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Kevin Mitchell still not been paid

Posted: 08 Nov 2012, 09:18
by righthook
Has any1 seen on twitter that Mitchell has still not been paid by mr w. he says he is still waiting and how long ha it been since his figh.

People will start to hear more of these stories soon I believe

Re: Kevin Mitchell still not been paid

Posted: 08 Nov 2012, 09:27
by danconnollyeire
righthook wrote:Has any1 seen on twitter that Mitchell has still not been paid by mr w. he says he is still waiting and how long ha it been since his figh.

People will start to hear more of these stories soon I believe
He pays the fighters he cares about (Clev, Burns)
The fighters that are just cannon fodder or he thinks aren't world beaters don't get paid (Bellew, Mitchell)

Re: Kevin Mitchell still not been paid

Posted: 08 Nov 2012, 09:43
by SteveDow
Disgraceful if true and not the first time it has happened! Just don't know how FW gets away with this rubbish!

Re: Kevin Mitchell still not been paid

Posted: 08 Nov 2012, 09:46
by dondada
SteveDow wrote:Disgraceful if true and not the first time it has happened! Just don't know how FW gets away with this rubbish!
If true, the fighter needs to make a complaint to the Board! Use the proper channels! Get motherfudging Rumpole on to it!

Re: Kevin Mitchell still not been paid

Posted: 08 Nov 2012, 10:01
by righthook
danconnollyeire wrote:
righthook wrote:Has any1 seen on twitter that Mitchell has still not been paid by mr w. he says he is still waiting and how long ha it been since his figh.

People will start to hear more of these stories soon I believe
He pays the fighters he cares about (Clev, Burns)
The fighters that are just cannon fodder or he thinks aren't world beaters don't get paid (Bellew, Mitchell)
No mate you obviously know nothing on the matter coz if u did u would know that even the fighters who r his so called big fighters have pulled out of fights through not getting paid!!!!!!! well so iv heard hmmmmmmmm

Re: Kevin Mitchell still not been paid

Posted: 08 Nov 2012, 10:12
by danconnollyeire
righthook wrote:well so iv heard hmmmmmmmm
ok

Re: Kevin Mitchell still not been paid

Posted: 08 Nov 2012, 10:12
by Counter-puncher
if any of these allegations hold water, would it be a fair inference that certain boxing promoters seem to be fairly hand-to-mouth in terms of their cashflow nowadays?

Re: Kevin Mitchell still not been paid

Posted: 08 Nov 2012, 13:12
by TopGun
2 sides to every story. I suspect we will hear from Frank very soon. Bit unprofessional to put this on twitter whilst he is still signed to FW in my opinion. If I was owed money by someone and after chasing the money and still not getting paid by a certain date then I would go straight to the courts to get this money which will cost Kevin nothing to do so.

Like I said 2 sides to every story.

FW please tell us your side??

Re: Kevin Mitchell still not been paid

Posted: 08 Nov 2012, 14:55
by liamlion
TopGun wrote:2 sides to every story. I suspect we will hear from Frank very soon. Bit unprofessional to put this on twitter whilst he is still signed to FW in my opinion. If I was owed money by someone and after chasing the money and still not getting paid by a certain date then I would go straight to the courts to get this money which will cost Kevin nothing to do so.

Like I said 2 sides to every story.

FW please tell us your side??
Can you explain to us all, how Mitchell, or anyone else for that matter, could attempt to recover thousands of pounds through the civil courts with no risk of costs or expense...

Re: Kevin Mitchell still not been paid

Posted: 08 Nov 2012, 15:05
by tear up
Shocking story if true with Mitchell the board should stop this if its true give a dead line in the contract when to be paid in full

Re: Kevin Mitchell still not been paid

Posted: 08 Nov 2012, 15:13
by spudder56
tear up wrote:Shocking story if true with Mitchell the board should stop this if its true give a dead line in the contract when to be paid in full

I agree he should be paid immeadiately But Probably he has signed a private contract with Bunnys company which is outside the Boards Remit Look what happened to Calzaghe he signed a contract with Bunnys old company and when he won the case the company folded

Re: Kevin Mitchell still not been paid

Posted: 08 Nov 2012, 15:35
by Final round
Boss don't pay you, tell the world on twitter.?
Smart move by Kev there another fighter in the wilderness.
Tony was paid it all came out in the end. DeGale was paid well

Re: Kevin Mitchell still not been paid

Posted: 08 Nov 2012, 15:37
by leforge
Final round wrote:Boss don't pay you, tell the world on twitter.?
Smart move by Kev there another fighter in the wilderness.
Tony was paid it all came out in the end. DeGale was paid well
Think your wrong mate , how long did it take to get paid. The board rules are within 7 days someone else can clarify this.

Re: Kevin Mitchell still not been paid

Posted: 08 Nov 2012, 15:41
by leforge
The Dark Destroyer wrote:
leforge wrote:
Final round wrote:Boss don't pay you, tell the world on twitter.?
Smart move by Kev there another fighter in the wilderness.
Tony was paid it all came out in the end. DeGale was paid well
Think your wrong mate , how long did it take to get paid. The board rules are within 7 days someone else can clarify this.
The articles said Bellew was paid, and actually owed FW money. It's starting to look like a way of getting away from your promoter.
Your wrong mate. Tony owed his manager fee for Mcintosh fight. That does not mean he was paid on time for previous fights.

