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British Top 30 P4P April 2013

Posted: 31 Mar 2013, 20:00
by Horse
1. (1.) Carl Froch
2. (2.) Ricky Burns
3. (3.) David Haye
4. (4.) Amir Khan
5. (5.) Nathan Cleverly
6. (6.) Ola Afolabi
7. (7.) Kell Brook
8. (8.) Matthew Macklin
9. (9.) George Groves
10. (10.) Carl Frampton

11. (11.) Tyson Fury
12. (17.) Darren Barker
13. (12.) Jamie McDonnell
14. (13.) Scott Quigg
15. (18.) Tony Bellew
16. (14.) James DeGale
17. (15.) Lee Selby
18. (16.) Gavin Rees
19. (19.) Martin Murray
20. (20.) Gary Buckland

21. (21.) Andy Lee (Irish)
22. (22.) Kevin Satchell
23. (23.) David Price
24. (24.) Brian Magee (Irish)
25. (25.) Brian Rose
26. (26.) Frankie Gavin
27. (27.) Kevin Mitchell
28. (28.) Lee Haskins
29. (29.) Rendall Munroe
30. (30.) Dereck Chisora

Re: British Top 30 P4P April 2013

Posted: 31 Mar 2013, 20:00
by Horse
Any comments or criticisms of the British Top 30 P4P list are very welcome.

Re: British Top 30 P4P April 2013

Posted: 31 Mar 2013, 20:52
by 15829
Paul Butler should be on the list

Re: British Top 30 P4P April 2013

Posted: 31 Mar 2013, 21:16
by MarkMcBurney
Burns above Haye?

Not for me.

And, no Audley?? :D

Re: British Top 30 P4P April 2013

Posted: 01 Apr 2013, 04:02
by sweetscience
Horse.... If khan & burns fought at a catch weight who do you think would win?

Re: British Top 30 P4P April 2013

Posted: 01 Apr 2013, 04:33
by earsjohn
Bellew rises on the back of that performance?

I have Macklin above Cleverly and billy joe Saunders is probably more worthy of a place than frankie Gavin, but they're just minor quibbles.

Re: British Top 30 P4P April 2013

Posted: 01 Apr 2013, 06:45
by Deno1986
Barker doesn't deserve a 5 place increase after beating a very poor opponent in Rotolo. Munroe really needs to be taken out to allow for someone else to come in. He announced his retirement ages ago.

Re: British Top 30 P4P April 2013

Posted: 01 Apr 2013, 06:53
by Finch
Why had Bellew climbed so many plAces after such a poor performance?

Re: British Top 30 P4P April 2013

Posted: 01 Apr 2013, 06:54
by Horse
@markmcgee87 wrote:Paul Butler should be on the list
If he beats Kareem this month then he might enter, but his record is a little shallow at the moment.

Re: British Top 30 P4P April 2013

Posted: 01 Apr 2013, 07:14
by Horse
MarkMcBurney wrote:Burns above Haye?

Not for me.
Burns' record is much better than Haye's over the last few years.
MarkMcBurney wrote:And, no Audley?? :D
Winning Prizefighter wasn't enough.

Re: British Top 30 P4P April 2013

Posted: 01 Apr 2013, 07:16
by Horse
sweetscience wrote:Horse.... If khan & burns fought at a catch weight who do you think would win?
Burns.

Re: British Top 30 P4P April 2013

Posted: 01 Apr 2013, 07:20
by Adamj1987
Horse wrote:Any comments or criticisms of the British Top 30 P4P list are very welcome.
hasnt rendal munroe retired?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/boxing/20710113

Re: British Top 30 P4P April 2013

Posted: 01 Apr 2013, 07:21
by leforge
@markmcgee87 wrote:Paul Butler should be on the list
He not beaten anyone of note!

Re: British Top 30 P4P April 2013

Posted: 01 Apr 2013, 07:49
by slapbangwhallop
Deno1986 wrote:Barker doesn't deserve a 5 place increase after beating a very poor opponent in Rotolo. Munroe really needs to be taken out to allow for someone else to come in. He announced his retirement ages ago.
x2. That's some jump for Barker after beating an extremely mediocre opponent.

