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Groves v Johnson

Posted: 20 Nov 2012, 10:34
by dsimpson
A little promo for the upcoming fight on the 15th:

http://youtu.be/Fwjedv7mWWg


Proper test for Groves this one. It's only 18 months ago that Johnson dropped a MD to Froch. Watch the 8th round of that one back - he puts Froch under some serious pressure:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXRbQrJU ... ure=relmfu

I think we'll see Groves tested in this one.

Re: Groves v Johnson

Posted: 20 Nov 2012, 10:45
by orbtastic
Is this fight definitely on?

Re: Groves v Johnson

Posted: 20 Nov 2012, 10:52
by TopGun
I'll believe it when I see it, still don't think this fight will happen!

Re: Groves v Johnson

Posted: 20 Nov 2012, 11:03
by dsimpson
Yeah, it's definitely on. Why?

Re: Groves v Johnson

Posted: 20 Nov 2012, 11:33
by mfc_se15
dsimpson wrote:Yeah, it's definitely on. Why?

I think people are probably asking because its Warren promoting and secondly when the fight was announced I think on the same day Johnson gave a few interviews saying nothing has been signed yet or something along those lines.

Re: Groves v Johnson

Posted: 20 Nov 2012, 11:41
by dsimpson
mfc_se15 wrote:
dsimpson wrote:Yeah, it's definitely on. Why?

I think people are probably asking because its Warren promoting and secondly when the fight was announced I think on the same day Johnson gave a few interviews saying nothing has been signed yet or something along those lines.
:OhYes:
Ah, ok. Well it's definitely on as far as I know.

Re: Groves v Johnson

Posted: 20 Nov 2012, 11:45
by Counter-puncher
dsimpson wrote:
mfc_se15 wrote:
dsimpson wrote:Yeah, it's definitely on. Why?

I think people are probably asking because its Warren promoting and secondly when the fight was announced I think on the same day Johnson gave a few interviews saying nothing has been signed yet or something along those lines.
:OhYes:
Ah, ok. Well it's definitely on as far as I know.

Johnson is about 82 and his elbows are made of glass, so I wouldn't hold your breath

Re: Groves v Johnson

Posted: 20 Nov 2012, 12:04
by Bard of Boxrec
Guys, I heard TBA is looking really good in training.

Re: Groves v Johnson

Posted: 20 Nov 2012, 12:13
by whiskey
Riddick Blowe wrote:Guys, I heard TBA is looking really good in training.
:D

Re: Groves v Johnson

Posted: 20 Nov 2012, 12:53
by vxrandall
will depend whether enough tickets have been sold to cover venue cost

with new opponent for burns likely to even more guff than walsh im guessing it'll soon become clear that there will be a shortfall on sales vs costs and fighter purses and bill will get canned

just a hunch

Re: Groves v Johnson

Posted: 20 Nov 2012, 13:46
by Cyclops
If it happens a solid opponent and a potential banana skin. Good fight. Does it have a venue named yet?

Re: Groves v Johnson

Posted: 20 Nov 2012, 14:21
by Dan Dares
Can't see it happening for a a few reasons

Re: Groves v Johnson

Posted: 20 Nov 2012, 16:31
by lillywhite14
Objectivism wrote:Am I the only one who feels a little uncomfortable with this fight? Johnson's well on the slide and the Paul Smith win apart Groves isn't a one punch banger so I could see the old boy get a systematic beating in going the full distance.

How come the Board are permitting this when Botha was knocked back for Fury recently?
Johnson will have more left in his tank when he is 60 than what Botha has.

Re: Groves v Johnson

Posted: 20 Nov 2012, 16:58
by ashedward
clopixolacuphase wrote:If it happens a solid opponent and a potential banana skin. Good fight. Does it have a venue named yet?
Yep i hope it happens,it is scheduled for the Excell

Re: Groves v Johnson

Posted: 20 Nov 2012, 17:17
by Terrrrry
clopixolacuphase wrote:If it happens a solid opponent and a potential banana skin. Good fight. Does it have a venue named yet?
ExCel, London.

Not sure how much Johnson has left, haven't seen him since the Bute fight. Rumour has it he's looked a bit shot in his last fight or two. If he has anything left he'll be a great opponent for GG, a potential banana skin.

Johnson will be allowed to fight over here past the age of 40 due to the fact he's challenging Groves for his Commonwealth title, I think.

Re: Groves v Johnson

Posted: 20 Nov 2012, 17:25
by Final round
Terrrrry wrote:
clopixolacuphase wrote:If it happens a solid opponent and a potential banana skin. Good fight. Does it have a venue named yet?
ExCel, London.

Not sure how much Johnson has left, haven't seen him since the Bute fight. Rumour has it he's looked a bit shot in his last fight or two. If he has anything left he'll be a great opponent for GG, a potential banana skin.

Johnson will be allowed to fight over here past the age of 40 due to the fact he's challenging Groves for his Commonwealth title, I think.
Johnson went the distance against Froch and Bute in 2011, apparently looked tired against Fonfara earlier this year but even then he's better than anyone Groves has fought up to now and is a decent step up in opposition imo.

