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Tyson Fury vs Kevin Johnson: Your view
Posted: 27 Nov 2012, 12:59
by Crease
I'm going to watch the fight on Saturday, but who you got in this matchup?
Re: Tyson Fury vs Kevin Johnson: Your view
Posted: 27 Nov 2012, 12:59
by Crease
I'm going for Fury by knockout (or TKO to be more precise)

Re: Tyson Fury vs Kevin Johnson: Your view
Posted: 27 Nov 2012, 13:14
by SteveDow
Fury on points.
Re: Tyson Fury vs Kevin Johnson: Your view
Posted: 27 Nov 2012, 13:22
by milpool
Fury on a wide points decision simply because Johnson will be lazy and lethargic.
A knockout win for Fury will be a good result for him but I reckon Johnson will just want to go through the motions and survive.
Re: Tyson Fury vs Kevin Johnson: Your view
Posted: 27 Nov 2012, 13:22
by Datsue
Crease, Vit Klit might be a gigantic arm-puncher, but there is no way on Satan's green sward that if he could not get Johnson going, Fury's gonna be able to.
Johnson will shut up shop ASAP though, after looking good for maybe a round & a half.
Fury on points.
Re: Tyson Fury vs Kevin Johnson: Your view
Posted: 27 Nov 2012, 13:47
by Deno1986
Fury by decision.
Johnson is defensively sound and has a good chin but throwing a few pawing jabs a round isn't going to get him very far on foreign soil.
Re: Tyson Fury vs Kevin Johnson: Your view
Posted: 27 Nov 2012, 14:59
by lefthook82
Fury by British Stoppage. If Johnson performs like he ddi against Vitali then he will deserve to be on the end of a bogus stoppage and I think Fury's activity wil see the ref step in
Re: Tyson Fury vs Kevin Johnson: Your view
Posted: 27 Nov 2012, 15:50
by sgtcecil
lefthook82 wrote:Fury by British Stoppage. If Johnson performs like he ddi against Vitali then he will deserve to be on the end of a bogus stoppage and I think Fury's activity wil see the ref step in
I think Fury points and I want to double it up with Price 1-6 but what you say is my concern about this bet. One big flurry and the ref might step in. Should be a points decision though.
Re: Tyson Fury vs Kevin Johnson: Your view
Posted: 27 Nov 2012, 15:50
by Quixall
Didn't Johnson lose in the prizefighter final ?
I can't quite remember, but i thought that he lost because he was fairly inactive through out the three rounds ?
If that is the case, then you aleady know the answer

Re: Tyson Fury vs Kevin Johnson: Your view
Posted: 27 Nov 2012, 17:26
by Datsue
Quixall wrote:Didn't Johnson lose in the prizefighter final ?
I can't quite remember, but i thought that he lost because he was fairly inactive through out the three rounds ?
If that is the case, then you aleady know the answer