Re: Kevin Mitchell still not been paid

Posted: 08 Nov 2012, 15:48
by Adamj1987
surly you should have to be paid within a week

Re: Kevin Mitchell still not been paid

Posted: 08 Nov 2012, 15:53
by dondada
The Dark Destroyer wrote:How am I wrong? I'm telling you what I read in the articles about it. It's the articles that would be wrong. So the facts are Bellew wasn't paid on time, so why did the case find he was paid then, or do they mean he was paid (eventually)?
I think he was paid, eventually. Bellew had to pay the bloke 20% of his purse for his fight with McIntosh.

More importantly, Bellew got out of his boxer-manager agreement with him because FW was found to be in serious breach of this when Dean Powell, acting as his agent, told Bellew he had to give up his Commonwealth title to get a shot at Cleverly. This wasn't true.

Re: Kevin Mitchell still not been paid

Posted: 08 Nov 2012, 15:58
by tear up
Adamj1987 wrote:surly you should have to be paid within a week
Well I got paid 6 weeks after the booth fight with Maloney hell say I'm wrong but I got the cheque 6 weeks later in my name so what was the hold up ill never no

Re: Kevin Mitchell still not been paid

Posted: 08 Nov 2012, 16:06
by 15829
The Dark Destroyer wrote:How am I wrong? I'm telling you what I read in the articles about it. It's the articles that would be wrong. So the facts are Bellew wasn't paid on time, so why did the case find he was paid then, or do they mean he was paid (eventually)?

Your'e not wrong but your spoiling everyone's fun of taking the piss out of Warren with the truth shame on you :wink:

Re: Kevin Mitchell still not been paid

Posted: 08 Nov 2012, 16:12
by dondada
The Dark Destroyer wrote:
dondada wrote:
The Dark Destroyer wrote:How am I wrong? I'm telling you what I read in the articles about it. It's the articles that would be wrong. So the facts are Bellew wasn't paid on time, so why did the case find he was paid then, or do they mean he was paid (eventually)?
I think he was paid, eventually. Bellew had to pay the bloke 20% of his purse for his fight with McIntosh.

More importantly, Bellew got out of his boxer-manager agreement with him because FW was found to be in serious breach of this when Dean Powell, acting as his agent, told Bellew he had to give up his Commonwealth title to get a shot at Cleverly. This wasn't true.
Yeah, I remember that part. Seemed harsh to me, as it could have been a genuine mistake due to confusion with other titles.
Very hospitable of you, DD. Interesting, though, that it ended up being contested by Ovill and Jeff Evans on an otherwise no mark allegedly show in Halifax merely weeks later. I believe the CBC were told that Bellew had vacated to keep it moving and give other boxers a chance - that wasn't true. The QCs didn't share your hospitable view - as I understand it, anyway.

Terry Dooley did some excellent reporting on this.

Re: Kevin Mitchell still not been paid

Posted: 08 Nov 2012, 16:13
by dondada
diggler wrote:
The Dark Destroyer wrote:How am I wrong? I'm telling you what I read in the articles about it. It's the articles that would be wrong. So the facts are Bellew wasn't paid on time, so why did the case find he was paid then, or do they mean he was paid (eventually)?

Your'e not wrong but your spoiling everyone's fun of taking the piss out of Warren with the truth shame on you :wink:
The case wasn't about whether Bellew had been paid.

Re: Kevin Mitchell still not been paid

Posted: 08 Nov 2012, 16:14
by Adamj1987
tear up wrote:
Adamj1987 wrote:surly you should have to be paid within a week
Well I got paid 6 weeks after the booth fight with Maloney hell say I'm wrong but I got the cheque 6 weeks later in my name so what was the hold up ill never no
i dont think its a rule its just what i'd like to see and thats shocking mate, should never happen like that

Re: Kevin Mitchell still not been paid

Posted: 08 Nov 2012, 16:16
by dondada
Adamj1987 wrote:
tear up wrote:
Adamj1987 wrote:surly you should have to be paid within a week
Well I got paid 6 weeks after the booth fight with Maloney hell say I'm wrong but I got the cheque 6 weeks later in my name so what was the hold up ill never no
i dont think its a rule its just what i'd like to see and thats shocking mate, should never happen like that
I believe seven days is the normal, stipulated period, Adam... :TU:

Re: Kevin Mitchell still not been paid

Posted: 08 Nov 2012, 16:20
by Adamj1987
dondada wrote: I believe seven days is the normal, stipulated period, Adam... :TU:
good guess then, i'm not fully up on managment, promoter payment regs

Re: Kevin Mitchell still not been paid

Posted: 08 Nov 2012, 16:23
by ThereByTheGrace
tear up wrote:
Adamj1987 wrote:surly you should have to be paid within a week
Well I got paid 6 weeks after the booth fight with Maloney hell say I'm wrong but I got the cheque 6 weeks later in my name so what was the hold up ill never no
I think FW will put the money in an interest bearing account then put the interest in his pocket. Its just business - the longer he has the cash the better for him.

I'm not saying its right but that's my take. He will get paid - hopefully!

Re: Kevin Mitchell still not been paid

Posted: 08 Nov 2012, 16:26
by 15829
dondada wrote:
diggler wrote:
The Dark Destroyer wrote:How am I wrong? I'm telling you what I read in the articles about it. It's the articles that would be wrong. So the facts are Bellew wasn't paid on time, so why did the case find he was paid then, or do they mean he was paid (eventually)?

Your'e not wrong but your spoiling everyone's fun of taking the piss out of Warren with the truth shame on you :wink:
The case wasn't about whether Bellew had been paid.

I no Dean Powell got mixed up between the British and Commonwealth title rules