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Changing results based on failed drug tests.
Posted: 11 Dec 2012, 07:46
by Rover
In 1988, Gilberto Roman failed a drug test after his second fight with Sugar Baby Rojas, a fight which he won by UD. The result wasn't changed.
A few years later, Greg Haugen failed a drug test v. Camacho in a fight he won by SD, yet that result wasn't changed according to the database.
So since there has been a lot of talk about drug testing, I thought I'd introduce history into it:
Why weren't those results changed, and when did the practice of changing wins to no-contests begin?
Re: Changing results based on failed drug tests.
Posted: 11 Dec 2012, 10:43
by Datsue
Forgive me if I'm wrong, but I believe the decision to overturn a result's commission-based.
No unilateral governing body = the usual fuckwittedness RE: policing the sport.
Re: Changing results based on failed drug tests.
Posted: 11 Dec 2012, 10:54
by Rover
Datsue wrote:Forgive me if I'm wrong, but I believe the decision to overturn a result's commission-based.
No unilateral governing body = the usual fuckwittedness RE: policing the sport.
You're absolutely right.
Both examples I cited were Nevada fights.
The NSAC didn't overturn the results, unlike, say, with Chavez/Roland on the Pac/Cotto undercard.
Boxrec has both fights as wins, not NC's.
I'm just wondering when it became a practice to overturn results when the winner flunked a drug test.
Nowadays, that's done automatically. If somebody wins and flunks a test, that puppy's getting changed to an NC immediately.
Re: Changing results based on failed drug tests.
Posted: 11 Dec 2012, 19:43
by HomicideHenry
Tyson/Golota
Botha/Schulz
Toney/Batchelder
Cobb/Barch
Re: Changing results based on failed drug tests.
Posted: 11 Dec 2012, 20:14
by Datsue
Rover wrote:Datsue wrote:Forgive me if I'm wrong, but I believe the decision to overturn a result's commission-based.
No unilateral governing body = the usual fuckwittedness RE: policing the sport.
You're absolutely right.
Both examples I cited were Nevada fights.
The NSAC didn't overturn the results, unlike, say, with Chavez/Roland on the Pac/Cotto undercard.
Boxrec has both fights as wins, not NC's.
I'm just wondering when it became a practice to overturn results when the winner flunked a drug test.
Nowadays, that's done automatically. If somebody wins and flunks a test, that puppy's getting changed to an NC immediately.
Ah... Gotcha.
No idea, then bruv, but didn't Miguel "Happy" Lora get caught taking speed (might've been meth, I can't remember)
during the fight? It might've been versus... Um... Alberto Davila? Maybe? Or am I imagining things? & that remained a Lora decision. Can't remember where that took place. Off to the search engine with me...
EDIT: Hmm. A quick trawl through the web reveals nada. I might've read it in a Sports Illustrated article about Davila, archived on their website. I'll have a butcher's tomorrow.
Re: Changing results based on failed drug tests.
Posted: 11 Dec 2012, 22:08
by Rover
Datsue wrote:Rover wrote:Datsue wrote:Forgive me if I'm wrong, but I believe the decision to overturn a result's commission-based.
No unilateral governing body = the usual fuckwittedness RE: policing the sport.
You're absolutely right.
Both examples I cited were Nevada fights.
The NSAC didn't overturn the results, unlike, say, with Chavez/Roland on the Pac/Cotto undercard.
Boxrec has both fights as wins, not NC's.
I'm just wondering when it became a practice to overturn results when the winner flunked a drug test.
Nowadays, that's done automatically. If somebody wins and flunks a test, that puppy's getting changed to an NC immediately.
Ah... Gotcha.
No idea, then bruv, but didn't Miguel "Happy" Lora get caught taking speed (might've been meth, I can't remember)
during the fight? It might've been versus... Um... Alberto Davila? Maybe? Or am I imagining things? & that remained a Lora decision. Can't remember where that took place. Off to the search engine with me...
EDIT: Hmm. A quick trawl through the web reveals nada. I might've read it in a Sports Illustrated article about Davila, archived on their website. I'll have a butcher's tomorrow.
It was their second fight at the Great Western Forum, and I think it was sugar water.