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Archie Moore at his very best vs....
Posted: 12 Mar 2013, 18:56
by yancey
Rocky Marciano
Floyd Patterson
Ingemar Johansson
Muhammad Ali
Joe Frazier
Jerry Quarry
Figure 15 rounds and all of the above at their best.
What happens? Does the Mongoose beat any of them?
Re: Archie Moore at his very best vs....
Posted: 12 Mar 2013, 19:07
by MEISINGER
beats patterson,johansen and quarry
losses the rest
Re: Archie Moore at his very best vs....
Posted: 12 Mar 2013, 19:58
by gilgamesh
Beats Johansson, loses to the rest.
Re: Archie Moore at his very best vs....
Posted: 12 Mar 2013, 20:12
by yancey
gilgamesh wrote:Beats Johansson, loses to the rest.
Agree with this.
Re: Archie Moore at his very best vs....
Posted: 12 Mar 2013, 21:21
by HomicideHenry
yancey wrote:Rocky Marciano
Floyd Patterson
Ingemar Johansson
Muhammad Ali
Joe Frazier
Jerry Quarry
Figure 15 rounds and all of the above at their best.
What happens? Does the Mongoose beat any of them?
Well, when Archie was at his peak as a heavyweight, he lost to Marciano and Patterson, so why they are even on the list is beyond me. The same Moore who beat Valdes, Baker, DeJohn, etc. was the same Moore who lost to them. I think he has a good chance of making Johansson look like an amateur, but if he gets caught with 'The Hammer of Thor', its anyone's guess what could happen. Ali outboxes him in a close, but unaminous decision. Frazier stops him in around ten rounds. Quarry and Moore have a barnburner of a fight, with Archie pulling off a decision victory by a narow margin.
Re: Archie Moore at his very best vs....
Posted: 12 Mar 2013, 21:32
by BoxBuzz
As a genuine light heavy, he stands a good chance against any and all. Including Tunney and Charles.
But against the very best of the HW's such as Ali, Frazier and Quarry?.....not so.
He is my favorite fighter of all time.
Re: Archie Moore at his very best vs....
Posted: 12 Mar 2013, 21:40
by MEISINGER
HomicideHenry wrote:yancey wrote:Rocky Marciano
Floyd Patterson
Ingemar Johansson
Muhammad Ali
Joe Frazier
Jerry Quarry
Figure 15 rounds and all of the above at their best.
What happens? Does the Mongoose beat any of them?
Well, when Archie was at his peak as a heavyweight, he lost to Marciano and Patterson, so why they are even on the list is beyond me. The same Moore who beat Valdes, Baker, DeJohn, etc. was the same Moore who lost to them. I think he has a good chance of making Johansson look like an amateur, but if he gets caught with 'The Hammer of Thor', its anyone's guess what could happen. Ali outboxes him in a close, but unaminous decision. Frazier stops him in around ten rounds. Quarry and Moore have a barnburner of a fight, with Archie pulling off a decision victory by a narow margin.
so moore was at his peak at 40 years old and 180 plus fights when he fought patterson?
he was way over the hill
Re: Archie Moore at his very best vs....
Posted: 12 Mar 2013, 22:00
by HomicideHenry
MEISINGER wrote:HomicideHenry wrote:yancey wrote:Rocky Marciano
Floyd Patterson
Ingemar Johansson
Muhammad Ali
Joe Frazier
Jerry Quarry
Figure 15 rounds and all of the above at their best.
What happens? Does the Mongoose beat any of them?
Well, when Archie was at his peak as a heavyweight, he lost to Marciano and Patterson, so why they are even on the list is beyond me. The same Moore who beat Valdes, Baker, DeJohn, etc. was the same Moore who lost to them. I think he has a good chance of making Johansson look like an amateur, but if he gets caught with 'The Hammer of Thor', its anyone's guess what could happen. Ali outboxes him in a close, but unaminous decision. Frazier stops him in around ten rounds. Quarry and Moore have a barnburner of a fight, with Archie pulling off a decision victory by a narow margin.
so moore was at his peak at 40 years old and 180 plus fights when he fought patterson?
he was way over the hill
He wasnt a heavyweight prior to that, was he? Except for maybe a handful of times against no-namers? I can't see the LHW or MW "prime" Moore being capable of doing the job any better than he was at 40. It was solely his experience that made him a damn good heavyweight.