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HOW MUCH MOOLAH IS AUDLEY ON...?

Posted: 23 Mar 2004, 08:58
by overhand_right
in the UK for some fucked up reason they never fill us in on purses.

i would be interested in knowing what audley got paid for his 1st big fight, v hersia the other night.

what kinda payday does danny williams recieve for his fights, as their always on the same basic level?

any ideas?

Posted: 23 Mar 2004, 09:01
by jamesmcdonnell
It's one of the biggest mysteries in boxing.

In America, everything is transparent and fighters purses are announced all the time, why is it over here that is is almost never publicised? I think boxing managers/promoters are much more guarded over here about revealing what fighters get paid...

Posted: 23 Mar 2004, 09:03
by knockout
well if he is promoting himself he will earn money for the fight (over £100k) plus A Force will earn on the show....

wasnt he on a £100k per fight for his first 10 with the Beeb, cannot see him being on less now....

Posted: 23 Mar 2004, 09:05
by jamesmcdonnell
Yeah, he was, but bear in mind all his expenses will have come out of that, he won't have got more than half of that million I reckon by the time all the other costs are factored in.

Posted: 23 Mar 2004, 09:13
by Southpaw Stylist
But he's still rich.

Posted: 23 Mar 2004, 09:14
by jamesmcdonnell
Certainly a lot better off than me, that's for sure.

Posted: 23 Mar 2004, 09:39
by knockout
jamesmcdonnell wrote:Yeah, he was, but bear in mind all his expenses will have come out of that, he won't have got more than half of that million I reckon by the time all the other costs are factored in.
yeah but factor in the sponsorships and appearances and he will be back up to a million....

Posted: 23 Mar 2004, 09:57
by jamesmcdonnell
I thought about that, but Cantor sport aren't the biggest sponsors in the world....

Posted: 23 Mar 2004, 10:01
by John
jamesmcdonnell wrote:In America, everything is transparent and fighters purses are announced all the time
Cmon James, if you believe that you'll believe anything :wink:

Posted: 23 Mar 2004, 10:32
by jamesmcdonnell
Ok John, fair enough, perhaps a bit of an exaggeration, but surely you would agree that fighters purses are more in the public domain than they are here?

I assume it is a cultural thing more than anything else.

Posted: 23 Mar 2004, 10:56
by John
In the US, the promoter of a fight agrees sum A with the promoter/agent of the boxer/opponent. The promoter/agent of the boxer/opponent agrees sum B with the manger of the boxer/opponent. The manger of the boxer/opponent agrees sum C with the boxer/opponent. Sum X - Q / J * (+ 1/2 the pull of the moon) is notified to the commission.

Posted: 23 Mar 2004, 11:04
by jamesmcdonnell
Well yes, you have a point, announced and actual purses are two different things of course, as Pacquaio's case recently illustrated.

However, why do you think it is that people are generally loathe to report purses unless it is a purse bid and they have no choice in this country, do you think most promoters figure it's not really anyone's business? I suppose you could make an argument for that, and also that American razzamatazz makes people feel compelled to announce huge purses to lend an air of the grandiose to the event....

Posted: 23 Mar 2004, 11:10
by John
Simply because it's confidential information, the promoter doesn't want the TV company knowing, the manager doesn't want the boxer knowing, the boxer doesn't want his wife knowing etc.

Posted: 23 Mar 2004, 11:13
by jamesmcdonnell
That's what I figured, especially with regard to a promoter and their fighters I would dare say, otherwise too much cause for jealousy and demands for bigger pay packets.

I do think it's largely a cultural thing.

I agree with you that of course everything is not as it seems in America, but most boxing writers in America seem to have a pretty fair idea of what goes on, I couldn't say the same myself.

Do the British boxing board have to be informed of all payments made with regard to the fight?

Posted: 23 Mar 2004, 11:13
by bennie
JohnShep wrote:Simply because it's confidential information, the promoter doesn't want the TV company knowing, the manger doesn't want the boxer knowing, boxer doesn't want his wife knowing etc.
His wife most if all. :D
On that note, happy birthday Joe Calzaghe, 32 today. Should be on a promise.

Posted: 23 Mar 2004, 12:45
by overhand_right
hmmm, well thanks for the responses, but im still in the dark as to what payday audley got the other night.

and what about danny williams fights?

Posted: 23 Mar 2004, 12:57
by dondada
bennie wrote: His wife most if all. :D
On that note, happy birthday Joe Calzaghe, 32 today. Should be on a promise.
Imagine Joe talking this one up in his Newbridge accent: "I'll be too quick for her, see! She won't be able to take my POWA!" :lol:

Posted: 23 Mar 2004, 13:02
by jamesmcdonnell
Bloody Marvellllllllllous luv...innat!

Posted: 24 Mar 2004, 06:03
by overhand_right
so we dont know then...?

Posted: 24 Mar 2004, 06:28
by MightyWarrior
Errr..no

Posted: 25 Mar 2004, 08:32
by Loynesy
As a non-boxing aside, my best mate's Dad was a manager at Greenock docks in the 1970s. The lads wanted "embarassment money" for unloading toilet seats and threatened to go on strike if they didn't get it.

Jimmy (my mate's Dad) told them they were more than welcome to go on strike but if they did he would take an advert in the local Greenock rag listing each man's weekly wage.

Strike averted.