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one world champ, eight weights
Posted: 12 Mar 2004, 10:36
by knockout
heres something for you guys..
assuming boxing hadnt changed since the 60's and we had 1 champ at each of the 8 weights , who do you think would be boss in each division
Heavyweight - Vacant
Light Heavyweight - Roy Jones
Middleweight - Bernard Hopkins
Welterweight - Shane Mosley
Lightweight - floyd mayweather
Featherweight - erik morales
Bantamweight - Rafael Marquez
Flyweight - Jorge Arce
You could also factor in same day weigh ins......
The only people that would have a chance to keep there title if that was bought in would be Hopkins and RJJ if he hadnt started on the steriods!!!!
Re: one world champ, eight weights
Posted: 12 Mar 2004, 10:57
by bennie
knockout wrote:heres something for you guys..
assuming boxing hadnt changed since the 60's and we had 1 champ at each of the 8 weights , who do you think would be boss in each division
Heavyweight - Vacant
Light Heavyweight - Roy Jones
Middleweight - Bernard Hopkins
Welterweight - Shane Mosley
Lightweight - floyd mayweather
Featherweight - erik morales
Bantamweight - Rafael Marquez
Flyweight - Jorge Arce
You could also factor in same day weigh ins......
The only people that would have a chance to keep there title if that was bought in would be Hopkins and RJJ if he hadnt started on the steriods!!!!
Top post. This will take some serious consideration. Bernard Hopkins and Jones are the only certainties; perhaps Mayweather, too.
Again, great post.
Re: one world champ, eight weights
Posted: 12 Mar 2004, 10:59
by Kilburn
I'd take Pacquiao to dethrone Morales at featherweight. Definitely.
Posted: 12 Mar 2004, 10:59
by REAL_DEAL
if it was the british verison who do you tihnk would be the top welterweight?
maybe hatton, sinclair or kwaliq
Re: one world champ, eight weights
Posted: 12 Mar 2004, 11:01
by knockout
Kilburn wrote:I'd take Pacquiao to dethrone Morales at featherweight. Definitely.
yep, that is a strong possibilty!!!
Posted: 12 Mar 2004, 11:05
by knockout
REAL_DEAL wrote:if it was the british verison who do you tihnk would be the top welterweight?
maybe hatton, sinclair or kwaliq
Takaloo could probably have done welterweight so would be serious consideration....
couldnt imagine Hatton beating Sinclair or khaliq...
Posted: 12 Mar 2004, 11:41
by dondada
Yes - super post. The same day weigh in would make an unbelievable difference.
My views:
Heavyweight - Vitali Klitschko
Light-heavyweight - Roy Jones Jr
Middleweight - Bernard Hopkins
Welterweight - Miguel Cotto (I've got to find somewhere for him!)
Lightweight - Floyd Mayweather
Featherweight - Manny Pacquiao
Bantamweight - Rafael Marquez
Flyweight - Irene Pacheco
Not many shocks, I know. One belt would make for some great match ups...if only!
Posted: 12 Mar 2004, 12:32
by Chambers
Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:
Heavyweight - Vitali Klitschko
Light-heavyweight - Roy Jones Jr
Middleweight - Bernard Hopkins
Welterweight - Miguel Cotto (I've got to find somewhere for him!)
Lightweight - Floyd Mayweather
Featherweight - Manny Pacquiao
Bantamweight - Rafael Marquez
Flyweight - Irene Pacheco
Can't argue with that
Posted: 12 Mar 2004, 12:41
by bennie
Cotto as undisputed welter champ is premature IMO. There's already an undisputed champ at the weight in Cory Spinks. That must count for something today.
Posted: 12 Mar 2004, 12:44
by stujones
Heavyweight - vacant untill Klitchko vs Sanders.
Light Heavy - Roy Jones.
Middle - Bernard Hopkins.
Welter - Shane Moseley (just)
Lightweight - Acelino Freitas (with Mayweather moving up)
Feather - Pacquiao.
Bantam - Marquez (a certanty for me).
Flyweight - Too sharp Johnson.
Posted: 12 Mar 2004, 12:54
by Kilburn
I'd take the power-punching Acre over Pacheco.
Okay the Mexican is a light-fly champ right now but he probably ought to be fighting at bantam.
Re: one world champ, eight weights
Posted: 12 Mar 2004, 14:29
by adamiw
knockout wrote:heres something for you guys..
assuming boxing hadnt changed since the 60's and we had 1 champ at each of the 8 weights , who do you think would be boss in each division
Heavyweight - Vacant
Light Heavyweight - Roy Jones
Middleweight - Bernard Hopkins
Welterweight - Shane Mosley
Lightweight - floyd mayweather
Featherweight - erik morales
Bantamweight - Rafael Marquez
Flyweight - Jorge Arce
You could also factor in same day weigh ins......
The only people that would have a chance to keep there title if that was bought in would be Hopkins and RJJ if he hadnt started on the steriods!!!!
fantastic list agree with all but one. At flyweight i'd have Irene Pacheco. Have seen Arce 3 or 4 times, his power is very impressive but he doesn't look as complete as Pacheco the guy who looked simply awesome knocking out Damien Kelly. I was so impressed, and the wins on his record are IMO superior to those on Arce's.
Posted: 12 Mar 2004, 15:41
by ArtOfWar
Heavyweight - Vacant
Light Heavyweight - "Reluctant" Roy
Middleweight - Bernard Hopkins
Welterweight - Vernon Forrest
Lightweight - Floyd Mayweather
Featherweight - Juan Manual Marquez
Bantamweight - Rafael Marquez
Flyweight - Jorce Arce
I ranked Forrest as the best welterweight, because I believe Mosley would fight at middleweight, if he had to choose at this point in his career. I put Marquez as champ at featherweight, because Morales said he could never make featherweight again. So I assume he would fight at lightweight. At flyweight I haven't seen Pacheco, so I had to go with the guy I have seen, Jorce Arce.
Posted: 12 Mar 2004, 21:41
by Southpaw Stylist
Putting Cotto there is dumb.
I'm a big Cotto fan and believer, but he still hasn't beaten any top 10 contender. Even Juan Valenzuela won't be good enough, he must beat Gatti, Harris or N'dou first.
Posted: 13 Mar 2004, 05:41
by dondada
Premature rather than dumb. I'm envisaging who would come out in the shake up if everyone had to go against each other. I really like Cotto - I try not to jump on bandwagons because they easily fall over but I'm firmly on Cotto's. Potential over practice at the minute though.
Re: one world champ, eight weights
Posted: 13 Mar 2004, 09:10
by Goz
knockout wrote:Kilburn wrote:I'd take Pacquiao to dethrone Morales at featherweight. Definitely.
yep, that is a strong possibilty!!!
We'll see, Pac is flying from one superb performance against a Barerra who looked shot, time will tell how good Pac is but we may be going overboard on Manny, personally I think MAB made him look stunning.
If the fight were announced tomorrow my money would be on Morales finding a way to win.
Good thread Matt...
Hopkins Middleweight champ without a doubt, and Roy Jones at LH too.