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Bellew Cut - Horrific!
Posted: 18 Nov 2012, 08:45
by johnswan1
I hope this doesn't affect him in the long term. He was brilliant to fight on with it but shouldn't the doctor really be taking a look at it? I would have hated to see Bellew lose but surely there was a huge risk of causing real long term damage? Well done with your win Bomber, that was really nasty!

Re: Bellew Cut - Horrific!
Posted: 18 Nov 2012, 08:54
by JLP
It will leave a nasty scar but it would've done if they'd stopped the fight as soon as it happened.
It may open up again in future fights but it may have done if they'd stopped the fight as soon as it happened.
The chances of a guy as bad as Bolonti being that high up on the light heavy rankings, of one of the major organisations any time soon are slim. Losing to him would have been a major set back, even if it was on a cut. Bellew and his team are putting themselves into the mix for a shot at Dawson and the money that goes with it. They've got to be single-minded and push for that. Bolonti was a stepping stone that had to be dealt with.
All involved last night did the right thing.
Re: Bellew Cut - Horrific!
Posted: 18 Nov 2012, 09:11
by damianhucker1
At the venue i could see he was cut but i had no idea it was as bad as that , i thought he looked a little off form but to continue with a cut like that we cant really be too critical .
Re: Bellew Cut - Horrific!
Posted: 18 Nov 2012, 10:04
by TheCobra
That is pretty big, got to be at least 1.5 cm at it's biggest point. Eurgh.
Re: Bellew Cut - Horrific!
Posted: 18 Nov 2012, 10:19
by Coco
With this precedent, surely no fight in a British ring will ever be stopped on a cut again!
Barrera must be gutted on being stopped with a cut less than half the size!
Re: Bellew Cut - Horrific!
Posted: 18 Nov 2012, 10:40
by jonny
Coco wrote:With this precedent, surely no fight in a British ring will ever be stopped on a cut again!
Barrera must be gutted on being stopped with a cut less than half the size!
it would have been stopped if it was a accidental head clash or if it was Bolonti that was cut
Re: Bellew Cut - Horrific!
Posted: 18 Nov 2012, 10:45
by slapbangwhallop
Coco wrote:With this precedent, surely no fight in a British ring will ever be stopped on a cut again!
Barrera must be gutted on being stopped with a cut less than half the size!
or McCloskey 1/5th the size!
Re: Bellew Cut - Horrific!
Posted: 18 Nov 2012, 11:08
by taffytoon
In that picture Mick has spread open the cut as much as he could to apply 1/100 adrenaline solution, had the cut been a little lower down it would have been stopped IMHO.
Re: Bellew Cut - Horrific!
Posted: 18 Nov 2012, 11:18
by jamesmcdonnell
Barrera's team never really managed to staunch the flow, giving the ref justification to stop it, though not correctly in my opinion, as the cut never worsened, it was clearly to favour Khan and ensure he won, no doubt about it.
Re: Bellew Cut - Horrific!
Posted: 18 Nov 2012, 14:11
by rhino222
firstly i am not sure how cutsmen continually seem to not bother wearing gloves to protect themselves and the fighters, this should be law!! as hep etc can be passed. Imagine if both fighters were cut, rubbing heads etc!.. gloves would not stop it but would help minimise it.
secondly...part of the worry with a cut like that is injury to the muscles around the eye!!
Re: Bellew Cut - Horrific!
Posted: 18 Nov 2012, 14:26
by Coco
rhino222 wrote:firstly i am not sure how cutsmen continually seem to not bother wearing gloves to protect themselves and the fighters, this should be law!! as hep etc can be passed. Imagine if both fighters were cut, rubbing heads etc!.. gloves would not stop it but would help minimise it.
secondly...part of the worry with a cut like that is injury to the muscles around the eye!!
I'd guess that if intricate work needs to be done that gloves would really hinder your work
Re: Bellew Cut - Horrific!
Posted: 18 Nov 2012, 14:32
by jonny
Coco wrote:rhino222 wrote:firstly i am not sure how cutsmen continually seem to not bother wearing gloves to protect themselves and the fighters, this should be law!! as hep etc can be passed. Imagine if both fighters were cut, rubbing heads etc!.. gloves would not stop it but would help minimise it.
secondly...part of the worry with a cut like that is injury to the muscles around the eye!!
I'd guess that if intricate work needs to be done that gloves would really hinder your work
he wouldn't be wearing welders gloves
Re: Bellew Cut - Horrific!
Posted: 18 Nov 2012, 15:00
by taffytoon
Coco wrote:rhino222 wrote:firstly i am not sure how cutsmen continually seem to not bother wearing gloves to protect themselves and the fighters, this should be law!! as hep etc can be passed. Imagine if both fighters were cut, rubbing heads etc!.. gloves would not stop it but would help minimise it.
secondly...part of the worry with a cut like that is injury to the muscles around the eye!!
I'd guess that if intricate work needs to be done that gloves would really hinder your work
You would NEVER find surgeons operating without gloves, I also think cuts men should wear gloves.
Re: Bellew Cut - Horrific!
Posted: 18 Nov 2012, 15:07
by jameswilson
rhino222 wrote:firstly i am not sure how cutsmen continually seem to not bother wearing gloves to protect themselves and the fighters, this should be law!! as hep etc can be passed. Imagine if both fighters were cut, rubbing heads etc!.. gloves would not stop it but would help minimise it.
secondly...part of the worry with a cut like that is injury to the muscles around the eye!!
Have to say I noticed this last night and it's the first time I have noticed a cutsman not wearing gloves. Maybe I haven't paid much attention between rounds before. But it definately needs to be made law.
Re: Bellew Cut - Horrific!
Posted: 18 Nov 2012, 15:26
by rhino222
jameswilson wrote:rhino222 wrote:firstly i am not sure how cutsmen continually seem to not bother wearing gloves to protect themselves and the fighters, this should be law!! as hep etc can be passed. Imagine if both fighters were cut, rubbing heads etc!.. gloves would not stop it but would help minimise it.
secondly...part of the worry with a cut like that is injury to the muscles around the eye!!
Have to say I noticed this last night and it's the first time I have noticed a cutsman not wearing gloves. Maybe I haven't paid much attention between rounds before. But it definately needs to be made law.
i have emailed the board about it before, it had about as much attention by the board as IJL's decisions!!
Re: Bellew Cut - Horrific!
Posted: 18 Nov 2012, 16:44
by Dioufy
Defensively Bolonti was good, offensively he was shite. Could've beaten Bomber there if he really left everything in the ring.
Re: Bellew Cut - Horrific!
Posted: 18 Nov 2012, 18:39
by sharpei_louis
I would imagine if all close by are tested before hand for contagious diseases and Mick's hands are unblemished and he has properly scrubbed up, the chances of passing anything is still very slim really. Gloves wouldn't do anything to prevent anything getting in from elsewhere unless he put a new pair on at the end of every round. Nothing to stop anything else close by lingering on a glove any more than skin... I agree latex gloves would hinder the work of the cuts man really.
Re: Bellew Cut - Horrific!
Posted: 18 Nov 2012, 19:03
by greenyox3
Bellew must have been in some serious pain. Or if he didn't notice it in the ring he'll be noticing it now.
It'll hurt for years to come as well. Especially if someone lands a clean punch in that spot again.
Re: Bellew Cut - Horrific!
Posted: 18 Nov 2012, 19:22
by Ratchet Exits Nu
johnswan1 wrote:I hope this doesn't affect him in the long term. He was brilliant to fight on with it but shouldn't the doctor really be taking a look at it? I would have hated to see Bellew lose but surely there was a huge risk of causing real long term damage? Well done with your win Bomber, that was really nasty!

