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Fury boxes for WBC Title, March 17th
Posted: 23 Dec 2012, 21:50
by whicker
According to his Facebook page, most likely against Chris Arreloa, assuming he gets past Stiverne, which is apparantly tonight.
Re: Fury boxes for WBC Title, March 17th
Posted: 23 Dec 2012, 22:19
by leforge
whicker wrote:According to his Facebook page, most likely against Chris Arreloa, assuming he gets past Stiverne, which is apparantly tonight.
Doubt it them two not fighting Feb 23rd?
Re: Fury boxes for WBC Title, March 17th
Posted: 23 Dec 2012, 22:19
by jameswilson
Looks like we are gonna be denied Haye vs Vitali then.
Bye bye Vitali, thanks for all those amazing fights you gave us.
Sh it cu nt.
Re: Fury boxes for WBC Title, March 17th
Posted: 24 Dec 2012, 00:39
by Horse
Champion: Vitali Klitschko
1. Chris Arreola (US)
2. Bermane Stiverne (Canada) - WBC Silver
3. Johnathon Banks (US) - WBC International
4. Tyson Fury (GB)
5. David Haye (GB)
Arreola vs Stiverne is on 23/2/13 in a WBC Final Eliminator and Banks vs Michell II is on 16/2/13 for the WBC International.
Manuel Charr is the WBC International Silver champion. Could he be fighting Fury next?
Maybe it is Fury vs Vitali.
Re: Fury boxes for WBC Title, March 17th
Posted: 24 Dec 2012, 01:55
by whicker
leforge wrote:whicker wrote:According to his Facebook page, most likely against Chris Arreloa, assuming he gets past Stiverne, which is apparantly tonight.
Doubt it them two not fighting Feb 23rd?
lol- i had down December 23rd.
At this stage I think we can assume then the March 17th date ain't gonna happen!
Re: Fury boxes for WBC Title, March 17th
Posted: 24 Dec 2012, 03:22
by Andrew
Horse wrote:Champion: Vitali Klitschko
1. Chris Arreola (US)
2. Bermane Stiverne (Canada) - WBC Silver
3. Johnathon Banks (US) - WBC International
4. Tyson Fury (GB)
5. David Haye (GB)
Arreola vs Stiverne is on 23/2/13 in a WBC Final Eliminator and Banks vs Michell II is on 16/2/13 for the WBC International.
Manuel Charr is the WBC International Silver champion. Could he be fighting Fury next?
Maybe it is Fury vs Vitali.
There's an international silver title wtf !!!
Re: Fury boxes for WBC Title, March 17th
Posted: 24 Dec 2012, 06:36
by JLP
I called this a couple of weeks back (that Fury would fight for Vitali's vacated belt) but it wasn't a particularly tricky one to foresee. BTW, I do hope it is the case that Vitali vacates and retires. The big man is a physical wreck, a shadow of what he was and more than ready to be taken by someone who wouldn't have got close a few years back. I suppose some will argue that it's better when the baton is passed with the old champ starched out and twitching on the canvas - for 'closure' - but it's always a bit of a tragic exercise, in my view.
Re: Fury boxes for WBC Title, March 17th
Posted: 24 Dec 2012, 09:00
by stevieb_8006
Naandrew wrote:Horse wrote:Champion: Vitali Klitschko
1. Chris Arreola (US)
2. Bermane Stiverne (Canada) - WBC Silver
3. Johnathon Banks (US) - WBC International
4. Tyson Fury (GB)
5. David Haye (GB)
Arreola vs Stiverne is on 23/2/13 in a WBC Final Eliminator and Banks vs Michell II is on 16/2/13 for the WBC International.
Manuel Charr is the WBC International Silver champion. Could he be fighting Fury next?
Maybe it is Fury vs Vitali.
I think the silver title has now replaced the international. But who the fuk knows?
There's an international silver title wtf !!!
Re: Fury boxes for WBC Title, March 17th
Posted: 24 Dec 2012, 10:25
by Deserter
JLP wrote:I called this a couple of weeks back (that Fury would fight for Vitali's vacated belt) but it wasn't a particularly tricky one to foresee. BTW, I do hope it is the case that Vitali vacates and retires. The big man is a physical wreck, a shadow of what he was and more than ready to be taken by someone who wouldn't have got close a few years back. I suppose some will argue that it's better when the baton is passed with the old champ starched out and twitching on the canvas - for 'closure' - but it's always a bit of a tragic exercise, in my view.
Well said. I completely agree with you.
