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How would the Brothers K got on against the Heavyweight stars of the 1990s in the shape of

Mike Tyson
David Tua
Evander Holyfield
Michael Moorer
George Foreman
and Riddick Bowe

They both beat Tua.

They both lose to Holyfield, Bowe.

Wlad loses to Foreman & Tyson while Vitali decisions them both.

Moorer is a tough call. I like him to out-box Vitali, I think Wlad might catch him with something.

I think Vitali beats all except Holyfield and Bowe.

Wladimir beats all except Holyfield. Bowe, Foreman, Tyson and Tua all have puncher's chance, but I think Wladimir is good enough to outbox all of them. He'd have the toughest time with Bowe.

IRLangmaid25 wrote:How would the Brothers K got on against the Heavyweight stars of the 1990s in the shape of

Mike Tyson
David Tua
Evander Holyfield
Michael Moorer
George Foreman
and Riddick Bowe

Tyson of early 90s > Wlad inside 5,,, but Vit wins mid to late (Mike of 80s different kettle of fish)
Wlad and Vit UD Tuaman, but a couple of scares along the way for both
Holyfield > both too savvy for Wlad, cuts Vit to ribbons by hook or by crook
Moorer....hmmm like Moorer a lot...but head before heart..Wlad/Vit UD
George of 90s loses UD to both, but has more success with Vit
Bowe..prime Bowe out guts both Ks

just my opinion

si7dog7 wrote:

IRLangmaid25 wrote:How would the Brothers K got on against the Heavyweight stars of the 1990s in the shape of

Mike Tyson
David Tua
Evander Holyfield
Michael Moorer
George Foreman
and Riddick Bowe

Tyson of early 90s > Wlad inside 5,,, but Vit wins mid to late (Mike of 80s different kettle of fish)
Wlad and Vit UD Tuaman, but a couple of scares along the way for both
Holyfield > both too savvy for Wlad, cuts Vit to ribbons by hook or by crook
Moorer....hmmm like Moorer a lot...but head before heart..Wlad/Vit UD
George of 90s loses UD to both, but has more success with Vit
Bowe..prime Bowe out guts both Ks

just my opinion

i agree

90's Tyson can't beat the Klitschko's in my view. Of course he has a puncher's chance with Wlad, but that's it. I think Wlad at his best can jab Mike from a distance and wear him down with his size. Mike always had trouble with particularly tall guys, even ones that weren't all that talented. The Klitschko's along with Bowe and Lennox Lewis are the most talented, exceptionally tall fighters of all time. Both rank ahead of Bowe in my view, Bowe would be handful for either K brother in a head to head fight, but they've both accomplished more than him.

I'd rate Bowe over their careers combined. Beating Evander alone is more than either brother has done.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:I'd rate Bowe over their careers combined. Beating Evander alone is more than either brother has done.

It's the single biggest victory of the 3 respective career's far and away. To me though part of being a great fighter is being able to sustain success over a length of time. Bowe's prime is shorter than probably any fighter of his talent in the history of the sport. Wlad and Vitali have sustained success at the top level way longer than Bowe, and I believe either of them against Bowe would be a tough go for them as well as Bowe.

Who have the K brothers beaten to be considered viable against any of these proven 90s fighters?

Who?

Vitali doesn't have the power to deal with any of these guys. Wlad doesn't have the chin. Neither do very well when forced to fight, they become ungainly akward messes.

Vitali had all he could handle with the flabby, aged remnants of a belowpar 90s heavyweight in Corrie Sanders, who never cracked the top 10 in his own era. And the same old man wasted Wladimir.

We're talking serious difference in levels here.

Vitali might beat Tua by decision after a lot of shitting his pants and running backwards.

I have a hard time envisaging either beating any of the others.

If the pace is fought at Tua/Ibeabuchi's torrid intensity then you can expect Vitali to be exhausted by round six and quitting on his stool again not long after.

Seriously, Vitali was gasping for air at the pace two fat 40 year old men - Lewis and Sanders - set. If we're saying best v best that's his best versus the beastly Tua of the Ibeabuchi epic. And he certainly has nowhere near the punch power to hurt Tua.

Tua makes him quit on his stool at some point.

loaded_gloves wrote:Who have the K brothers beaten to be considered viable against any of these proven 90s fighters?

Who?

Vitali doesn't have the power to deal with any of these guys. Wlad doesn't have the chin. Neither do very well when forced to fight, they become ungainly akward messes.

Vitali had all he could handle with the flabby, aged remnants of a belowpar 90s heavyweight in Corrie Sanders, who never cracked the top 10 in his own era. And the same old man wasted Wladimir.

We're talking serious difference in levels here.

You ever heard the saying Styles make fights. It's pretty easy for several people, myself included to envision a scenario where The Klitschko's get the better of several of these fighters.

But you haven't seen the K Brothers successfully apply their style to anyone of the calibre of those 90s fighters.

Sanders, a man who couldn't crack the top 10 in the 90s, as a fat old semi-retired man, wasted Wlad in 4 minutes and gave Vitali his toughest fight - after another 40 year old semi retired fat man in Lennox.

The form line does not look good for them.

loaded_gloves wrote:But you haven't seen the K Brothers successfully apply their style to anyone of the calibre of those 90s fighters.

Sanders, a man who couldn't crack the top 10 in the 90s, as a fat old semi-retired man, wasted Wlad in 4 minutes and gave Vitali his toughest fight - after another 40 year old semi retired fat man in Lennox.

The form line does not look good for them.

I don't think they'd have been nearly as successful as they are now, had they fought throughout the 90's, but I could still see them winning titles and being serious contenders throughout the decade.

loaded_gloves wrote:If the pace is fought at Tua/Ibeabuchi's torrid intensity then you can expect Vitali to be exhausted by round six and quitting on his stool again not long after.

Seriously, Vitali was gasping for air at the pace two fat 40 year old men - Lewis and Sanders - set. If we're saying best v best that's his best versus the beastly Tua of the Ibeabuchi epic. And he certainly has nowhere near the punch power to hurt Tua.

Tua makes him quit on his stool at some point.

You know I love that fight but Tua wouldn't just be able to wade in and trade bombs in the same way with the 6'9 Vitali, Klit would be able to dictate the pace of the fight somewhat with his awkwardness and foot height advantage. Although I could definitely see Tua clocking him hard a lot and not being dissuaded at all by Vitali's punches.

[quote="IRLangmaid25"]How would the Brothers K got on against the Heavyweight stars of the 1990s in the shape of

Mike Tyson (the only time Tyson was a star in the 90s was in 91 and that version of Tyson kayoes both Klitchkos or ruins their careers over points the way he did ruddock)

David Tua ( Tua loses to both on points both are safety first and Wlad tastes the canvas)
Evander Holyfield (Holyfield of any 90s vintage beats the brothers)
Michael Moorer (Moorer of 91/92 would be interesting the other version loses to both)
George Foreman (old man Foreman of the early 90s beats both- neither had the mobility of a holyfield or morrison to do what they did without getting tagged)
and
Riddick Bowe Bowe blasts both away in 7 or 8.

gilgamesh wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:I'd rate Bowe over their careers combined. Beating Evander alone is more than either brother has done.

It's the single biggest victory of the 3 respective career's far and away. To me though part of being a great fighter is being able to sustain success over a length of time. Bowe's prime is shorter than probably any fighter of his talent in the history of the sport. Wlad and Vitali have sustained success at the top level way longer than Bowe, and I believe either of them against Bowe would be a tough go for them as well as Bowe.

Sustained success against lowly opposition means very little to me. Riddick lost one fight to one of the greatest fighters who ever lived and it was an arguable decision.

I don't see anything tough for Bowe with either of them. Wlad would be terrified and Vitali doesn't have the power to bother him.

Also, comparing 'length of primes' is a flawed concept. People competing in deep eras against tough opponents will naturally have a shorter prime than people competing in a dead and moribund era.

Bowe would have lasted forever against the K brothers championship opposition. Really, he could defend every two months and knock out the majority of their opponents in one or two rounds. No long boring fencing sessions here. Bowe was an ogre. He would come forward and club men like David Haye, Marius Wach and Derek Chisora senseless.

If Holyfield was on his game he should win. They beat all the others.

I can't believe the desperation in some of these predictions.

Personally, I can't believe the delusion of the fans of the K brothers.

An old fat, 40 year old 90s fringe contender gelded one K brother and gave the other his toughest challenge.

And yet these two K brothers then squash the above mentioned 90s guys?

Well that doesn't make any sense at all.

Peversely, a prime Corrie Sanders would lose to all those 90s heavyweights, inside the distance.

Nothing to do with being a fan.

mugabi wrote:

IRLangmaid25 wrote:How would the Brothers K got on against the Heavyweight stars of the 1990s in the shape of

Mike Tyson (the only time Tyson was a star in the 90s was in 91 and that version of Tyson kayoes both Klitchkos or ruins their careers over points the way he did ruddock)

David Tua ( Tua loses to both on points both are safety first and Wlad tastes the canvas)
Evander Holyfield (Holyfield of any 90s vintage beats the brothers)
Michael Moorer (Moorer of 91/92 would be interesting the other version loses to both)
George Foreman (old man Foreman of the early 90s beats both- neither had the mobility of a holyfield or morrison to do what they did without getting tagged)
and
Riddick Bowe Bowe blasts both away in 7 or 8.

I think Vitali has a real chance against Bowe. Style-wise I think it's an interesting fight.

keithmoonhangover wrote:I think Vitali has a real chance against Bowe. Style-wise I think it's an interesting fight.

Me too.

gilgamesh wrote:

keithmoonhangover wrote:I think Vitali has a real chance against Bowe. Style-wise I think it's an interesting fight.

Me too.

nah
a chance
but less than 50/50 with a 90s Bowe in his prime, verses Dr IronSchmidt. Riddick would break his heart and thuds outs a late stoppage/retirement.

But I'm just an eighties/nineties fanboy

like you say style wise