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Vaudeville Villain wrote:Pausanias 8.40.4–5ca. a.d.170

There is a similar story [to the one about the death of Arrhichion, which I know about the Argives in the case of Kreugas, a boxer from Epidamnos. The Argives gave the crown of victory at the Nemean Games to Kreugas although he was dead, because his opponent, Damoxenos of Syracuse, broke the agreement which had been reached between them. While they were boxing evening came on and they agreed in front of witnesses that each would allow the other in turn to land a punch. Now at that time boxers did not yet wear the sharp himas on the wrist of each hand, but boxed with the soft himantes which were bound in the hollow of the hand so that the fingers were left bare. These soft himantes were thin oxhide thongs plaited together in some ancient way.

Now Kreugas aimed his punch at Damoxenos’ head. Then Damoxenos told Kreugas to lift his arm and, when Kreugas had done so, Damoxenos struck him under the ribs with his fingers straight out. The combination of his sharp fingernails and the force of his blow drove his hand into Kreugas’ guts. He grabbed Kreugas’ intestines and tore them out and Kreugas died on the spot. The Argives expelled Damoxenos on the ground that he had broken his agreement by giving his opponent several blows [i.e. one for each of his fingers] instead of the agreed-upon one blow. They gave the victory to the dead Kreugas and erected a statue of him in Argos.

Luis Santana can relate to this.

Quite clearly the forefathers of the WBC were involved.

There will be a stewards's inquiry. It was a perfectly legal body punch. I have listed it as a KO win for Damoxenos on the Boxrec database.

Tomasino wrote:

Vaudeville Villain wrote:Pausanias 8.40.4–5ca. a.d.170

There is a similar story [to the one about the death of Arrhichion, which I know about the Argives in the case of Kreugas, a boxer from Epidamnos. The Argives gave the crown of victory at the Nemean Games to Kreugas although he was dead, because his opponent, Damoxenos of Syracuse, broke the agreement which had been reached between them. While they were boxing evening came on and they agreed in front of witnesses that each would allow the other in turn to land a punch. Now at that time boxers did not yet wear the sharp himas on the wrist of each hand, but boxed with the soft himantes which were bound in the hollow of the hand so that the fingers were left bare. These soft himantes were thin oxhide thongs plaited together in some ancient way.

Now Kreugas aimed his punch at Damoxenos’ head. Then Damoxenos told Kreugas to lift his arm and, when Kreugas had done so, Damoxenos struck him under the ribs with his fingers straight out. The combination of his sharp fingernails and the force of his blow drove his hand into Kreugas’ guts. He grabbed Kreugas’ intestines and tore them out and Kreugas died on the spot. The Argives expelled Damoxenos on the ground that he had broken his agreement by giving his opponent several blows [i.e. one for each of his fingers] instead of the agreed-upon one blow. They gave the victory to the dead Kreugas and erected a statue of him in Argos.

Luis Santana can relate to this.

Quite clearly the forefathers of the WBC were involved.

It must be the worst case of going over the score in punch for a punch history.

Is it possible to do such a blow to a trained fighter? (as I'd imagine they had pretty solid stomachs)

Vaudeville Villain wrote:

It was a flash knockout, by all accounts.

Vaudeville Villain wrote:

Tomasino wrote:

Vaudeville Villain wrote:Pausanias 8.40.4–5ca. a.d.170

There is a similar story [to the one about the death of Arrhichion, which I know about the Argives in the case of Kreugas, a boxer from Epidamnos. The Argives gave the crown of victory at the Nemean Games to Kreugas although he was dead, because his opponent, Damoxenos of Syracuse, broke the agreement which had been reached between them. While they were boxing evening came on and they agreed in front of witnesses that each would allow the other in turn to land a punch. Now at that time boxers did not yet wear the sharp himas on the wrist of each hand, but boxed with the soft himantes which were bound in the hollow of the hand so that the fingers were left bare. These soft himantes were thin oxhide thongs plaited together in some ancient way.

Now Kreugas aimed his punch at Damoxenos’ head. Then Damoxenos told Kreugas to lift his arm and, when Kreugas had done so, Damoxenos struck him under the ribs with his fingers straight out. The combination of his sharp fingernails and the force of his blow drove his hand into Kreugas’ guts. He grabbed Kreugas’ intestines and tore them out and Kreugas died on the spot. The Argives expelled Damoxenos on the ground that he had broken his agreement by giving his opponent several blows [i.e. one for each of his fingers] instead of the agreed-upon one blow. They gave the victory to the dead Kreugas and erected a statue of him in Argos.

Luis Santana can relate to this.

Quite clearly the forefathers of the WBC were involved.

It was a flash knockout, by all accounts.

I see you take your research very seriously. You have discovered the origins of a well known boxing occurrence and proved that Indo Europeans did indeed visit and civilise Mexico in ancient prehistory.

Best case of weak to the body I've ever heard of.

Rumours that the great unwashed masses lolled while watching on ΓΙ:ΟΥΤΟΥΜΠ are unconfirmed.

Fair stoppage