Re: Fury boxes for WBC Title, March 17th
Posted: 24 Dec 2012, 10:52
by jameswilson
Naandrew wrote:Horse wrote:Champion: Vitali Klitschko
1. Chris Arreola (US)
2. Bermane Stiverne (Canada) - WBC Silver
3. Johnathon Banks (US) - WBC International
4. Tyson Fury (GB)
5. David Haye (GB)
Arreola vs Stiverne is on 23/2/13 in a WBC Final Eliminator and Banks vs Michell II is on 16/2/13 for the WBC International.
Manuel Charr is the WBC International Silver champion. Could he be fighting Fury next?
Maybe it is Fury vs Vitali.
There's an international silver title wtf !!!
Don't get me started. I thought until a few days ago that the WBC Silver title was had taken the place of the WBC International title and thus I didn't have a huge issue with it. Now I find out they not only still have the International title as well as the Silver title but they also have an International silver title.
Re: Fury boxes for WBC Title, March 17th
Posted: 24 Dec 2012, 10:55
by jameswilson
Also it seems I misunderstood. I isntantly assumed by the WBC title he will have meant Vitali however now it seems he means 'one of the WBC titles' thus could be fighting Arreola/Stiverne winner, Charr or Banks.
Either of those would be good fights. Charr may well be less durable than Johnson but he at least comes to throw punches.
Re: Fury boxes for WBC Title, March 17th
Posted: 24 Dec 2012, 11:27
by JLP
James, even if Fury initally fights for one of the fee generating WBC baubles rather than the main belt, I still expect a tussle for Vitali's vacated title to be the target at some point in 2013. Vitali's ego+greed+Haye are the only things that could upset the apple-cart. Haye could beat the 2013 version of Vitali.
Re: Fury boxes for WBC Title, March 17th
Posted: 24 Dec 2012, 12:32
by jameswilson
JLP wrote:James, even if Fury initally fights for one of the fee generating WBC baubles rather than the main belt, I still expect a tussle for Vitali's vacated title to be the target at some point in 2013. Vitali's ego+greed+Haye are the only things that could upset the apple-cart. Haye could beat the 2013 version of Vitali.
Yeah for sure I have no issue with Fury fighting for the WBC title even the vacant one. Mick Hennessy has always targeted the WBC title with all his fighters (certainly all the ones that spring straight into my mind, Eastman, Witter, Froch etc.) For me tho I want to see Vitali in 1 fight and 1 fight only if he chooses to fight again and that is Haye.
Re: Fury boxes for WBC Title, March 17th
Posted: 24 Dec 2012, 13:05
by ScottDetonator
It could be very interesting if David Haye was to beat Vitali and take the title. Surely, he'd have to step up his more than one fight a year policy at current and we could see some decent fights.
Re: Fury boxes for WBC Title, March 17th
Posted: 24 Dec 2012, 13:33
by lillywhite14
If Haye were to fight and beat Vitali then I reckon he would gun for Wlad again and if that couldn't be made, retire for good.
Re: Fury boxes for WBC Title, March 17th
Posted: 24 Dec 2012, 14:30
by squared circle
This. Read the article in last week's boxing news. He said he can't get up for any non-klitschko fight as doesn't want the pain of a training camp unless its them.
That said, i find it impossible to believe that if fury somehow got himself into position to hold the belt that he wouldn't be tempted by that.
Re: Fury boxes for WBC Title, March 17th
Posted: 24 Dec 2012, 14:58
by jameswilson
squared circle wrote:This. Read the article in last week's boxing news. He said he can't get up for any non-klitschko fight as doesn't want the pain of a training camp unless its them.
That said, i find it impossible to believe that if fury somehow got himself into position to hold the belt that he wouldn't be tempted by that.
I agree it may be tempting purely because Fury would run his mouth to such a point. It would be similar to what happened with Chisora except with Fury possibly being more deserving of the fight.
Re: Fury boxes for WBC Title, March 17th
Posted: 24 Dec 2012, 16:40
by fightfaninfrance
Despite the fact he is a spotlight seeking prima donna, is there anyone on here that thinks Haye wouldn't rip the title away from Fury without getting out of 3rd gear.
He must be laughing at the thought of some mug taking Vitali's title only for him to set up a mega unification fight with a wlad rematch.
Re: Fury boxes for WBC Title, March 17th
Posted: 24 Dec 2012, 16:53
by Horse
fightfaninfrance wrote:Despite the fact he is a spotlight seeking prima donna, is there anyone on here that thinks Haye wouldn't rip the title away from Fury without getting out of 3rd gear.
If Haye hopes to beat Fury then he better get into fifth gear. Fury will smash Haye up if they fight.
