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Greatest Scoring Discrepancy Of Alltime
Posted: 18 Mar 2013, 12:42
by Seamus
Off hand the biggest I can think of is Minter v Antuofermo I with one judge having Minter winning by 12 while another had Antuofermo ahead by 2 for a total difference of 14 pts. For some reason I seem to recall one as bad or worse coming out of Japan in the lower weights, but I'll have to find it first.
Re: Greatest Scoring Discrepancy Of Alltime
Posted: 18 Mar 2013, 12:56
by Senya13
1960-01-22 Sugar Ray Robinson L-SD15 Paul Pender
judge: Joe Santoro 147-138 | judge: John Norton 142-148
Re: Greatest Scoring Discrepancy Of Alltime
Posted: 18 Mar 2013, 12:59
by Rover
Pintor/Zarate was quite wide.
Or how about Mijares/Navarro where one judge had it 120-108 Navarro while the other two scored for Mijares.
Jones/Canizales was also huge.
Re: Greatest Scoring Discrepancy Of Alltime
Posted: 18 Mar 2013, 13:05
by Rover
It was an UD, but how about Czyz/O'Mara? One judge had it 100-71! Another had it 100-89.
Re: Greatest Scoring Discrepancy Of Alltime
Posted: 18 Mar 2013, 13:15
by Rover
Sanchez/Cowdell was also huge; how one judge had that fight for Cowdell is beyond me.
Re: Greatest Scoring Discrepancy Of Alltime
Posted: 18 Mar 2013, 13:29
by Rover
Kenny Keene v. Bobby Crabtree:
One judge had it 120-108 for Keene.
Another had it 119-111 for Crabtree.

Re: Greatest Scoring Discrepancy Of Alltime
Posted: 18 Mar 2013, 14:38
by gilgamesh
Rover wrote:It was an UD, but how about Czyz/O'Mara? One judge had it 100-71! Another had it 100-89.
How the hell do you wind up with the 100-71 scorecard? Was he scoring rounds 10-5 or something?
Re: Greatest Scoring Discrepancy Of Alltime
Posted: 18 Mar 2013, 15:08
by MEISINGER
gilgamesh wrote:Rover wrote:It was an UD, but how about Czyz/O'Mara? One judge had it 100-71! Another had it 100-89.
How the hell do you wind up with the 100-71 scorecard? Was he scoring rounds 10-5 or something?
no it was an even fight until the tenth
he scored it 10-to negative 29
real bad round for o'mara
yeah no idea how you can score a fight like that
Re: Greatest Scoring Discrepancy Of Alltime
Posted: 18 Mar 2013, 16:05
by giacomino
Seamus wrote:Off hand the biggest I can think of is Minter v Antuofermo I with one judge having Minter winning by 12 while another had Antuofermo ahead by 2 for a total difference of 14 pts. For some reason I seem to recall one as bad or worse coming out of Japan in the lower weights, but I'll have to find it first.
The British judge who scored it 149-137 (Roland Dankin) was accused of signally Minter's corner, if I remember correctly. He gave Antuofermo one round despite that fact that it was a close fight and Antuofermo was credited with a knockdown (although dubious).
One of the great Japanese scores was Katsushige Kawashima defending his belt in Japan vs Jose Navarro. Scores were 115-114, 115-113 for the local fighter, 120-109 for Navarro
One of the older fights I remember a big disparity in was in Venezuela in 1965, when Eddie Perkins defended against local star, Carlos Hernandez. Hernandez won a split decision, with two Venezuelan judges scoring it 146-142, 143-142 for the local guy and the great Henry Armstrong scoring it 150-139 for Perkins: a swing of 15 points.
Re: Greatest Scoring Discrepancy Of Alltime
Posted: 18 Mar 2013, 16:13
by giacomino
Another 15-point swing came when Ki-Soo Kim, the guy who won a split decision vs Nino Benvenuti in South Korea to take his junior mw belt, got a split decision in 1967 defending against American Freddie Little in South Korea. Two South Korean judges scored it 72-68, 71-69 for Kim, and the American judge scored it 75-64 for Little.
Re: Greatest Scoring Discrepancy Of Alltime
Posted: 18 Mar 2013, 19:55
by Seamus
Turns out both Pender vs Robinson bouts had huge discrepancies in the scoring. 15 in the first, 16 in the second.
Re: Greatest Scoring Discrepancy Of Alltime
Posted: 19 Mar 2013, 01:59
by Rover
gilgamesh wrote:Rover wrote:It was an UD, but how about Czyz/O'Mara? One judge had it 100-71! Another had it 100-89.
How the hell do you wind up with the 100-71 scorecard? Was he scoring rounds 10-5 or something?
He scored a bunch of 10-7s, obviously, and there weren't any knockdowns even!
Re: Greatest Scoring Discrepancy Of Alltime
Posted: 19 Mar 2013, 02:01
by Rover
MEISINGER wrote:gilgamesh wrote:Rover wrote:It was an UD, but how about Czyz/O'Mara? One judge had it 100-71! Another had it 100-89.
How the hell do you wind up with the 100-71 scorecard? Was he scoring rounds 10-5 or something?
no it was an even fight until the tenth
he scored it 10-to negative 29
real bad round for o'mara
yeah no idea how you can score a fight like that
Actually, if it were even through 9, it would be 90-90, and -29 would reduce George's score to 61!
10--19 Czyz in the 10th!
:)
Re: Greatest Scoring Discrepancy Of Alltime
Posted: 19 Mar 2013, 02:03
by Rover
giacomino wrote:Seamus wrote:Off hand the biggest I can think of is Minter v Antuofermo I with one judge having Minter winning by 12 while another had Antuofermo ahead by 2 for a total difference of 14 pts. For some reason I seem to recall one as bad or worse coming out of Japan in the lower weights, but I'll have to find it first.
The British judge who scored it 149-137 (Roland Dankin) was accused of signally Minter's corner, if I remember correctly. He gave Antuofermo one round despite that fact that it was a close fight and Antuofermo was credited with a knockdown (although dubious).
One of the great Japanese scores was Katsushige Kawashima defending his belt in Japan vs Jose Navarro. Scores were 115-114, 115-113 for the local fighter, 120-109 for Navarro
One of the older fights I remember a big disparity in was in Venezuela in 1965, when Eddie Perkins defended against local star, Carlos Hernandez. Hernandez won a split decision, with two Venezuelan judges scoring it 146-142, 143-142 for the local guy and the great Henry Armstrong scoring it 150-139 for Perkins: a swing of 15 points.
What is it with Navarro fights? Mijares/Navarro was even wider in terms of a gap than Kawashima/Navarro!
Re: Greatest Scoring Discrepancy Of Alltime
Posted: 19 Mar 2013, 02:05
by Rover
DetroitHxC wrote:He was using that one guy's scoring method...Evander?

Re: Greatest Scoring Discrepancy Of Alltime
Posted: 19 Mar 2013, 02:06
by Rover
Seamus wrote:Turns out both Pender vs Robinson bouts had huge discrepancies in the scoring. 15 in the first, 16 in the second.
Not quite Keene/Crabtree, Mijares/Navarro or Czyz/O'Mara territory, though!
:)