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Re: allegedly stands firm...
Posted: 09 Mar 2013, 06:36
by earsjohn
There may well be contracts in place but that certainly doesn't mean that contractual obligations have been met (potentially on either side). Either way, I can't see any way we'll see Burns in the ring again in 2013.
Re: allegedly stands firm...
Posted: 09 Mar 2013, 06:45
by whiskey
Warren comes out swinging.
A contract is a contract as they say, let the court battle commence.
Re: allegedly stands firm...
Posted: 09 Mar 2013, 07:09
by JimJim2009
I wonder if the words "I like Ricky and I don't want to fall out with him" mean something like "I have him under contract but have breached the terms by paying him late so I would rather this didn't go to court"............
The risk of fwank pressing ahead and forcing all sides into the April 20th date is that, if for whatever reason Burns vs Vasquez fell through AGAIN, surely the situation would be irretrievable ?
On a sidenote, if ever there was reason not to buy tickets from this shyster, its what has come out over the past few days regarding the April 20th date. Fwank said on Monday that Burns vs Vasquez had been rescheduled for that date, the venue was booked, and everything was on. Burns obviously hadn't agreed to this, and it turns out that neither had Vasquez. His camp have said so. They're not necessarily against the date, but they hadn't agreed to it at the time fwank went public.
I call him a shyster because after hundreds of paying fans have lost out on the March 16th date, fwank goes ahead and announces the fight and show is rescheduled for April 20th, when it comes to light afterwards that neither fighter had actually agreed to it. This fxxker would sell tickets to fans on that basis. That is crooked in my view.
Re: allegedly stands firm...
Posted: 09 Mar 2013, 07:20
by dbf
Kevin Mitchell from the Guardian has done a great job of covering this whole thing. Great insight and excellently written.
Re: allegedly stands firm...
Posted: 09 Mar 2013, 07:30
by Ratchet Exits Nu
I run dis!
Bunny rules!!!
W Promotions...

Re: allegedly stands firm...
Posted: 09 Mar 2013, 07:40
by Parson Cross
I'm shocked that anyone is surprised by this development.
Let battle commence.
Re: allegedly stands firm...
Posted: 09 Mar 2013, 07:43
by 15829
Eddies announcing his latest 'major' signing on Monday at 1
Re: allegedly stands firm...
Posted: 09 Mar 2013, 07:45
by ThereByTheGrace
Same sh!t different day.
Jelly and ice cream....
Re: allegedly stands firm...
Posted: 09 Mar 2013, 08:07
by Parson Cross
Well if its Vassell that's the Gavin fight off.
Is the announcement confirmed Mark ?
Re: allegedly stands firm...
Posted: 09 Mar 2013, 08:17
by greenyox3
The Dark Destroyer wrote: All of these people, including Alex Morrison, [talking] about no contracts … some time early this evening, certainly no later than Monday, will all be receiving solicitor's letters asking for apologies and damages.
Is that his answer to everything?
Re: allegedly stands firm...
Posted: 09 Mar 2013, 08:18
by 15829
No but he's a free agent and don't think Matchroom will go near Burns till he's officially free from Frank
Re: allegedly stands firm...
Posted: 09 Mar 2013, 08:28
by whiskey
I hear the news has rattled the Batcave.

Re: allegedly stands firm...
Posted: 09 Mar 2013, 09:44
by Bard of Boxrec
greenyox3 wrote:The Dark Destroyer wrote: All of these people, including Alex Morrison, [talking] about no contracts … some time early this evening, certainly no later than Monday, will all be receiving solicitor's letters asking for apologies and damages.
Is that his answer to everything?
Allegedly!
Re: allegedly stands firm...
Posted: 09 Mar 2013, 11:57
by Finn
Is there a reason Warrens fighters seem to be so disloyal to him? With all respect to bomber he did get him a world title fight, same with burns 2 i believe and had another one lined up, he arguably made Hatton, Calzaghe, Nas and kept khans career on track when he lost to prescot by landing him a fight with Barerra. Ok Brook was getting nowhere and i can see why he left but other than that he seems to try and get the big fights if his fighters want them. The fighters that leave are the ones that should be staying and the ones that stay like clev who are still sat padding out their records are the ones that should be leaving. Is he that bad of a guy or is it just a case of money talks?
Hearn himself was saying the other night that he would like to sign Anthony Joshua but his managers just dont seem to understand that the money he is expecting just isnt realistic or available.
Re: allegedly stands firm...
Posted: 09 Mar 2013, 13:14
by Final round
G0mez wrote:I hear the news has rattled the Batcave.


