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jorge castro - john david jackson

Not so much lucky as he'd landed loads up until this point. More 'unexepected considering' - Corrales v Castillo.

Corrales wasn't lucky, bitchy for cheating to stay in the fight but the shot was legit after that.

Molinares v Starling, lucky to get away with it.

I don't think there's any such thing as a lucky punch in boxing. Even if a guy is losing every round, it's up to the other guy to keep his defense sure and to have trained hard and not run out of gas. If he runs out of gas or slips up for even a second, and the other guy is able to take advantage and land a KO shot...then in that moment he proved himself the superior fighter. Sometimes a moment is all it takes. Throwing a punch with the intention of hurting a guy and then hurting him, isn't luck, it's Boxing.

Unless guys closed there eyes and just prayed for best results , imo there is no such thing as a lucky punch

scallum wrote:Unless guys closed there eyes and just prayed for best results , imo there is no such thing as a lucky punch

Tarver's eyes were closed when he nailed RJJ, but idk about the prayer part; I guess it could have been timing.

Some people liked to make out that McCall's right hand was lucky against Lewis as he had his eyes shut.

gilgamesh wrote:I don't think there's any such thing as a lucky punch in boxing. Even if a guy is losing every round, it's up to the other guy to keep his defense sure and to have trained hard and not run out of gas. If he runs out of gas or slips up for even a second, and the other guy is able to take advantage and land a KO shot...then in that moment he proved himself the superior fighter. Sometimes a moment is all it takes. Throwing a punch with the intention of hurting a guy and then hurting him, isn't luck, it's Boxing.

if a boxer tries all night to land a bomb and can
manage at a time when he is almost taken out ...
to me there is at times luck involved.

actually i generally believe that sometimes boxers
are just unlucky. this is a milisecond game, in which
you need to open up at times if you want to win and
it can happen accidentally that you run into a hand.

of course no one will admit that, but i think you can
be called lucky if a certain shot just misses you by
five centimeters. sometimes it is not only skill and
eye that you moved your head back that fraction of
time earlier ... but that is just my thinking.

Mike Weaver KO 15 John Tate.

Was Julian Jackson's nuclear bomb on Herol Graham a lucky punch? Jackson's eyesight by that time was very poor and he had no idea where Graham's punches were coming from for 99% of the fight

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Corrales wasn't lucky, bitchy for cheating to stay in the fight but the shot was legit after that.

Eh? I'm talking about Castillo being lucky, he was out on his feet and then bingo.

Not lucky, but a sort of last throw of the dice. Throw it and hope.

I don't believe in lucky punches. Every punch a fighter throws is a claculated decision, even in desperation. If a fighter gets caught, he either didn't see it, didn't expect it, or simply either wasn't as good as claimed or got lazy.

HomicideHenry wrote:Every punch a fighter throws is a claculated decision

i doubt this.

Depends on how you define lucky, its not so much the punch they throw its the outcome of it. As an example Nigel Benn vs Anthony Logan, Benn was hurt and getting tagged he threw two massive haymakers, the first missed and the second flattened Logan. So it was lucky that Benn managed to catch Logan flush and end the fight otherwise he could have been handed his first defeat.

The Dark Destroyer wrote:I don't really believe in lucky punches, they're thrown to knock people out, if that's what they do that's exactly what they were intended to do.

man wrote:

HomicideHenry wrote:Every punch a fighter throws is a claculated decision

i doubt this.

Depends on the fighter I guess; but I would say for a tactician and counter puncher type, every punch is intended to land and is a calculated decision in order to set up other punches.

zurdo wrote:Mike Weaver KO 15 John Tate.

As I recall, Tate dominated for the first 12 1/2 rounds and then Weaver actually stunned Big John late in the 13th which changed the complexion of the fight. While the timing of the shot was fortunate, Weaver had been in control of the fight in the last few rounds.

Maybe not lucky but if we're talking punches that just turn fights on their heads - not "desperation" fluke punches but ones that totally change the way a fight was going:

Barkley-Hearns I
Eubank-Watson II

I appreciate that what passes as lucky punches are often the result of a fighter setting traps over many rounds and lulling his opponent into a false sense of security. But at the same time luck is involved in all sports.

I really don’t think Barkley thought… I’ll let this guy smash me up for a few rounds before throwing a hail mary… or Jackson thinking I won’t lay a glove on the guy for the first 10 mins then when both my eyes are almost shut from repeated jabbing I’ll throw a KO blow…

chucktaylor wrote:

scallum wrote:Unless guys closed there eyes and just prayed for best results , imo there is no such thing as a lucky punch

Tarver's eyes were closed when he nailed RJJ, but idk about the prayer part; I guess it could have been timing.

Yeah I've seen people talk about this before. I think it was coming anyway, wether it was the 2nd or the 12th

..when i asked ezzard charles if that left hook walcott kayoed him with was a lucky punch, he said, "not for me it wasn't"

Chavez v Taylor

Gatti v forgot

Louis v galentino

Johnson v Patterson

gilgamesh wrote:I don't think there's any such thing as a lucky punch in boxing. Even if a guy is losing every round, it's up to the other guy to keep his defense sure and to have trained hard and not run out of gas. If he runs out of gas or slips up for even a second, and the other guy is able to take advantage and land a KO shot...then in that moment he proved himself the superior fighter. Sometimes a moment is all it takes. Throwing a punch with the intention of hurting a guy and then hurting him, isn't luck, it's Boxing.

I agree.

I don't think there is technically such a thing called a lucky punch. It's all probability in my opinion. I think it's possible to land a perfect punch without even looking but it's also possible that a perfect punch can miss.