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Who can beat Wladimir - Current heavyweights
Posted: 11 Nov 2012, 14:26
by rhino222
My Call is Robert Helenius, Styles make fights and i forsee the fast hands and power of helenius giving Wladimir Klitschko a whole heap of problems (remember a certain Corrie Sanders RIP).
I can hear you all moaning that Chisora beat Helenius, and yes visually he probably did but i would consider Del boy (at the time) had a better chin than Wladimir and a completely different style too.
So thats my call, and i would put money on it should the fight be made, any other ideas?
Re: Who can beat Wladimir - Current heavyweights
Posted: 11 Nov 2012, 14:31
by Horse
Tyson Fury.
Re: Who can beat Wladimir - Current heavyweights
Posted: 11 Nov 2012, 14:37
by rhino222
Horse wrote:Tyson Fury.
you serious?... how does he beat wladimir?
Re: Who can beat Wladimir - Current heavyweights
Posted: 11 Nov 2012, 14:52
by Horse
rhino222 wrote:you serious?... how does he beat wladimir?
Fury would be the tallest fighter Wlad has faced and with the longest reach.
Wlad's stamina doesn't seem very good and I think Fury could outlast him and stop him late.
Re: Who can beat Wladimir - Current heavyweights
Posted: 11 Nov 2012, 14:53
by bigh
PRICE????
Re: Who can beat Wladimir - Current heavyweights
Posted: 11 Nov 2012, 14:57
by mullenman
david haye still has the best chance
bad night last time but was still the closest fight in the last six years
if haye could land big early he would have a chance
Re: Who can beat Wladimir - Current heavyweights
Posted: 11 Nov 2012, 15:01
by ShadrachSimmo
No one.
Re: Who can beat Wladimir - Current heavyweights
Posted: 11 Nov 2012, 15:09
by TheWigwam
I would say that Wlad would be just about as comfortable against Helenius as he was last night against Wach :)
Currently I don't think anyone WOULD beat him
Re: Who can beat Wladimir - Current heavyweights
Posted: 11 Nov 2012, 15:14
by Syntax Error
I don't believe that there is one current top flight HW that can beat Wladimir right now.
Vitali is probably the only HW that has a chance, but even Vitali is developing rigor-mortis & is past his best, plus it would never happen anyway.
Wladimir has the division locked out right now.
Re: Who can beat Wladimir - Current heavyweights
Posted: 11 Nov 2012, 15:25
by Horse
How many punches did Wach throw against Klitschko?
Re: Who can beat Wladimir - Current heavyweights
Posted: 11 Nov 2012, 15:26
by rob h
Furys height and reach will do him no favours. He doesn't know how to use those assetts. Wlad would do Fury as soon as a straight right "down the pipe" smashed him on the chin.
Re: Who can beat Wladimir - Current heavyweights
Posted: 11 Nov 2012, 15:30
by rhino222
rob h wrote:Furys height and reach will do him no favours. He doesn't know how to use those assetts. Wlad would do Fury as soon as a straight right "down the pipe" smashed him on the chin.
Much as i love Fury thats how i feel too!
Re: Who can beat Wladimir - Current heavyweights
Posted: 11 Nov 2012, 15:31
by Bard of Boxrec
Call me crazy, but Price. If it happened I would be really confident too.
Re: Who can beat Wladimir - Current heavyweights
Posted: 11 Nov 2012, 15:42
by Syntax Error
Riddick Blowe wrote:Call me crazy, but Price. If it happened I would be really confident too.
I can see why you'd think that.
I personally think Price is 4 decent fights & 18 months away from Wladimir's level, but you never know with these things.
Re: Who can beat Wladimir - Current heavyweights
Posted: 11 Nov 2012, 15:44
by Maxsplit
Riddick Blowe wrote:Call me crazy, but Price. If it happened I would be really confident too.
I'm calling you Crazy
Yes, if Price were to land heavy on Wlad he would hurt him. Just like the same sized Wach.
But realistcally Wlad has had 9 consecutive years of title fights and Price's best win to date is against Sam Sexton
Price's chin IS pure china and basically every bookie in the land would have it odds on that Wlad would land first and in doing so stop Price straight away. Sadly.
Wlad just has TOO much experience against a guy who has not fought any better than Sexton or 49 year old Matt Skelton.
Price does not have any experience, nor Wach's chin, in any sense

Re: Who can beat Wladimir - Current heavyweights
Posted: 11 Nov 2012, 16:00
by hurlock
You can say expieriance & price aint had his chin tested & it will only get hit at the highest level.price undoubtedly has the required tools to beat any heavyweight out there today!
