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Heavyweights: Mike Tyson vs Sonny Liston
Posted: 07 Jan 2013, 18:54
by elmersalsa
What if both fight in their primes? Who wins. Let's say, the great Mike Tyson circa 1986-89 vs the great Sonny Liston circa 1959-62...Both cleanup their divisions in their primes.
There is one winner and gotta be by KO...That is the only way I see it.
Re: Heavyweights: Mike Tyson vs Sonny Liston
Posted: 07 Jan 2013, 18:59
by SaadOffTheDeck
Liston by late stoppage or decision. That long jab would ruin Mike's night.
Re: Heavyweights: Mike Tyson vs Sonny Liston
Posted: 07 Jan 2013, 19:11
by gilgamesh
Mike would be all over Sonny in the first 4 rounds attacking the hell out of him and quite possibly rocking him on more than one occasion, once it goes a little deeper than that though. Liston's telephone pole jab starts slowly busting up Mike and he stops him late in a great fight.
Re: Heavyweights: Mike Tyson vs Sonny Liston
Posted: 07 Jan 2013, 19:44
by Seamus
Tyson inside 4.
Re: Heavyweights: Mike Tyson vs Sonny Liston
Posted: 08 Jan 2013, 05:27
by RadioElRadar
I picked Liston but I'd lean towards a decision. Not sure about there being a sure-fire KO.
Liston hits him with that ramrod jab all night. For all his faults Tyson did have a great chin so any stoppage by Liston would most likely be accumulative, I can't see him laying Tyson out early.
Re: Heavyweights: Mike Tyson vs Sonny Liston
Posted: 08 Jan 2013, 12:18
by Crease
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:That long jab would ruin Mike's night.
But Tyson fought of out the peek-a-boo hands up style, most of Sonny's jabs would be hitting Mike's hands.
So for me this fight comes down to a question of power and brutality... And in both categories, I give the edge to Iron Mike.
My prediction is:
Mike Tyson wins by knock out in 6 rounds.
Re: Heavyweights: Mike Tyson vs Sonny Liston
Posted: 08 Jan 2013, 12:36
by BoxBuzz
Hmm Battle of the bullies....they would both be a little nervous, I'd be inclined to go with Tyson if he had Cus in his corner....if not.....Liston wins.... This fight would likely be won or lost in the psyche.
Re: Heavyweights: Mike Tyson vs Sonny Liston
Posted: 08 Jan 2013, 12:43
by wouter
BoxBuzz wrote:Hmm Battle of the bullies....they would both be a little nervous, I'd be inclined to go with Tyson if he had Cus in his corner....if not.....Liston wins....
That sure helped Patterson.
Re: Heavyweights: Mike Tyson vs Sonny Liston
Posted: 08 Jan 2013, 13:20
by dempseyfire
Tyson's style is tailor-made for Liston.
Re: Heavyweights: Mike Tyson vs Sonny Liston
Posted: 08 Jan 2013, 15:02
by The 1bangkid
Crease wrote:SaadOffTheDeck wrote:That long jab would ruin Mike's night.
But Tyson fought of out the peek-a-boo hands up style, most of Sonny's jabs would be hitting Mike's hands.
So for me this fight comes down to a question of power and brutality... And in both categories, I give the edge to Iron Mike.
My prediction is:
Mike Tyson wins by knock out in 6 rounds.
Re: Heavyweights: Mike Tyson vs Sonny Liston
Posted: 08 Jan 2013, 16:49
by dr_devious
Liston would intimidate Tyson more than anybody, he was the real deal. I think Sonny takes Tyson out in the first 6 rounds
Re: Heavyweights: Mike Tyson vs Sonny Liston
Posted: 08 Jan 2013, 17:51
by MEISINGER
wouter wrote:BoxBuzz wrote:Hmm Battle of the bullies....they would both be a little nervous, I'd be inclined to go with Tyson if he had Cus in his corner....if not.....Liston wins....
That sure helped Patterson.
Re: Heavyweights: Mike Tyson vs Sonny Liston
Posted: 08 Jan 2013, 22:21
by BoxBuzz
MEISINGER wrote:wouter wrote:BoxBuzz wrote:Hmm Battle of the bullies....they would both be a little nervous, I'd be inclined to go with Tyson if he had Cus in his corner....if not.....Liston wins....
That sure helped Patterson.
Ouch! I earned that, lol but I'll go out further on this limb and say that Tyson operated on two different planes with vs without Cus. He believed in himself with Cus.....and that seemed to dissipate with Cus's departure.
The Chemistry with Patterson was different, Patterson believed in himself and didn't need anyone in that way, I don't think Patterson was dependent on others in the way that Tyson was. So Patterson was about the same fighter either way....Tyson....not so much.
Re: Heavyweights: Mike Tyson vs Sonny Liston
Posted: 14 Jan 2013, 13:27
by Ambling Alp II
D'Amato's influence may be exaggerrated. He only was Tyson's trainer for less than a year of his pro career. Tyson's big wins were all with other trainers.
Almost anything could happen in this fight. Very hard to pick.
Re: Heavyweights: Mike Tyson vs Sonny Liston
Posted: 14 Jan 2013, 13:34
by SaadOffTheDeck
Crease wrote:SaadOffTheDeck wrote:That long jab would ruin Mike's night.
But Tyson fought of out the peek-a-boo hands up style, most of Sonny's jabs would be hitting Mike's hands.
So for me this fight comes down to a question of power and brutality... And in both categories, I give the edge to Iron Mike.
My prediction is:
Mike Tyson wins by knock out in 6 rounds.
Yeah, just like Buster's did. I wouldn't give Mike an edge in power or brutality either.
Re: Heavyweights: Mike Tyson vs Sonny Liston
Posted: 14 Jan 2013, 16:24
by BoxBuzz
Ambling Alp II wrote:D'Amato's influence may be exaggerrated. He only was Tyson's trainer for less than a year of his pro career. Tyson's big wins were all with other trainers.
Almost anything could happen in this fight. Very hard to pick.
The "without" I refer to is not so much as a trainer...as important as that may have been....but he was sort of his "dad". Even though they were a bit estranged. I think it was Cus's mortal departure that taught or at least forced Mike to have thoughts about his own mortality....