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frankenfrank wrote:De long reigning 118lbs titlist (longer reign than every noteworthy modern 118 titlist that i can think of) , whom also happened 2b a road warrior whom fought rel8ively lots of noteworthy opponents , versus d decisive conqueror of 2 of his 3 decisive conquerors that mattered.

Y can not I make it a public poll?

Sahaprom, Hasegawa, Marquez, Austin and Canizales had longer reigns than Perez.
Jibaro by decision for me.

frankenfrank wrote:

Rover wrote:

frankenfrank wrote:De long reigning 118lbs titlist (longer reign than every noteworthy modern 118 titlist that i can think of) , whom also happened 2b a road warrior whom fought rel8ively lots of noteworthy opponents , versus d decisive conqueror of 2 of his 3 decisive conquerors that mattered.

Y can not I make it a public poll?

Sahaprom, Hasegawa, Marquez, Austin and Canizales had longer reigns than Perez.
Jibaro by decision for me.

Depends on how u measure / define de length of a reign .
Who did each 1 of them fight compared 2 those Perez fought. Anyway I did not st8 that he was de longest reigning 1 , just long reigning compared 2 those who fought de best .

1 can measure it by time (which may benefit de 1ce a yr titlists) , # of defenses (which may benefit de serial bum beaters such as most if not all of those u mentioned) , # of defenses vs quality opponents by de time that they mattered and were in goos shape (which is Y i consider Raul Perez as such) , and possibly other ways .

That response made no sense. You stated that he's the longest reigning 118 "noteworthy" (huh?) titlist you can think of.
Canizales is in the HOF. Marquez will be in. Sahaprom, Hasegawa, Canizales and Austin had longer reigns, both in terms of time and number of defenses--with Rafa, he and Perez each made 7 successful defenses, though Rafa then vacated his title.
Quality of opposition has nothing to do with how long a reign is; length refers to time (or number of defenses if you want to categorize it that way).
Unless you want to tell me that Canizales isn't as noteworthy as Perez. Or that Rafa Marquez isn't.
Just two examples.

Perez was a superb fighter and on his best day, would have been a handfull for anyone.

This is crap and my previous st8ments remain in tact .
This should b dealt in a thread about sorting de 118s or particularly about Orlando Canizales compared 2 Raul Perez or something , this is a h2h thread .
Sven Ottke and Henry Maske must b top 20 P4P ATGs in your list if u have any respect 4 Orlando Canizales or any other of those names that u mentioned .

I will refrain from responding 2 this crap any further here and now in order 2 not derail my thread .[/quote]

No, your argument was crap. You won't respond because you'll get shredded again. When did I ever mention P4P lists? You discussed long reigning champions. Factually, the five I mentioned had longer reigns in terms of time, and four had more successful defenses, which you can't dispute.
And if you don't want a statement you make in your original post responded to, here's an idea: DON'T MAKE IT.

keithmoonhangover wrote:Perez was a superb fighter and on his best day, would have been a handfull for anyone.

How he lost to Richardson is beyond me.

Perez was an excellent fighter at his best, a lot more impressive than Contreras for my money.