As for prices chin wlads allway's had his critics & 50 fights later....
Vitali is there for the taking & wlad is slowly going back in reverse.i think even fury can create a test
Re: Who can beat Wladimir - Current heavyweights
Posted: 11 Nov 2012, 16:04
by ShadrachSimmo
Price or Fury will not beat Wlad. Not for a year or 2 if ever....
Re: Who can beat Wladimir - Current heavyweights
Posted: 11 Nov 2012, 16:07
by crusader
hurlock wrote:You can say expieriance & price aint had his chin tested & it will only get hit at the highest level.price undoubtedly has the required tools to beat any heavyweight out there today!
As for prices chin wlads allway's had his critics & 50 fights later....
Vitali is there for the taking & wlad is slowly going back in reverse.i think even fury can create a test
Based on?
Re: Who can beat Wladimir - Current heavyweights
Posted: 11 Nov 2012, 16:41
by SteveDow
Price would definitely have the power to hurt Wlad but at the moment I just can't see anyone posing him any real problems. He looked awesome last night apart from being shaken by a great shot in the 5th.
Re: Who can beat Wladimir - Current heavyweights
Posted: 11 Nov 2012, 16:45
by thunderfromdownunder
Vitali is the only one who could beat him.
There is some decent looking heavyweights coming out for the first time in a while. But none of them are on that level. I'd say Wladdy ain't loosing for at least two years
Re: Who can beat Wladimir - Current heavyweights
Posted: 11 Nov 2012, 17:06
by fightfaninfrance
mullenman wrote:david haye still has the best chance
bad night last time but was still the closest fight in the last six years
if haye could land big early he would have a chance
Completely agree. In London with 10 strong toes and none of the silly buggering around pre-fight Haye could force a decision or stoppage (possibly).
Re: Who can beat Wladimir - Current heavyweights
Posted: 11 Nov 2012, 18:43
by Finn
fightfaninfrance wrote:mullenman wrote:david haye still has the best chance
bad night last time but was still the closest fight in the last six years
if haye could land big early he would have a chance
Completely agree. In London with 10 strong toes and none of the silly buggering around pre-fight Haye could force a decision or stoppage (possibly).
x 3 i wouldnt have him as the favourite but Haye showed he can avoid being hit by wlad, id be interested to see what happens when he goes looking for wlad. The 12th round was the only one with any action in and haye hurt wlad, if that had happened from the start one of them would have ended up counted out.
Re: Who can beat Wladimir - Current heavyweights
Posted: 11 Nov 2012, 18:53
by crusader
i wouldnt have him as the favourite
Good. It would be absurd if you did.
id be interested to see what happens when he goes looking for wlad.
So would I, but it will probably never happen.
The 12th round was the only one with any action in and haye hurt wlad, if that had happened from the start one of them would have ended up counted out
Wach had Wlad in just as much trouble as Haye did. Does Wach-Klitschko II interest you?
Re: Who can beat Wladimir - Current heavyweights
Posted: 11 Nov 2012, 19:14
by Punchy Joe
Perhaps Kubrat Pulev could give Wlad a decent test.
Big fan of David Price too but he's not ready yet,
Tyson Fury is much better technically than Wach but its whether either of those 2 Brits could avoid Wlads right hand, cos if it landed I don't think there chins would stand up like Wach's did last night lol.
Re: Who can beat Wladimir - Current heavyweights
Posted: 11 Nov 2012, 20:35
by Maxsplit
Last night was actually quite an eye opener as to just how good Wlad is
A lot of people thought conceding height, reach, weight and age to a 6'8 guy. 4 years younger than him would test Klitschko.
If anything he found it easier than fighting 6'0 Eddie Chambers.
It kind of burst the bubble of illusion [delusion?] for me that Price and Fury (less so as he is more mobile and significantly younger) would stand anything other than a slim punchers chance against Wlad at this moment. On a good day!
There is no way either Price or Fury could have taken the shots Wach did, and I say that as a big Fury fan.
It was quite sobering watching the fight. It just makes you realise that the equivalent playing Champion's League finals for 10 years in a row is going to give you all kinds of experience that competing against Blue Square Conference teams llke Skelton & Harrison won't prepare you for.
Haye is the only heavyweight out there who has the pedigree to compete with Wlad. The Klitschko's and Haye are basically operating in an entirely different class to the rest of the heavyweight division
