Sky , eddie Hearn

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Is anyone else becoming disappointed with the same boxers always on - froch,bellew ,brook .
Nothing against any of these fighters but I don't look forward too ringside and so on anymore
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In a word - YES!
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I thought so it's annoying me so bad
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Same shit just a different Thursday.
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...I'd say yes...but the alternative is...not usually much better
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i agree

sky needs some big fights as the last six months under eddie hearn have been bad
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Give it a year half sky won't be showing boxing it does not get the viewing figures. I don't know what channels will be showing boxing then!
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allegedly is a limited time project i feel as they are not getting the figures they want, sky are not getting the figures they want as their liquorice allsorts have too many of the same sweets in!

personally i would like to see eddie hearn with a bigger stable, another promoter introduced into the sky mix (coldwell?) which would increase pulling power for the promoter. I would like the BBB of C have the power to 'order' matches that had to happen or fighters/promoters would be suspended!

obviously there would then be issues as to whose promotion there 'ordered' fights would be on but maybe the board should decree this on a rotational basis.

i would also like to see the occasional small hall show televised live, this would give exposure to younger fighters and also make promoters think twice about opponents. i want to see equal fights regardless of the fighters levels, 50 /50 fights are what we want, then the public will tune in.

we want 3-1 (1) v 5-2 (2) ............. we DONT want 6-0 (3) v 3-127

I have had enough of this!!
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leforge wrote:Give it a year half sky won't be showing boxing it does not get the viewing figures. I don't know what channels will be showing boxing then!
Here we go again you said for the last couple years that Sky would drop boxing when the contracts were up and they didn`t,they just reduced it like i said thet would.Hearn got some great viewing figures for Brook and Froch last year.The viewing figures for Brooks last fight was poor but it was poor fight on paper and was against x factor,with too many blokes losing out to there misses in the battle for the remote.If the viewing figures are still poor throughout next year and the year after they might drop it but i have faith that Hearn will produce the fights and the viewing figures he needs.It`s way too early in the two year cycle to tell if the Matchroom experiment will work
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As daft as this may sound but id like ALL of the promoters on allegedly other than anyone who can get a deal with Terrestrial Tv ie Hennessy , simple because then all boxing is one place , those who want to get on it know what they gotta do and those who only subscribe to sky sports for boxing would transfer their subscription etc , personally it irritates me that my subs pay towards F1 and the like when i have no interest in it .


The problem with the above scenario is the man who would be in charge .

If it was someone more neutral it would work far better .
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The picture quality on bxonation is appalling.

It's like someone smeared Vaseline on the tv screen.
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The Dark Destroyer wrote:
G0mez wrote:The picture quality on bxonation is appalling.

It's like someone smeared Vaseline on the tv screen.

It's not that bad, HD has just spoiled you.

Their replay of the Hopkins-Calzaghe fight I caught a while back was appalling though, I don't know why but it was barely watchable, Calzaghe-Kessler was quite bad too.
who was the common fighter in both cases.
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rhino222 wrote:Allegedly channel is a limited time project i feel as they are not getting the figures they want, sky are not getting the figures they want as their liquorice allsorts have too many of the same sweets in!

personally i would like to see eddie hearn with a bigger stable, another promoter introduced into the sky mix (coldwell?) which would increase pulling power for the promoter. I would like the BBB of C have the power to 'order' matches that had to happen or fighters/promoters would be suspended!

obviously there would then be issues as to whose promotion there 'ordered' fights would be on but maybe the board should decree this on a rotational basis.

i would also like to see the occasional small hall show televised live, this would give exposure to younger fighters and also make promoters think twice about opponents. i want to see equal fights regardless of the fighters levels, 50 /50 fights are what we want, then the public will tune in.

we want 3-1 (1) v 5-2 (2) ............. we DONT want 6-0 (3) v 3-127

I have had enough of this!!
That is what we did on Primetime (September) and more of the same at Brentwood (live on Primetime free to view) on 8th December. All tv fights will be 50/50 with postive records for both boxers.

Strange no one refers to this!
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Steve I think your cards have maybe got better with the Premier deal but prior to that I think some of yours were more like 99%-1%.
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pyenest77 wrote:Steve I think your cards have maybe got better with the Premier deal but prior to that I think some of yours were more like 99%-1%.
Maybe????? (Look at the card from September) (Look at the December 8th card). with respect I dont think its maybe.

On December 8th we currently have 8 fights with both fighters with positive records. Show me another small hall show where this has happened.

As you know it is difficult getting managers to accept competitive bouts and the Primetime deal has helped us achieve that

Some of all promoters fights are 99/%-1% including Hearn, Warren, Coldwell.

4 round fights will generally continue to be like that on all shows.

If you look at our other two bills this year we had Conquest v Williams : Adams v Harrison and Weiss v Toms all considered very competitive beforehand.

Also going back to the first three shows we ever staged:
Harry Matthews v Terry Carruthers
El Maachi v Bertrand Aloa
El Maachi v Jimmy Colas (European number 4 at the time)

The subject I answered was about 50/50 TV fights and thats what we do!

Dont really get where your point has come from and what relevance (we are talking tv) or substance (when you state maybe) it has TBH.
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stevegoodwin wrote:
rhino222 wrote:Allegedly channel is a limited time project i feel as they are not getting the figures they want, sky are not getting the figures they want as their liquorice allsorts have too many of the same sweets in!

personally i would like to see eddie hearn with a bigger stable, another promoter introduced into the sky mix (coldwell?) which would increase pulling power for the promoter. I would like the BBB of C have the power to 'order' matches that had to happen or fighters/promoters would be suspended!

obviously there would then be issues as to whose promotion there 'ordered' fights would be on but maybe the board should decree this on a rotational basis.

i would also like to see the occasional small hall show televised live, this would give exposure to younger fighters and also make promoters think twice about opponents. i want to see equal fights regardless of the fighters levels, 50 /50 fights are what we want, then the public will tune in.

we want 3-1 (1) v 5-2 (2) ............. we DONT want 6-0 (3) v 3-127

I have had enough of this!!
That is what we did on Primetime (September) and more of the same at Brentwood (live on Primetime free to view) on 8th December. All tv fights will be 50/50 with postive records for both boxers.

Strange no one refers to this!
people have to be aware of it steve, unfortunately primetime to me means another bloody subscription so i tend to switch off in my mind when i hear the word, im sure that thousands of others do too. perhaps a channel re-name and better marketing is required?
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Totally agree with that. I was promised a lot of lead up publicity last time but it did not materialise.

Our shows are totally free to view and it needs publicising

The top two fights
Agyei-Dua v Graham (Southern Area Light middle)
plus battle of the Heavyweights
Ian Lewison v Dorian Darch (6 and 0) who is the new Welsh heavyweight hope

plus many other 50/50's. We will choose the best for tv.

Just thought that we do is exactly what you are calling for and I agree that Sky should show these sorts of shows.

They know where to get hold of me but I wont hold my breath :)

In meantime its hard for Eddie Hearn IMO. He doesnt have a massive stable of headline acts and he cannot really afford for the main ones to lose so its a difficult
job.

I think Matchroom are the best UK promoters but still maintain that a monopoly does not work in boxing.

We will continue to do what we do and had over 50,000 views last time so hopefully more on December 8th as people can record and watch after if they are watching the Matchroom show.
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stevegoodwin wrote:
rhino222 wrote:Allegedly channel is a limited time project i feel as they are not getting the figures they want, sky are not getting the figures they want as their liquorice allsorts have too many of the same sweets in!

personally i would like to see eddie hearn with a bigger stable, another promoter introduced into the sky mix (coldwell?) which would increase pulling power for the promoter. I would like the BBB of C have the power to 'order' matches that had to happen or fighters/promoters would be suspended!

obviously there would then be issues as to whose promotion there 'ordered' fights would be on but maybe the board should decree this on a rotational basis.

i would also like to see the occasional small hall show televised live, this would give exposure to younger fighters and also make promoters think twice about opponents. i want to see equal fights regardless of the fighters levels, 50 /50 fights are what we want, then the public will tune in.

we want 3-1 (1) v 5-2 (2) ............. we DONT want 6-0 (3) v 3-127

I have had enough of this!!
That is what we did on Primetime (September) and more of the same at Brentwood (live on Primetime free to view) on 8th December. All tv fights will be 50/50 with postive records for both boxers.

Strange no one refers to this!
You have about 18 fights listed then end up with about 8, this can't be good for all involved.
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pyenest77 wrote:Steve I think your cards have maybe got better with the Premier deal but prior to that I think some of yours were more like 99%-1%.
His cards don't do anything for me, plenty of potential fights, but lacking in quality, I mean a guy of under 6 fights headlining.
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Post by IRLangmaid25 »

When I first heard that Sky Sports had decided to throw it's lot in with Matchroom Sports and Eddie Hearn I thought that they were potentially taking a massive gamble on show casing just one stable of top line British fighters rather than spreading the budget over a number of promoters in the past to help fully showcase the best of British talent like they have done in the past.
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allegedly can be very boring, just don't like the set up, commentary and picture quality, Bunce get's on your nerves and is so biased, one saving grace they show the undercard, but not as good as channel 5 and Sky.
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Peter Parker wrote:
pyenest77 wrote:Steve I think your cards have maybe got better with the Premier deal but prior to that I think some of yours were more like 99%-1%.
His cards don't do anything for me, plenty of potential fights, but lacking in quality, I mean a guy of under 6 fights headlining.
Really strange getting negative criticism for what we are doing and when there is criticism it isnt even factually right.

1) Boxers do pull out with injuries but we have never had 18 fights going down to 8. This year May show had 11 fights, September 10 fights. Classed as value for money
2) There isnt a guy topping the bill with under 6 fights (he has had 7) and this is an Area title. (By the way the recent winner of Prizefighter only had 2 fights)

Look at the bill. I challenge you to find a better value show with more competitive fights on the budget we have.

There are currently 19 fights scheduled and contracted. There are likely to be some injuries so we may end up with 15 (it could happen)

Our shows sell out and the boxing enthusiasts pay to come come again!

We dont have large funding from tv so we work with what we have. We give free to air boxing with competitive fights. I apologise if you want British European and World titles on our shows. hopefully in the future :)
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stevegoodwin wrote:
Peter Parker wrote:
pyenest77 wrote:Steve I think your cards have maybe got better with the Premier deal but prior to that I think some of yours were more like 99%-1%.
His cards don't do anything for me, plenty of potential fights, but lacking in quality, I mean a guy of under 6 fights headlining.
Really strange getting negative criticism for what we are doing and when there is criticism it isnt even factually right.

1) Boxers do pull out with injuries but we have never had 18 fights going down to 8. This year May show had 11 fights, September 10 fights. Classed as value for money
2) There isnt a guy topping the bill with under 6 fights (he has had 7) and this is an Area title. (By the way the recent winner of Prizefighter only had 2 fights)

Look at the bill. I challenge you to find a better value show with more competitive fights on the budget we have.

There are currently 19 fights scheduled and contracted. There are likely to be some injuries so we may end up with 15 (it could happen)

Our shows sell out and the boxing enthusiasts pay to come come again!

We dont have large funding from tv so we work with what we have. We give free to air boxing with competitive fights. I apologise if you want British European and World titles on our shows. hopefully in the future :)

Id say Dave Coldwells show in manchester on 7th December with NO tv at all

Kieron Farrell vs Anthony Crolla
Derry Matthews vs Joe Elfidh

plus

Liam Conroy, David Barnes, Matty Clarkson and more

not that expensive to go aswell think standard seating £30.00
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stevegoodwin wrote:
Peter Parker wrote:
pyenest77 wrote:Steve I think your cards have maybe got better with the Premier deal but prior to that I think some of yours were more like 99%-1%.
His cards don't do anything for me, plenty of potential fights, but lacking in quality, I mean a guy of under 6 fights headlining.
Really strange getting negative criticism for what we are doing and when there is criticism it isnt even factually right.

1) Boxers do pull out with injuries but we have never had 18 fights going down to 8. This year May show had 11 fights, September 10 fights. Classed as value for money
2) There isnt a guy topping the bill with under 6 fights (he has had 7) and this is an Area title. (By the way the recent winner of Prizefighter only had 2 fights)

Look at the bill. I challenge you to find a better value show with more competitive fights on the budget we have.

There are currently 19 fights scheduled and contracted. There are likely to be some injuries so we may end up with 15 (it could happen)

Our shows sell out and the boxing enthusiasts pay to come come again!

We dont have large funding from tv so we work with what we have. We give free to air boxing with competitive fights. I apologise if you want British European and World titles on our shows. hopefully in the future :)
Don't you put on shows at venues with a capacity of under 1500, come on now ! The 18 fights comment was more of a joke comment, but you show a lot of fights on boxrec and they do diminish come fight night, you are lagging behind on quality compared to other smaller promoters, it does not matter if it is under 6 fights or 7, surely not worthy of top of the bill, Prizefighter has nothing to do with it at all, they are 3 rounders, in which anyone can win and much more entertaining.
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Shame that we can't get Primetime/Premier Sports on Virgin as I'd love to see the Steve Goodwin shows.
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