Re: British Top 30 P4P April 2013

Posted: 01 Apr 2013, 08:23
by Horse
earsjohn wrote:Bellew rises on the back of that performance?
He was fighting a world level opponent and I think he did enough to nick the decision even though he was made to look very basic in the last half of the fight.
earsjohn wrote:I have Macklin above Cleverly and billy joe Saunders is probably more worthy of a place than frankie Gavin, but they're just minor quibbles.
Macklin's good performances against Sturm and Martinez give him a solid argument to be higher than Cleverly. When is Macklin fighting again anyway? He seems to be inactive for no reason.

I think Gavin's wins against Witter and McIntyre are better than any of Saunders' wins, that is debatable though. I considered including Saunders after his win last month, but I thought the likes of Chisora and Haskins deserved to stay above him, so I didn't include him.

Re: British Top 30 P4P April 2013

Posted: 01 Apr 2013, 08:52
by Horse
Deno1986 wrote:Barker doesn't deserve a 5 place increase after beating a very poor opponent in Rotolo.
I think Rotolo was made to look worse than he was by Barker. A 5 place jump is generous for that win, but I moved him up that much mostly because I thought Barker deserved to be higher than McDonnell and also because of his increased activity level.
Deno1986 wrote:Munroe really needs to be taken out to allow for someone else to come in. He announced his retirement ages ago.
If Chisora wins this month then Munroe will fall to 30th place and he'll drop out soon after that, possibly this month.

Re: British Top 30 P4P April 2013

Posted: 01 Apr 2013, 08:58
by Horse
Finch wrote:Why had Bellew climbed so many plAces after such a poor performance?
It was only three places. If Bellew didn't act like such an arse on Saturday then I think a lot of people wouldn't consider his performance to be as bad as they do.

Re: British Top 30 P4P April 2013

Posted: 01 Apr 2013, 09:01
by Horse
Adamj1987 wrote:hasnt rendal munroe retired?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/boxing/20710113
Yes, but I don't normally take a fighter who has retired out of the rankings straight away.

Re: British Top 30 P4P April 2013

Posted: 01 Apr 2013, 09:06
by Horse
leforge wrote:He not beaten anyone of note!
I'd say Sexton & Donnelly are somewhat noteworthy, but his record is currently too weak for a top 30 place.

Re: British Top 30 P4P April 2013

Posted: 01 Apr 2013, 16:48
by TJ77
Horse wrote:
sweetscience wrote:Horse.... If khan & burns fought at a catch weight who do you think would win?
Burns.
Big shout that i hate Khan but thats a big shout.

Re: British Top 30 P4P April 2013

Posted: 01 Apr 2013, 16:56
by los2
munroe retired last year and hasn't won a fight for 14 months :doh:

Re: British Top 30 P4P April 2013

Posted: 01 Apr 2013, 18:40
by sweetscience
TJ77 wrote:
Horse wrote:
sweetscience wrote:Horse.... If khan & burns fought at a catch weight who do you think would win?
Burns.
Big shout that i hate Khan but thats a big shout.
But..... Horse is Scottish :box:

Re: British Top 30 P4P April 2013

Posted: 01 Apr 2013, 20:04
by MarkMcBurney
Horse wrote:
MarkMcBurney wrote:Burns above Haye?

Not for me.
Burns' record is much better than Haye's over the last few years.
MarkMcBurney wrote:And, no Audley?? :D
Winning Prizefighter wasn't enough.
Is P4P a recent form guide or a question of who is the better fighter regardless of weight? Most of that list have had better wins that Haye over the past couple of years - he's only beaten Chisora in the last two years. On that basis he should be about 40th.

I was being sarcastic about A Force by the way...

Re: British Top 30 P4P April 2013

Posted: 01 Apr 2013, 20:31
by Horse
los2 wrote:munroe retired last year and hasn't won a fight for 14 months :doh:
He'll be out soon.

Re: British Top 30 P4P April 2013

Posted: 02 Apr 2013, 04:20
by Crazyboy
Macdonnell should be above Barker i think,

Thanks for doing the list though as always. :TU: