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SET BACK FOR WHYTE!
Posted: 06 Nov 2012, 17:09
by fightersinc
On route to a London Press Conference to the biggest fight of his young career, 24 year old Dillian Whyte received a phone call from UK Anti Doping. The news that traces of a banned substance officially named methylhexaneamine (DMAA) was found in recent samples shocked the Brixton Heavyweight prospect and his team.
Following a number of telephone conversations with a UKAD official, British Boxing Board Of Control & promoter Frank Maloney a decision not to appear at the press conference for the English Heavyweight Title against John Mcdermott was made.
All fingers point to a pre-work out drink named JACK3D which Whyte used in the lead up to his last bout unaware that the product had been banned from stores in the UK only weeks before.
Dillian Whyte and his team will be fully co-orperating with UKAD & The British Boxing Board Of Control in the coming weeks, a disheartened Whyte said “I have nothing to hide its a genuine mistake and I urge all boxers to double check all ingredients in all pre-workout drinks they take, I would hate to see another boxer make the same mistake I have.”
MHA is not a steroid and is often referred to by other names on supplement containers: 1,3-dimethylamylamine; dimethylamylamine; dimethylpentylamine; DMAA: forthan; forthane; floradrene; geranamine; and geranium oil, Graham Arthur, director of Legal at UK anti-doping was recently quoted “Methylhexaneamine (DMAA) is a banned substance ‘in-competition’ that frequently appears in over the counter and internet bought products but not clearly on the label.”
Joe Long, manager of Whyte said “This is a sickening setback for Dillian and a big lesson to be learnt, we will be meeting with UKAD later this week and hope to come to a conclusion ASAP”
Re: SET BACK FOR WHYTE!
Posted: 06 Nov 2012, 18:52
by Final round
Who banned it from stores?
Re: SET BACK FOR WHYTE!
Posted: 06 Nov 2012, 23:32
by spudder56
The only way to stay clean is not to take any supplements at all its not rocket science anybody taking supplements of any description always runs the risk of finding out at a later date that the supplement contained a banned substance it might have been taken in innocence but i am afraid that is no excuse but having said that if he has taken a banned substance albeit inadvertently it is still no excuse and he must face the consequences whatever they may be Its a minefield and everybody knows the risks involved ( or should do) He has only himself to blame IMO
Re: SET BACK FOR WHYTE!
Posted: 07 Nov 2012, 02:43
by m1kee50
Theres a database for these products, the only honest thing to do is keep checking it, make sure you keep updated on what is and isnt banned, and if you take something that gets banned the next week, put your own hand up to it.
When they ban something, do they issue a warning saying they are considering a ban - i.e that if you have taken it, you then have a grace period in which you are not expected to take any more, and allows time for the substance to leave your body before the ban?
Re: SET BACK FOR WHYTE!
Posted: 07 Nov 2012, 04:06
by mickey1975
Well I knew jack3d was banned and I have a limited knowledge of supplements.
Re: SET BACK FOR WHYTE!
Posted: 07 Nov 2012, 04:28
by london
mickey1975 wrote:Well I knew jack3d was banned and I have a limited knowledge of supplements.
Jack3d was only banned in UK in approx September but has been relaunched as Jack3d micro and this is not banned.
Re: SET BACK FOR WHYTE!
Posted: 07 Nov 2012, 04:30
by mickey1975
london wrote:mickey1975 wrote:Well I knew jack3d was banned and I have a limited knowledge of supplements.
Jack3d was only banned in UK in approx September but has been relaunched as Jack3d micro and this is not banned.
I know!
Re: SET BACK FOR WHYTE!
Posted: 07 Nov 2012, 04:31
by Final round
When they get banned do all fitness shops, stores that sell supplements get updates notifying it's banned and what isn't? If it was banned today how all distributors know? Check the website? just interested.
Re: SET BACK FOR WHYTE!
Posted: 07 Nov 2012, 05:22
by danconnollyeire
Final round wrote:Who banned it from stores?
Basically the government
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/artic ... fects.html
Re: SET BACK FOR WHYTE!
Posted: 07 Nov 2012, 06:38
by Andy
Just been looking on the uk anti doping site
http://www.ukad.org.uk/anti-doping-rule ... iolations/ and it seems that Ryan Barrett was banned for 15 months in April when the very same stimulant was detected in a sample.
Re: SET BACK FOR WHYTE!
Posted: 07 Nov 2012, 06:47
by Final round
Blimey there's some serious side-effects to it and it the ban was big news too. Cheers for that.
Re: SET BACK FOR WHYTE!
Posted: 07 Nov 2012, 06:49
by Final round
there's a fair share of boxers on there...
Re: SET BACK FOR WHYTE!
Posted: 07 Nov 2012, 07:16
by london
Final round wrote:
there's a fair share of boxers on there...
Tony Dodson same thing 5 months ban and Enzo Macrinelli 6 months.
Re: SET BACK FOR WHYTE!
Posted: 07 Nov 2012, 09:45
by The_Don1
No excuse for this one, as a professional sportsman taking supplements it's his responsibility to keep himself updated with what is legal or not, there's enough resources out there for him to check. Ignorance is not an alibi.
Re: SET BACK FOR WHYTE!
Posted: 07 Nov 2012, 09:49
by london
The_Don1 wrote:No excuse for this one, as a professional sportsman taking supplements it's his responsibility to keep himself updated with what is legal or not, there's enough resources out there for him to check. Ignorance is not an alibi.
Alibi? Do you mean defence?
Re: SET BACK FOR WHYTE!
Posted: 07 Nov 2012, 10:20
by Glass Joe
pre supplements are popular in my gym, i just listen to metallica to put myself in the zone.
Re: SET BACK FOR WHYTE!
Posted: 07 Nov 2012, 11:51
by lillywhite14
london wrote:The_Don1 wrote:No excuse for this one, as a professional sportsman taking supplements it's his responsibility to keep himself updated with what is legal or not, there's enough resources out there for him to check. Ignorance is not an alibi.
Alibi? Do you mean defence?
I suspect it's alleged alibi or alleged defence!
Only Whyte and maybe a couple of thers will know if he is telling the truth or not.
Re: SET BACK FOR WHYTE!
Posted: 07 Nov 2012, 11:52
by Glyn Leach
FYI, Whyte gives his side of the story to iFilm London's Kugan's Cassius
http://youtu.be/1iKqgYRqeOU
Re: SET BACK FOR WHYTE!
Posted: 07 Nov 2012, 12:07
by spudder56
lillywhite14 wrote:london wrote:The_Don1 wrote:No excuse for this one, as a professional sportsman taking supplements it's his responsibility to keep himself updated with what is legal or not, there's enough resources out there for him to check. Ignorance is not an alibi.
Alibi? Do you mean defence?
I suspect it's alleged alibi or alleged defence!
Only Whyte and maybe a couple of thers will know if he is telling the truth or not.
If he has tested positive he should be banned full stop ignorance is no defence whatsoever
Re: SET BACK FOR WHYTE!
Posted: 07 Nov 2012, 13:27
by lillywhite14
Well yeah, I tend to agree to be honest. I'm a bit of a cynic anyway when it comes to such matters.
Re: SET BACK FOR WHYTE!
Posted: 07 Nov 2012, 15:02
by TheCobra
Stick to CNP products!! None of this Jack3d crap.
Re: SET BACK FOR WHYTE!
Posted: 07 Nov 2012, 15:14
by TheCobra
Larry Olubamiwo's sample contained:
Substance: Anastrozole, Boldenone, Erythropoietin (EPO), Exemestane, Fluoxymesterone, Human Growth Hormone (hGH), Insulin-like Growth Factor-1, Letrozole, Methandienone, Metribolone (Methyltrienolone), Oxymetholone, Tamoxifen, Testosterone, Trenbolone
Wow!!
Re: SET BACK FOR WHYTE!
Posted: 07 Nov 2012, 15:46
by Final round
TheCobra wrote:Larry Olubamiwo's sample contained:
Substance: Anastrozole, Boldenone, Erythropoietin (EPO), Exemestane, Fluoxymesterone, Human Growth Hormone (hGH), Insulin-like Growth Factor-1, Letrozole, Methandienone, Metribolone (Methyltrienolone), Oxymetholone, Tamoxifen, Testosterone, Trenbolone
Wow!!
Was there any piss/blood amongst all that!?
Re: SET BACK FOR WHYTE!
Posted: 07 Nov 2012, 17:00
by lillywhite14
Re: SET BACK FOR WHYTE!
Posted: 07 Nov 2012, 17:48
by jonp
TheCobra wrote:Stick to CNP products!! None of this Jack3d crap.
There has never been anyone testing positive on CNP products. British Racing use them and they are super strict.