train is in danger of getting out of control.
I think he beats Fury but honestly, Wlad would take his head off his shoulders. Haye probably would as well.
Re: Why do Boxing experts rate Tyson Fury BUT fans don't?
Posted: 23 Oct 2012, 18:38
by loaded_gloves
Exactly which boxing experts rate Fury?
Who are they?
Re: Why do Boxing experts rate Tyson Fury BUT fans don't?
Posted: 23 Oct 2012, 18:55
by Maxsplit
loaded_gloves wrote:Exactly which boxing experts rate Fury?
Who are they?
- Emanuel Steward
- Adam Booth
- Johnny Nelson
- Freddy Roach
- Eddie Chambers
- John McDermott
That's 6 for starters
TBF though, Tony Bellew is CERTAIN Price will win easily.
He also is 100% sure that Fury 'pushed' Price to the floor when they fought in the ams:_
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FToTaFBpdx4

Re: Why do Boxing experts rate Tyson Fury BUT fans don't?
Posted: 23 Oct 2012, 18:58
by jameswilson
Maxsplit wrote:loaded_gloves wrote:Exactly which boxing experts rate Fury?
Who are they?
- Emanuel Steward
- Adam Booth
- Johnny Nelson
- Freddy Roach
- Angelo Dundee
- John McDermott
That's 6 for starters

John McDermott is definately on a par with the rest of those guys isn't he.
Re: Why do Boxing experts rate Tyson Fury BUT fans don't?
Posted: 23 Oct 2012, 18:58
by loaded_gloves
Dundee is dead and has been for some time. When exactly did he rate Fury?
What is John McDermott an expert in? Not getting in shape? Not giving your all? Losing?
Was Adam Booth not marketing? When did Roach say he 'rated' Fury?
CITATIONS, please.
Max Schemlling. Bennie Briscoe. Stanley Ketchel. Julian Jackson. Carlos Monzon. These men all 'rate' me as Boxrec's greatest ever poster. There. A list of names for you with no back up.
Re: Why do Boxing experts rate Tyson Fury BUT fans don't?
Posted: 23 Oct 2012, 19:08
by Maxsplit
Emanuel Steward:
http://news.boxrec.com/news/2011/stewar ... -klitschko
Adam Booth: Adam Booth @boxingbooth
@Tyson_Fury V David Price is another fight to fill a football stadium. Big £'s. if it happened now I'd pick Fury to win.
It's very late, so I can't be fussed to trawl the internet for the other citations ... you clearly have internet access, just type in the names I mentioned and Tyson Fury David Price etc. and you will find the quotes
Obviously they might ALL be wrong about Fury, and some boxing forum posters have a better insight.
But I doubt it.
Re: Why do Boxing experts rate Tyson Fury BUT fans don't?
Posted: 23 Oct 2012, 19:54
by Karl Jade
Everything Adam Booth says has strategy attached to it. He might be a good bloke away from boxing but everything that publically comes out of his mouth filters through a financial veneer. What he says publically doesn't mean a thing.
And Manny Stewart? The guy tries to be all things to all men and always has. These words mean nowt.
Re: Why do Boxing experts rate Tyson Fury BUT fans don't?
Posted: 23 Oct 2012, 20:08
by jameswilson
loaded_gloves wrote:Dundee is dead and has been for some time. When exactly did he rate Fury?
What is John McDermott an expert in? Not getting in shape? Not giving your all? Losing?
Was Adam Booth not marketing? When did Roach say he 'rated' Fury?
CITATIONS, please.
Max Schemlling. Bennie Briscoe. Stanley Ketchel. Julian Jackson. Carlos Monzon. These men all 'rate' me as Boxrec's greatest ever poster. There. A list of names for you with no back up.
You forgot to add James Wilson to the end of that list.
Re: Why do Boxing experts rate Tyson Fury BUT fans don't?
Posted: 24 Oct 2012, 03:34
by Ketchel
loaded_gloves wrote:Dundee is dead and has been for some time. When exactly did he rate Fury?
What is John McDermott an expert in? Not getting in shape? Not giving your all? Losing?
Was Adam Booth not marketing? When did Roach say he 'rated' Fury?
CITATIONS, please.
Max Schemlling. Bennie Briscoe. Stanley Ketchel. Julian Jackson. Carlos Monzon. These men all 'rate' me as Boxrec's greatest ever poster. There. A list of names for you with no back up.
I must agree, you are the best greatest poster.
Re: Why do Boxing experts rate Tyson Fury BUT fans don't?
Posted: 24 Oct 2012, 07:05
by hurlock
lillywhite14 wrote:hurlock wrote:We are the experts!
Steward would rather big up a tomatoe can then a dangerous man, who will not be fed,but set on to the kilts if they choose to reign.
Booth just wants to instill confidence, so fury takes the fight & gets mullerd.or there may be malice over leaks of his & Hayes sparring sessions??
The Price hype train is in danger of getting out of control.
I think he beats Fury but honestly, Wlad would take his head off his shoulders. Haye probably would as well.
There is allway's hype behind successful professional rookies. I'm not implying price beats wlad but once he is more seasoned,he has the ability & attributes to make a credible challenge.im aware he could face set backs like wlad did against inter class pro like purity & I think his jaw may be abit vunrable but I did with haye & khan & they got there
Re: Why do Boxing experts rate Tyson Fury BUT fans don't?
Posted: 24 Oct 2012, 08:43
by sharpei_louis
Maxsplit wrote:Emanuel Steward:
http://news.boxrec.com/news/2011/stewar ... -klitschko
Adam Booth: Adam Booth @boxingbooth
@Tyson_Fury V David Price is another fight to fill a football stadium. Big £'s. if it happened now I'd pick Fury to win.
It's very late, so I can't be fussed to trawl the internet for the other citations ... you clearly have internet access, just type in the names I mentioned and Tyson Fury David Price etc. and you will find the quotes
Obviously they might ALL be wrong about Fury, and some boxing forum posters have a better insight.
But I doubt it.
You have to be fair and acknowledge that quoting a dead man on a subject he would not have been able to comment on does undermine your argument somewhat.....?
Re: Why do Boxing experts rate Tyson Fury BUT fans don't?
Posted: 24 Oct 2012, 09:21
by TopGun
Who is the better fighter. Easy to answer; who would you not want to fight if you had to?
I would rather fight Tyson than Price any day of the week. Tyson is not as tidy or as heavy handed. In fact I think I'd take him into the latter rounds and KO him......bish bash bosh.
Price is way better.