Yes. Sosnowski beat him too, imo.
@ lefthook82: Good point RE: Ian John Lewis-stylee "special" stoppage. Johnson's so passive it's probably reasonably safe. I wonder if anyone'll offer odds on "Johnson stopped on his feet--despite never having been hurt--whilst complaining to the ref"?
Re: Tyson Fury vs Kevin Johnson: Your view
Posted: 28 Nov 2012, 06:13
by mjl78
Fury by wide-ish decision but there may be one or two hairy moments for him early on as he can be a slow starter. He literally didn’t throw a punch for the first two rounds against Rogan. Does anybody know if there is a press conference scheduled for this week and if so where is it and is it open to the public? The same for the weigh-in? cheers
Re: Tyson Fury vs Kevin Johnson: Your view
Posted: 28 Nov 2012, 09:16
by Chambers2
Fury by decision for me, prob 120-108. Kingpin's a cagey tricky customer.
Fury needs to pace this fight right though or he could find himself in trouble late on
Re: Tyson Fury vs Kevin Johnson: Your view
Posted: 28 Nov 2012, 09:21
by polecateddy
This is going to be funny. Didn't all you guys pick Hatton to win as well? Lol ...Johnson establishes his great jab, is far to cute for Fury, wears him down with plenty of flush shots, and Fury is TKO'd in the mid-rounds. Little, average Neven Pajkic, a no hoper with 5 stoppages in 17 fights, had a lot of success getting overhand rights through Fury's porous defence. How easy do you reckon Johnson will find it! A Kevin McBride career awaits Fury after this match.
Re: Tyson Fury vs Kevin Johnson: Your view
Posted: 28 Nov 2012, 09:31
by JLP
I expect to see Fury concentrating on trying to dominate the fight with the jab. When Oscar dela Hoya fought (I think) Miguel Angel Gonzalez back in '97, practically all he did was throw jabs form one through twelve. On a (much) lesser level, I think we will see Fury attempt something similar on Saturday. Lots and lots of variations of the same punch.
Of course Johnson has a pretty good jab himself and is fairly wily to boot, so I'll be interested to see how Fury copes with that and if Tyson can control the centre of the ring throughout. Only if Johnson comes out gunning or a glaring opportunity presents itself will Fury unleash.
I predict a Fury points win but he remains vulnerable and the day he does get stopped I won't be surprised at all.
Re: Tyson Fury vs Kevin Johnson: Your view
Posted: 28 Nov 2012, 09:35
by Chambers2
[quote="polecateddy"]This is going to be funny. Didn't all you guys pick Hatton to win as well? quote]
You that patronising in real life Eddy?
Re: Tyson Fury vs Kevin Johnson: Your view
Posted: 28 Nov 2012, 12:31
by Datsue
JLP wrote:I expect to see Fury concentrating on trying to dominate the fight with the jab. When Oscar dela Hoya fought (I think) Miguel Angel Gonzalez back in '97, practically all he did was throw jabs form one through twelve. On a (much) lesser level, I think we will see Fury attempt something similar on Saturday. Lots and lots of variations of the same punch.
Of course Johnson has a pretty good jab himself and is fairly wily to boot, so I'll be interested to see how Fury copes with that and if Tyson can control the centre of the ring throughout. Only if Johnson comes out gunning or a glaring opportunity presents itself will Fury unleash.
I predict a Fury points win but he remains vulnerable and the day he does get stopped I won't be surprised at all.
Yep. This. Johnson's workrate... Well, you need to find a new word, because "workrate" includes the word "work".
& it was Miguel Angel Gonzalez that fight (Gonzalez actually closed his eye with right hand counters, if memory serves).
Re: Tyson Fury vs Kevin Johnson: Your view
Posted: 28 Nov 2012, 12:32
by ShadrachSimmo
Fury wide points or possible shit stoppage.
Re: Tyson Fury vs Kevin Johnson: Your view
Posted: 28 Nov 2012, 12:56
by btahthezone
I personally don't rate Tyson Fury but I think he has too much for Johnson. I would like to see him do well for a British fighter so hopefully he keeps him on the jab and comes over with them huge rights
Re: Tyson Fury vs Kevin Johnson: Your view
Posted: 28 Nov 2012, 13:04
by lefthook82
Im gthinking of going big on british stoppage. Johnson's workrate is appaling, just dreadful and could see him covering up, ducking and weaving, nothing landing and the referee 'saving' him
I also think Fury will be looking to go one better than Vitali who in truth didnt look close to stopping this dude
If the ref is Terry O Connor I'm getting VERY involved
If its that Victor Loughlin I might have to reconsider
Re: Tyson Fury vs Kevin Johnson: Your view
Posted: 28 Nov 2012, 16:38
by polecateddy
Chambers2 wrote:polecateddy wrote:This is going to be funny. Didn't all you guys pick Hatton to win as well? quote]
You that patronising in real life Eddy?
No of course not. But there seems to be a lot of closed minds here.
Re: Tyson Fury vs Kevin Johnson: Your view
Posted: 28 Nov 2012, 16:39
by steve689
Spoke to Johnson today at the presser in Belfast and unsurprisingly he had reasons for his losses and said, "that was then this is now" which doesn't really clear anything up. He appealed to the ref (whoever he will be, probably European-based) to check Fury on the holding as he seems to think that the big lad will grab and wrestle him until he gets tired. The size difference is a key element of the fight. I expect Fury to simply be too big.
Re: Tyson Fury vs Kevin Johnson: Your view
Posted: 28 Nov 2012, 16:57
by Dixonian
ShadrachSimmo wrote:Fury wide points or possible shit stoppage.
Yeah I'll go for the latter late on when Johnson will be tired from parrying straights and throwing four jabs a round.
Re: Tyson Fury vs Kevin Johnson: Your view
Posted: 28 Nov 2012, 18:19
by Teddy's Toupee
If he turns up with any ambition Johnson wins this comfortably.
Re: Tyson Fury vs Kevin Johnson: Your view
Posted: 28 Nov 2012, 19:03
by gazza8
Teddy's Toupee wrote:If he turns up with any ambition Johnson wins this comfortably.
Based on??
Re: Tyson Fury vs Kevin Johnson: Your view
Posted: 28 Nov 2012, 19:06
by fizzjambo
Teddy's Toupee wrote:If he turns up with any ambition Johnson wins this comfortably.
I disagree, but I'm not a huge Fury fan, it's based on size really. If Johnson made proper efforts to stay inside I think he would box Fury's ears off in the pocket. However I doubt he will be fit enough or willing enough to do that.
Excellent fight but I'd pick Fury to win by a wide margin, with a side bet of him getting pinged out by a single shot when getting reckless. That though would be Fury's error. If Johnson wins I think it'll be Fury's fault, not Johnson doing the right things. he could but doubt he will