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Ken Buchanan vs...

Posted: 28 Oct 2012, 09:42
by Counter-puncher
Arguello 15 rounds?
Chavez 12 rounds?
Marquez 12 rounds?

I think they'd all be good-great fights.

Arguello I'm pretty sure would have to cede the early going to Buchanan's box'nmove tactics, keeping Arguello's right hand quiet with the double and triple jabs, pivoting and stepping off them, sometimes stepping in with quick combinations to the body after the straight right hand, but generally trying to jab and potshot from the outside and stop Arguello from planting his feet.

Arguello, though, would be thumping in those right uppercuts under the jab and into Buchanan's ribcage, as well as having success countering Buchanan's left with his own excellent left hook, and Buchanan's good feet would start to become less of a factor as the middle rounds progressed. exchanges would become more and more frequent as Buchanan would have to hold his feet more and more, and whilst he is landing as frequently as El Flaco, who on earth ever exchanged punches with Alexis without getting their face re-arranged?

I'm guessing Buchanan might still have a points lead going into the last 5 rounds, but Arguello has the momentum and begins to find the range with the right hand, backing Buchanan up, sometimes cornering him on the ropes and targetting the body.

I take Arguello in a close one, possibly scoring a stoppage on facial damage or winning a close one by near-sweeping the late rounds.

vs Chavez I think would be all kinds of epic as a contest and stylistic match. Chavez could always be thwarted somewhat by a decent jabber-mover, which again I think bodes well for Buchanan in the early going. Chavez can't simply overwhelm Buchanan with physicality as Duran did, and I think Buchanan's footwork would mean he would be able to contest a good part of the first 6 rounds in or near centre ring. If Chavez can't get him on the ropes to unload I think he'd end up having to eat a lot of jabs in order to get inside, and Buchanan's sucess in making it a medium-long range contest means he gets to the halfway stage with a lead of a couple of points.

whilst a fairly common script for chavez vs the boxer type was for him to take over at halfway and grind the guy down, given Buchanan's proven track record of stamina over 15 rounds, and the volume of abuse he was able to absorb against Duran without capitulating, I'm not sure this one is as clear-cut. likely, Chavez rolls the dice in pushing the tempo up and repeatedly taking-one-to-land-one, hoping his chin holds up better and his better bodypunching and more spiteful one-punch power turn the tide of the fight just slightly his way in the last 6 rounds.

S/D either way, first of a trilogy better and more competitive than Duran-Dejesus

vs Marquez would be all kinds of skillful. I like Buchanan in the style matchup, notwithstanding Marquez's harder, sharper punching.

Re: Ken Buchanan vs...

Posted: 14 Nov 2012, 00:50
by elmersalsa
I believe that Ken Buchanan could win all those 3 fights. He had the jab and movement to do it.

Re: Ken Buchanan vs...

Posted: 15 Nov 2012, 14:05
by yiddle
arguello and buchanan is a close fight but i will edge toward buchanan in a very close fight
chavez and buchanan i go for chavez to get close and out work buchanan to take a close decision but would not be surprised to see buchanan win a rematch
marquez and buchanan again is a good fight but i like buchanan here to win a decision 8-4

Re: Ken Buchanan vs...

Posted: 15 Nov 2012, 21:23
by Rover
cpss68 wrote:arguello and buchanan is a close fight but i will edge toward buchanan in a very close fight
chavez and buchanan i go for chavez to get close and out work buchanan to take a close decision but would not be surprised to see buchanan win a rematch
marquez and buchanan again is a good fight but i like buchanan here to win a decision 8-4
I'd slightly favor Arguello over 15.
I think Buchanan would decision Marquez in a close, tactical fight.
I think JCC would eek it out over 12.

Re: Ken Buchanan vs...

Posted: 16 Nov 2012, 05:03
by Counter-puncher
thanks. they're matchups I like to imagine. :TU:

Re: Ken Buchanan vs...

Posted: 16 Nov 2012, 05:09
by Rover
Counter-puncher wrote:thanks. they're matchups I like to imagine. :TU:
Excellent choices.
:bow:

Re: Ken Buchanan vs...

Posted: 16 Nov 2012, 12:55
by Datsue
Counter-puncher wrote:thanks. they're matchups I like to imagine. :TU:
Yep fantastic choices.

I'm with you, Arguello gets to Buchanan late (facial damage as you said), Chavez squeaks by him (possibility of reversing it in the rematch) & Marquez as much as I love him would spend too long fecking about vs Buchanan, who would I think be smart enough to minimise the exchanges & win an 8-4 type decision.

But great fights bruv.

:TU:

Re: Ken Buchanan vs...

Posted: 16 Nov 2012, 13:11
by Rover
Datsue wrote:
Counter-puncher wrote:thanks. they're matchups I like to imagine. :TU:
Yep fantastic choices.

I'm with you, Arguello gets to Buchanan late (facial damage as you said), Chavez squeaks by him (possibility of reversing it in the rematch) & Marquez as much as I love him would spend too long fecking about vs Buchanan, who would I think be smart enough to minimise the exchanges & win an 8-4 type decision.

But great fights bruv.

:TU:
I think Buchanan would make it 15 with the LW Alexis, as Watt did. Alexis was a little past it at that weight.
The guys he stopped came at him (Mancini, Ganigan, Elizondo) or weren't nearly as good boxers as Buchanan (Busceme).
Buchanan made it into the 13th with a prime Duran; think he'd last the distance with a slightly past it Alexis.

Re: Ken Buchanan vs...

Posted: 16 Nov 2012, 13:40
by Counter-puncher
Datsue wrote:[Marquez as much as I love him would spend too long fecking about vs Buchanan, who would I think be smart enough to minimise the exchanges & win an 8-4 type decision.
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aye. Marquez thinking and weighing things up, Buchanan jabbing and making him re-set.