Re: Fury boxes for WBC Title, March 17th
Posted: 24 Dec 2012, 17:34
by Wrists
Horse wrote:fightfaninfrance wrote:Despite the fact he is a spotlight seeking prima donna, is there anyone on here that thinks Haye wouldn't rip the title away from Fury without getting out of 3rd gear.
If Haye hopes to beat Fury then he better get into fifth gear. Fury will smash Haye up if they fight.
Oh dear me
I like Fury I really do but if you think Fury smashes Haye up you're living in a dreamworld.
Fury is not a big puncher, Haye took Wlad's shots.
Haye is too fast, hits too hard for Fury
He does Fury around 6-8 rounds
Re: Fury boxes for WBC Title, March 17th
Posted: 24 Dec 2012, 17:45
by lillywhite14
Haye would ave an absolute field day with Fury. A tall, stand up guy who generally moves backwards and forwards, not particularly fast on his feet, without the power to trouble him? Tailor made for Haye.
He would blast him out in style. Different levels. Same with Price, although Price carries a lot more power he is more fragile than Fury and I think Haye would beat Price quicker than he would Tyson.
Either way, I don't envisage Haye tempting Wlad back to the ring unless he beats Vitali and revenge for the brother is the order of the day.
Re: Fury boxes for WBC Title, March 17th
Posted: 24 Dec 2012, 18:01
by Final round
Horse wrote:If Haye hopes to beat Fury then he better get into fifth gear. Fury will smash Haye up if they fight.
Re: Fury boxes for WBC Title, March 17th
Posted: 24 Dec 2012, 18:12
by Horse
lillywhite14 wrote:Haye would ave an absolute field day with Fury. A tall, stand up guy who generally moves backwards and forwards, not particularly fast on his feet, without the power to trouble him? Tailor made for Haye.
He would blast him out in style. Different levels. Same with Price, although Price carries a lot more power he is more fragile than Fury and I think Haye would beat Price quicker than he would Tyson.
Either way, I don't envisage Haye tempting Wlad back to the ring unless he beats Vitali and revenge for the brother is the order of the day.
Haye lost against Valuev (on a lot of people's scorecards) and lost almost every round against Wladimir. The best legitimate opponent that Haye has clearly beaten at heavyweight is Chisora and Fury has beaten him clearly as well.
Fury will descimate Haye, that is just the way it is. Fury doesn't have the power to trouble Haye? Barrett had Haye in trouble, so Fury has a good chance of stopping Haye.
Re: Fury boxes for WBC Title, March 17th
Posted: 24 Dec 2012, 18:58
by ashedward
Horse wrote:lillywhite14 wrote:Haye would ave an absolute field day with Fury. A tall, stand up guy who generally moves backwards and forwards, not particularly fast on his feet, without the power to trouble him? Tailor made for Haye.
He would blast him out in style. Different levels. Same with Price, although Price carries a lot more power he is more fragile than Fury and I think Haye would beat Price quicker than he would Tyson.
Either way, I don't envisage Haye tempting Wlad back to the ring unless he beats Vitali and revenge for the brother is the order of the day.
Haye lost against Valuev (on a lot of people's scorecards) and lost almost every round against Wladimir. The best legitimate opponent that Haye has clearly beaten at heavyweight is Chisora and Fury has beaten him clearly as well.
Fury will descimate Haye, that is just the way it is. Fury doesn't have the power to trouble Haye? Barrett had Haye in trouble, so Fury has a good chance of stopping Haye.
wow,except Jim Watt and a few numptys who don`t know how to score a fight Haye was the clear winner of the Valuev fight and Monte Barret didn`t have Haye in trouble,Haye slipped and Barret hit him clean when he was on the floor only for Haye to knock him out minutes later.Fury lost to Mcdermott for fucksake by most peoples scorecard.I think you are in the minority in thinking Fury would have a chance.Haye is the third best heavyweight in the world imo,just a shame he hasn`t proved it by beating the like of Poteviken and Arreola like he could of done
Re: Fury boxes for WBC Title, March 17th
Posted: 24 Dec 2012, 19:08
by Horse
ashedward wrote:wow,except Jim Watt and a few numpys who don`t know how to scorea fight Haye was the clear winner of the Valuev fight and Monte Barret didn`t have Haye in trouble,Haye slipped and Barret hit him clean when he was on the floor only for Haye to knock him out minutes later.Fury lost to Mcdermott for fucksake by most peoples scorecard.I think you are in the minority in thinking Fury would have a chance.Haye is the third best heavyweight in the world imo,just a shame he hasn`t proved it by beating the like of Poteviken and Arreola like he could of done
I scored the fight to Valuev. Haye was not impressive in that fight.