good one
Re: allegedly stands firm...
Posted: 09 Mar 2013, 17:43
by Bard of Boxrec
Finn wrote:
Hearn himself was saying the other night that he would like to sign Anthony Joshua but his managers just dont seem to understand that the money he is expecting just isnt realistic or available.
oh god, yet another Olympian with an inflated opinion of his worth before he has done shit.
Why are so many young pros like this these days?
Re: allegedly stands firm...
Posted: 09 Mar 2013, 18:11
by banjo
Finn wrote:Is there a reason Warrens fighters seem to be so disloyal to him? With all respect to bomber he did get him a world title fight, same with burns 2 i believe and had another one lined up, he arguably made Hatton, Calzaghe, Nas and kept khans career on track when he lost to prescot by landing him a fight with Barerra. Ok Brook was getting nowhere and i can see why he left but other than that he seems to try and get the big fights if his fighters want them. The fighters that leave are the ones that should be staying and the ones that stay like clev who are still sat padding out their records are the ones that should be leaving. Is he that bad of a guy or is it just a case of money talks?
Hearn himself was saying the other night that he would like to sign Anthony Joshua but his managers just dont seem to understand that the money he is expecting just isnt realistic or available.
Regarding Hatton, Ricky said something along the lines of too many big fights being lined up for him weren't coming off, Kelson Pinto, Sharmba Mitchell etc. and he ends up fighting the likes of Dennis Pedersen and Carlos Vilches and he was pissed off over something that happened the night he fought Ray Oliveira and decided there and then that the Tszyu fight would be his last with Frank. He went into it in some detail in his bio.
The door swings both ways in my opinion Frank wouldn't hesitate to drop a fighter who wasn't performing as expected and rightly so but he has to accept that if a fighter feels his career would be better off elsewhere then he needs to let the fighter go.
Re: allegedly stands firm...
Posted: 09 Mar 2013, 18:15
by banjo
Riddick Blowe wrote:oh god, yet another Olympian with an inflated opinion of his worth before he has done shit.
Why are so many young pros like this these days?
It's one of the things which irks me, nobody should ever demand to make a living from a sport, they should be thankful they make any money from it.
Re: allegedly stands firm...
Posted: 09 Mar 2013, 18:34
by 15829
According to Goldnenboy Ricky is still under contract
Re: allegedly stands firm...
Posted: 10 Mar 2013, 16:09
by dbf
Love how Warren now claiming he promoted two of the biggest shows last year - Burns Mitchell and Chisora Haye. Correct me if Im wrong but he wasn't the promoter for Chisora Haye due to the whole board thing. We all know he promoted it really but now he openly admits. Board are a joke.
Re: allegedly stands firm...
Posted: 10 Mar 2013, 16:20
by gobbles
Riddick Blowe wrote:Finn wrote:
Hearn himself was saying the other night that he would like to sign Anthony Joshua but his managers just dont seem to understand that the money he is expecting just isnt realistic or available.
oh god, yet another Olympian with an inflated opinion of his worth before he has done shit.
Why are so many young pros like this these days?
So winning an Olympic gold medal equates to having "done shit"?
Re: allegedly stands firm...
Posted: 10 Mar 2013, 16:38
by Finn
gobbles wrote:Riddick Blowe wrote:Finn wrote:
Hearn himself was saying the other night that he would like to sign Anthony Joshua but his managers just dont seem to understand that the money he is expecting just isnt realistic or available.
oh god, yet another Olympian with an inflated opinion of his worth before he has done shit.
Why are so many young pros like this these days?
So winning an Olympic gold medal equates to having "done shit"?
Im not convinced he will be that great of a pro.
Re: allegedly stands firm...
Posted: 10 Mar 2013, 16:41
by Jack B
dbf wrote:Love how Warren now claiming he promoted two of the biggest shows last year - Burns Mitchell and Chisora Haye. Correct me if Im wrong but he wasn't the promoter for Chisora Haye due to the whole board thing. We all know he promoted it really but now he openly admits. Board are a joke.
Ye that really irks me! Was that because of the Board though? I got the impression he was covering himself 'morally' because after the Munich incident he said he would never promote a fight between Haye-Chisora, therefore the fight was promoted by BN (who FW claimed he owned 5% of, which wasn't true either, accounts showed he was the majority shareholder?)?
Re: allegedly stands firm...
Posted: 10 Mar 2013, 16:52
by earsjohn
Jack B wrote:dbf wrote:Love how Warren now claiming he promoted two of the biggest shows last year - Burns Mitchell and Chisora Haye. Correct me if Im wrong but he wasn't the promoter for Chisora Haye due to the whole board thing. We all know he promoted it really but now he openly admits. Board are a joke.
Ye that really irks me! Was that because of the Board though? I got the impression he was covering himself
'morally' because after the Munich incident he said he would never promote a fight between Haye-Chisora, therefore the fight was promoted by BN (who FW claimed he owned 5% of, which wasn't true either, accounts showed he was the majority shareholder?)?
Morals? In boxing?? Ha ha ha ha.
Re: allegedly stands firm...
Posted: 10 Mar 2013, 18:42
by Jack B
earsjohn wrote:Jack B wrote:dbf wrote:Love how Warren now claiming he promoted two of the biggest shows last year - Burns Mitchell and Chisora Haye. Correct me if Im wrong but he wasn't the promoter for Chisora Haye due to the whole board thing. We all know he promoted it really but now he openly admits. Board are a joke.
Ye that really irks me! Was that because of the Board though? I got the impression he was covering himself
'morally' because after the Munich incident he said he would never promote a fight between Haye-Chisora, therefore the fight was promoted by BN (who FW claimed he owned 5% of, which wasn't true either, accounts showed he was the majority shareholder?)?
Morals? In boxing?? Ha ha ha ha.
Good point - I'm a bit wet round the earsjohn.