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On the scorecards the epic 15 round battle between hagler and duran fell to the last two rounds which decided it.

Suppose history had been different and Duran had won the last 2 rounds with a similar effort to round 12 and won the fight becoming the first man to win world titles at 4 weights.

Its hard to imagine in any way Duran just retiring after that.
Undoubtedly the Hearns fight would have been bigger bucks with a defeat at the end of it. A Hagler rematch would have been big bucks too and hell SRL would likely have cashed in a 3rd fight in 84 not 89.
So its pretty easy to see how on such a high after beating Hagler, Duran would probably get fat again cash in and lose any of the above fights. There is a chance he would be motivated in a 3rd SRL fight in 84 but equally perhaps not

The question is this..........irrespective of how ignominious Durans career trajectory might continue

a) how much higher would his stock as an ATG be for beating Hagler.
b) how much higher would it be in the extremely unlikely event after beating Hagler Duran retired
c) If he beat Hagler and than SRL rushed in to fight him at 160, jumping over hagler and hearns, in 84 and Duran was in his best shape mentally and physically and beat a rusty SRL and retired.......how much higher would the mystique of Duran be in the ATG list?

man oh man
i love the alternate universe fights

this was a distinct possibility...it could of happened
it makes it so exciting

duran would of been considered at least top 3 p4p all time

i do not think leonard would of came back any earlier

i do think hagler would of beaten him in a rematch

and as for hearns...bad match up for duran and it would end the same way it did

but the win over hagler would definately move him up a few notches in atg status

I hope this thread doesn't end up in another slanging match (which is still hilarious btw)
a) how much higher would his stock as an ATG be for beating Hagler.
How much higher do you want it? Everyone real boxing fan growing up in the seventies and eighties near enough idolise seven or eight (non-heavyweights people) HOS is right in there. (that's Hands of Stone people)
b) how much higher would it be in the extremely unlikely event after beating Hagler Duran retired
See above
my view of Duran didn't shift when he got beat by Kirkland Laing.

c) If he beat Hagler and than SRL rushed in to fight him at 160, jumping over hagler and hearns, in 84 and Duran was in his best shape mentally and physically and beat a rusty SRL and retired.......how much higher would the mystique of Duran be in the ATG list?
See above
Duran gave such a good account v Barkley in '89 then got his boxing lesson by SRL straight afterwards so all this is redundant anyways.
His star couldn't be higher really
An ATG is really as good as it gets unfortunately.
Not up there with Ali, SRR, JL, SK, but makes the top 10/15 just (as does SRL maybe?) Hagler doesn't (and I'm a Hagler mark)
Roberto "Hands of Stone" Duran = Legend

I hope this thread doesn't end up in another slanging match (which is still hilarious btw)
a) how much higher would his stock as an ATG be for beating Hagler.
How much higher do you want it? Everyone real boxing fan growing up in the seventies and eighties near enough idolise seven or eight (non-heavyweights people) HOS is right in there. (that's Hands of Stone people)
b) how much higher would it be in the extremely unlikely event after beating Hagler Duran retired
See above
my view of Duran didn't shift when he got beat by Kirkland Laing.

c) If he beat Hagler and than SRL rushed in to fight him at 160, jumping over hagler and hearns, in 84 and Duran was in his best shape mentally and physically and beat a rusty SRL and retired.......how much higher would the mystique of Duran be in the ATG list?
See above
Duran gave such a good account v Barkley in '89 then got his boxing lesson by SRL straight afterwards so all this is redundant anyways.
His star couldn't be higher really
An ATG is really as good as it gets unfortunately.
Not up there with Ali, SRR, JL, SK, but makes the top 10/15 just (as does SRL maybe?) Hagler doesn't (and I'm a Hagler mark)
Roberto "Hands of Stone" Duran = Legend