That's what I thought, but the doctor looked as if he did not want to say anything.
Better to lose a fight than a whole career. He will be out of the ring 6-8 months with that cut. Doctor should have stepped in.
Re: Bellew Cut - Horrific!
Posted: 18 Nov 2012, 19:24
by Ratchet Exits Nu
Coco wrote:With this precedent, surely no fight in a British ring will ever be stopped on a cut again!
Barrera must be gutted on being stopped with a cut less than half the size!
Looked to me as if the doctor and ref were too scared to stop it. That is the worst cut I have ever seen a fighter have and be allowed to fight on.
Re: Bellew Cut - Horrific!
Posted: 18 Nov 2012, 23:31
by hurlock
That makes a Damian Kelly cut look like a nick!
Re: Bellew Cut - Horrific!
Posted: 19 Nov 2012, 05:33
by Looking On
They have to wear gloves in the amateurs so i see no reason why they dont as pros , its something thats been discussed on here previously a while ago
Re: Bellew Cut - Horrific!
Posted: 19 Nov 2012, 07:23
by rhino222
sharpei_louis wrote:I would imagine if all close by are tested before hand for contagious diseases and Mick's hands are unblemished and he has properly scrubbed up, the chances of passing anything is still very slim really. Gloves wouldn't do anything to prevent anything getting in from elsewhere unless he put a new pair on at the end of every round. Nothing to stop anything else close by lingering on a glove any more than skin... I agree latex gloves would hinder the work of the cuts man really.
complete crap, if gloves are good enough for an ophthalmic surgeon then they are surely ok for a sausage fingered cutsman, would you let someone put an unprotected finger into your cut eye. would you let a doctor examine you without gloves on? would you expect a paramedic to wear gloves? its about the shit on the cutsmans hands for everyday life as well as blood etc. plus..whats wrong with changing gloves each round..he has 3 mins to do it in!
Re: Bellew Cut - Horrific!
Posted: 19 Nov 2012, 09:05
by righthook
Ratchet Exits Nu wrote:johnswan1 wrote:I hope this doesn't affect him in the long term. He was brilliant to fight on with it but shouldn't the doctor really be taking a look at it? I would have hated to see Bellew lose but surely there was a huge risk of causing real long term damage? Well done with your win Bomber, that was really nasty!

That's what I thought, but the doctor looked as if he did not want to say anything.
Better to lose a fight than a whole career. He will be out of the ring 6-8 months with that cut. Doctor should have stepped in.
He will b out the ring for less than half of that! The cut looks great already the doctors have done a great job u can't even tell he's been cut from a distance
Re: Bellew Cut - Horrific!
Posted: 19 Nov 2012, 09:32
by Exoddus
That cut was an absolute beauty. That cut was a real gift for Bolonti. That cut gave Bolonti his only chance of being able to win the fight. Credit to Tony for keeping Bolonti on the back foot. Though Bolonti really should have took more chances. Even if he had to take 5 punches to just land one on that cut. He would have given himself a good chance of winning. He gave Mick Williamson all the time he needed to sort out Tony’s cut. Bolonti should have made the fight a real nightmare for Tony and Mick. Yet Tony won the fight quite easy in the end.