Re: Why do Boxing experts rate Tyson Fury BUT fans don't?
Posted: 24 Oct 2012, 09:25
by Lenny
Maxsplit wrote:loaded_gloves wrote:Exactly which boxing experts rate Fury?
Who are they?
- Emanuel Steward
- Adam Booth
- Johnny Nelson
- Freddy Roach
- Eddie Chambers
- John McDermott
That's 6 for starters
TBF though, Tony Bellew is CERTAIN Price will win easily.
He also is 100% sure that Fury 'pushed' Price to the floor when they fought in the ams:_
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FToTaFBpdx4

Freddie Roach wrote:“Price has the size [to give the Klitschko brothers trouble], but he’s still young,” said Roach, 52, a native of Dedham (Mass.) who was voted Trainer of the Year on four occasions by the Boxing Writers Association of America. “Price is a much better fighter than Tyson Fury at this point. He’s not mechanical like Tyson Fury, so I like Price a little bit better. At heavyweight one punch can change everything. That’s the one thing about [Wladimir] Klitschko, he can knock you out with one punch. He can punch when he wants to.”
Re: Why do Boxing experts rate Tyson Fury BUT fans don't?
Posted: 24 Oct 2012, 12:03
by funso banjo baby
chambers and mcdermot are most definately not experts
Re: Why do Boxing experts rate Tyson Fury BUT fans don't?
Posted: 24 Oct 2012, 18:20
by pablothunder
IMO Fury's jab looks better the more I see it. While Price has spectacular power, Fury has proper Heavyweight power too and given that one punch is all it takes, the jab is the best starting point.
I guess that's why they're favouring him.
Re: Why do Boxing experts rate Tyson Fury BUT fans don't?
Posted: 24 Oct 2012, 18:48
by Peter Parker
Maxsplit wrote:Adam Booth tweeted last week, that he'd favour Tyson Fury to beat David Price if they fought now.
Emanuel Steward rates Tyson Fury as the best young heavyweight and the most likely heir to the Klitschkos throne when they retire, and he has met and spent time with both Fury & David Price.
In Boxing News this week, they asked 4 experts who you would pick if Price fought Fury and 1 went with Price, 1 went with Fury and 2 were 50/50.
YET ...
If you were to post a poll on this forum it would be 85/15 in Price's favour
What is it that Boxing experts see quite clearly in Fury/ worry about with Price - that the average fans can't notice??
fury is a good fighter, don't forget he beat Chisora, Price has not beaten a live opponent like that