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Dillain the Villain
Posted: 28 Mar 2013, 11:38
by thepocketrocket
http://news.boxrec.com/news/2013/dillia ... o-year-ban
What a way to blow a career.
At least we are getting tough on cheats
Re: Dillain the Villain
Posted: 28 Mar 2013, 11:42
by Final round
Jack3d again, that's what that girl who died marathon running took and Enzo Maccaranelli ? I think..
Re: Dillain the Villain
Posted: 28 Mar 2013, 11:47
by thepocketrocket
Final round wrote:Jack3d again, that's what that girl who died marathon running took and Enzo Maccaranelli ? I think..
Did everyone know Jak was illegal, or has he been harshly treated?
Re: Dillain the Villain
Posted: 28 Mar 2013, 11:51
by Old bones Ian
He may just of been silly enough to think buying over the counter goods wouldn't be on the banned list, but ignorance isn't an excuse.
He may still come back.
Re: Dillain the Villain
Posted: 28 Mar 2013, 11:52
by Final round
thepocketrocket wrote:Final round wrote:Jack3d again, that's what that girl who died marathon running took and Enzo Maccaranelli ? I think..
Did everyone know Jak was illegal, or has he been harshly treated?
I thought it had been withdrawn from sale last year.
Re: Dillain the Villain
Posted: 28 Mar 2013, 12:05
by therealhustle
Disgraceful decision.
Re: Dillain the Villain
Posted: 28 Mar 2013, 12:06
by rm1
He will only be 26 when this ban is run If he is really committed he can stay fit work on his technique and come back only time will tell if he can be bothered though.
Re: Dillain the Villain
Posted: 28 Mar 2013, 12:43
by wrimc
Seems kind of tough. But probably only when its noted in comparison to people like Peterson who clearly are cheats and yet are still to suffer any adverse penalties from their cheating.
Re: Dillain the Villain
Posted: 28 Mar 2013, 14:17
by spudder56
if you dont take any supplements or whatever drugs you wont get banned simple as that
Re: Dillain the Villain
Posted: 28 Mar 2013, 18:47
by Karl Jade
I like the fact we're tough on cheats. It's seldom the genuinely good fighters that seem to do it, anyway.
Re: Dillain the Villain
Posted: 28 Mar 2013, 18:58
by danconnollyeire
Karl Jade wrote:I like the fact we're tough on cheats. It's seldom the genuinely good fighters that seem to do it, anyway.
Are we though? Enzo took the same thing
Re: Dillain the Villain
Posted: 28 Mar 2013, 19:23
by philipgill
Maybe its so lengthy because they belive he was taking other stuff but it didnt come up I hear a lot of the UKAD work is inteligance leed. Cant see why it would be 2 years otherwise. ??
Re: Dillain the Villain
Posted: 29 Mar 2013, 06:58
by london
philipgill wrote:Maybe its so lengthy because they belive he was taking other stuff but it didnt come up I hear a lot of the UKAD work is inteligance leed. Cant see why it would be 2 years otherwise. ??
No every UKAD ban starts at 2 years minimum.
Dillian Whyte was incredibly unlucky as Enzo Macrinelli and Tony Dodson both got 6 months or under.
Read the judgement UKAD stated that they believe it was a genuine mistake but he should of took more steps to find out what it contained.
DMAA is also not banned outside competition and is widely used by fighters in training.
Re: Dillain the Villain
Posted: 29 Mar 2013, 07:20
by Glass Joe
i have tried jack3d so much energy i could of trained all day very harsh sentence some people dont get any luck.
Re: Dillain the Villain
Posted: 29 Mar 2013, 13:05
by spudder56
Dead Mouse wrote:london wrote:philipgill wrote:Maybe its so lengthy because they belive he was taking other stuff but it didnt come up I hear a lot of the UKAD work is inteligance leed. Cant see why it would be 2 years otherwise. ??
No every UKAD ban starts at 2 years minimum.
Dillian Whyte was incredibly unlucky as Enzo Macrinelli and Tony Dodson both got 6 months or under.
Read the judgement UKAD stated that they believe it was a genuine mistake but he should of took more steps to find out what it contained.
DMAA is also not banned outside competition and is widely used by fighters in training.
It is because it was an in-competition ban, the UKAD explains each case clearly in their rule violations section. Enzo took a substance a few weeks before a fight. Whyte took his closer to it. Hence the longer ban. They've released this information a number of times. The bans aren't absolute, they are relative to the circumstances.
Also it seems if you plead guilty its a 6 month ban but if you plead not guilty its the full 2 years But the answer is not to take anything at all
Re: Dillain the Villain
Posted: 29 Mar 2013, 18:28
by Matt Teague
A close friend of mine had a heart attack and died recently, this substance was said to be a factor in his death
Re: Dillain the Villain
Posted: 29 Mar 2013, 19:37
by JC
Glass Joe wrote:i have tried jack3d so much energy i could of trained all day very harsh sentence some people dont get any luck.
The first part of your sentence seems to contradict the second half
Re: Dillain the Villain
Posted: 29 Mar 2013, 20:16
by matko
Matt Teague wrote:A close friend of mine had a heart attack and died recently, this substance was said to be a factor in his death
Why if you don't mind me asking?
Due to regular use? Or his heart wasn't strong enough ?
Re: Dillain the Villain
Posted: 29 Mar 2013, 21:07
by SamWise72
Only 18 months, from now. Doesn't seem harsh to me. Crack on with some other things, come back stronger if you believe you can fight without.
Re: Dillain the Villain
Posted: 30 Mar 2013, 06:09
by london
Dead Mouse wrote:
It is because it was an in-competition ban, the UKAD explains each case clearly in their rule violations section. Enzo took a substance a few weeks before a fight. Whyte took his closer to it. Hence the longer ban. They've released this information a number of times. The bans aren't absolute, they are relative to the circumstances.
No Enzo and Tony Dodson both said they stopped taking it 4 days before the fight it seems had Whyte not been so honest about when he took Jack3d
he also would of walked away with a similar ban.
Re: Dillain the Villain
Posted: 30 Mar 2013, 09:08
by london
Dead Mouse wrote:london wrote:Dead Mouse wrote:
It is because it was an in-competition ban, the UKAD explains each case clearly in their rule violations section. Enzo took a substance a few weeks before a fight. Whyte took his closer to it. Hence the longer ban. They've released this information a number of times. The bans aren't absolute, they are relative to the circumstances.
No Enzo and Tony Dodson both said they stopped taking it 4 days before the fight it seems had Whyte not been so honest about when he took Jack3d
he also would of walked away with a similar ban.
You're advocating that he lies to the UKAD, then? Enzo reduced the dosage due to feeling ill from it, but ditched it altogether before the fight. Whyte took his drink on the day of the fight, hence the full in-competition ban. That's the major difference here.
The fact remains that all the boxers tested positive for DMAA on the fight day but Enzo and Dosdon got 6 months or under and Whyte two years.
All three tested positive "in competition"
Must be strong stuff if it shows up 4 days after taking it.
Re: Dillain the Villain
Posted: 30 Mar 2013, 09:16
by rm1
Seems like Whyte was unlucky to me. Shame as he was an exciting fighter and an active one unlike some heavyweights out there.