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Latest IBHOF Inductees
Posted: 31 Dec 2012, 19:09
by Seamus
1.Myung Woo Yuh. Totally deserves it.
2.Virgil Hill. He has an argument.
3.Arturo Gatti. Absolutely ridiculous.
Re: Latest IBHOF Inductees
Posted: 31 Dec 2012, 19:20
by Rover
I'd have voted for Yuh. Gatti's a joke.
Re: Latest IBHOF Inductees
Posted: 31 Dec 2012, 19:28
by Seamus
Gatti's in. Mike O'Dowd, Petey Sarron, Jimmy Leto, Lockport Jimmy Duffy, Willie Joyce, Charley White, Bert Lytell, Santos Laciar, and a long long list of way better fighters aren't.
Re: Latest IBHOF Inductees
Posted: 31 Dec 2012, 19:33
by Rover
Seamus wrote:Gatti's in. Mike O'Dowd, Petey Sarron, Jimmy Leto, Lockport Jimmy Duffy, Willie Joyce, Charley White, Bert Lytell, Santos Laciar, and a long long list of way better fighters aren't.
Lockridge is more deserving, for Christ's sake.
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Re: Latest IBHOF Inductees
Posted: 01 Jan 2013, 06:50
by JLP
Seamus, Gatti did way more for the sport of boxing than any of those guys you mention, even though they may have all been better boxers than him. But I suppose it all depends on how you view the criteria for being inducted. He's definitely more famous.
Re: Latest IBHOF Inductees
Posted: 01 Jan 2013, 11:58
by Rover
JLP wrote:Seamus, Gatti did way more for the sport of boxing than any of those guys you mention, even though they may have all been better boxers than him. But I suppose it all depends on how you view the criteria for being inducted. He's definitely more famous.
So was Butterbean. Nigel Benn was just as popular in Britain but (correct me if I'm wrong) wasn't even on the ballot. Hamed also was quite famous but didn't make it. You're looking at it from a western perspective, where fighters from Asia don't receive the exposure unless they cross the Pacific. But boxing is a worldwide sport, and Yuh is a deserving inductee.
Re: Latest IBHOF Inductees
Posted: 01 Jan 2013, 15:25
by JLP
Rover wrote:JLP wrote:Seamus, Gatti did way more for the sport of boxing than any of those guys you mention, even though they may have all been better boxers than him. But I suppose it all depends on how you view the criteria for being inducted. He's definitely more famous.
So was Butterbean. Nigel Benn was just as popular in Britain but (correct me if I'm wrong) wasn't even on the ballot. Hamed also was quite famous but didn't make it. You're looking at it from a western perspective, where fighters from Asia don't receive the exposure unless they cross the Pacific. But boxing is a worldwide sport, and Yuh is a deserving inductee.
The IBHOF is an American thing, though, so it's no surprise that guys who are either American or, like Gatti, were superstars in America, dominate the inductee lists. No other country really does the whole hall of fame thing anyway.
Re: Latest IBHOF Inductees
Posted: 01 Jan 2013, 15:29
by Rover
JLP wrote:Rover wrote:JLP wrote:Seamus, Gatti did way more for the sport of boxing than any of those guys you mention, even though they may have all been better boxers than him. But I suppose it all depends on how you view the criteria for being inducted. He's definitely more famous.
So was Butterbean. Nigel Benn was just as popular in Britain but (correct me if I'm wrong) wasn't even on the ballot. Hamed also was quite famous but didn't make it. You're looking at it from a western perspective, where fighters from Asia don't receive the exposure unless they cross the Pacific. But boxing is a worldwide sport, and Yuh is a deserving inductee.
The IBHOF is an American thing, though, so it's no surprise that guys who are either American or, like Gatti, were superstars in America, dominate the inductee lists. No other country really does the whole hall of fame thing anyway.
Voters are from all over the world, though the IBHOF is located in the States. Glad it's becoming more international.
Re: Latest IBHOF Inductees
Posted: 01 Jan 2013, 15:52
by JLP
Is there any formally laid out criteria of what a fighter must have done to merit induction?
As a non-American I see "Hall of Fame" and without further clarification I assume that "fame" is the key ingredient. Is that not the case?
Re: Latest IBHOF Inductees
Posted: 01 Jan 2013, 16:08
by Rover
JLP wrote:Is there any formally laid out criteria of what a fighter must have done to merit induction?
As a non-American I see "Hall of Fame" and without further clarification I assume that "fame" is the key ingredient. Is that not the case?
No. Hence why fighters not as well known are inducted.