Re: Groves v Johnson

Posted: 20 Nov 2012, 18:03
by Shambles
Objectivism wrote:Am I the only one who feels a little uncomfortable with this fight? Johnson's well on the slide and the Paul Smith win apart Groves isn't a one punch banger so I could see the old boy get a systematic beating in going the full distance.

How come the Board are permitting this when Botha was knocked back for Fury recently?

A completely different situation. You're comparing Johnson, who still has something to give, with Botha who is pretty much a spent force.

In my opinion, Johnson will gove Groves a good fight, it wont be as one sided as you think.

Re: Groves v Johnson

Posted: 20 Nov 2012, 18:12
by vxrandall
Shambles wrote:
Objectivism wrote:Am I the only one who feels a little uncomfortable with this fight? Johnson's well on the slide and the Paul Smith win apart Groves isn't a one punch banger so I could see the old boy get a systematic beating in going the full distance.

How come the Board are permitting this when Botha was knocked back for Fury recently?

A completely different situation. You're comparing Johnson, who still has something to give, with Botha who is pretty much a spent force.

In my opinion, Johnson will gove Groves a good fight, it wont be as one sided as you think.
so ...hands up whose got a ticket then? :-?

oh wait..there is another show on the week before and i think i might have one for that instead. plus there is the ppv for manny v jmm IV and its coming up to christmas and oh my gosh....

i might just have to give it a miss i guess. remind me...its the mysteriously injury prone kid against the old fella with more defeats on his record than the other kid's had fights and the world champion against TBA (sounds familiar) after domestic level challenger had to pull out through injury hmm....nope. I'll pass.

thanks tho

Re: Groves v Johnson

Posted: 20 Nov 2012, 18:41
by Old bones Ian
to be honest i think Johnson is the type of boxer that won't actually retire until he gets KO'd or a bad beating. In his last fight he was just to slow for the young guy, and after a rest he suddenly thinks 'yes i can do it again'.
If he actually gets KO'd i think that would make up his mind to retire for good.

Re: Groves v Johnson

Posted: 20 Nov 2012, 19:31
by Shambles
vxrandall wrote:
Shambles wrote:
Objectivism wrote:Am I the only one who feels a little uncomfortable with this fight? Johnson's well on the slide and the Paul Smith win apart Groves isn't a one punch banger so I could see the old boy get a systematic beating in going the full distance.

How come the Board are permitting this when Botha was knocked back for Fury recently?

A completely different situation. You're comparing Johnson, who still has something to give, with Botha who is pretty much a spent force.

In my opinion, Johnson will gove Groves a good fight, it wont be as one sided as you think.
so ...hands up whose got a ticket then? :-?

oh wait..there is another show on the week before and i think i might have one for that instead. plus there is the ppv for manny v jmm IV and its coming up to christmas and oh my gosh....

i might just have to give it a miss i guess. remind me...its the mysteriously injury prone kid against the old fella with more defeats on his record than the other kid's had fights and the world champion against TBA (sounds familiar) after domestic level challenger had to pull out through injury hmm....nope. I'll pass.

thanks tho
Not quite sure what you're response was meant to mean. Anyway, I don't have a ticket for Johnson v Groves, all I'm saying is that it will be fairly competitive in my opinion.

In future, you might want to keep away from the home made cider before posting.

Re: Groves v Johnson

Posted: 20 Nov 2012, 19:49
by vxrandall
Shambles wrote:

Not quite sure what you're response was meant to mean. Anyway, I don't have a ticket for Johnson v Groves, all I'm saying is that it will be fairly competitive in my opinion.

In future, you might want to keep away from the home made cider before posting.
maybe i pressed quote instead of post reply 'just because'.

maybe i havent had a drink at all

maybe you should lay off the weed if u are going to get all paranoid.

maybe you should try to be less accusatory if u havent checked all your facts

Re: Groves v Johnson

Posted: 20 Nov 2012, 20:03
by vxrandall
Objectivism wrote:
Shambles wrote:In future, you might want to keep away from the home made cider before posting.
Image
:lol:

Re: Groves v Johnson

Posted: 21 Nov 2012, 05:46
by danconnollyeire
No way Groves is losing this one

Good job he's with Fwank now. He will beat Abraham then have a 'legendary' run against H tier opponants before moving up to LHW when a unification with Froch/Ward comes up!

Re: Groves v Johnson

Posted: 21 Nov 2012, 06:04
by TopGun
Riddick Blowe wrote:Guys, I heard TBA is looking really good in training.

:OhYes:

Yeah I heard that, he is really looking forward to fighting Groves. His sparring partner has got Burns so it's a happy camp at their TBA gym.

Re: Groves v Johnson

Posted: 23 Nov 2012, 15:28
by TJ77
Good match if it happens Johnson is as good a challenge Groves will get currently and
Saint George can learn alot about selling a fight .Degale showed him how not to do it .