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BILLY JOE SAUNDERS v JOHN RYDER
Posted: 12 Apr 2013, 07:08
by JayMc
Gone out for purse bids - If this gets made it will be a great fight and one I would really look forward to.
Really would be a 50/50 fight.
I'd go for John Ryder to win I think he's the better all round boxer well schooled, decent defense and good power. Whilst BJS is a very good boxer I don't think he has good enough power to hurt Ryder..
Who wins it - your thoughts ?
Re: BILLY JOE SAUNDERS v JOHN RYDER
Posted: 12 Apr 2013, 07:18
by Chris W 1982
Saunders all day.
Re: BILLY JOE SAUNDERS v JOHN RYDER
Posted: 12 Apr 2013, 07:24
by hitman_hatton1
bet warren pulls bjs out.

Re: BILLY JOE SAUNDERS v JOHN RYDER
Posted: 12 Apr 2013, 07:37
by JayMc
@ Chris W 1982 - Care to give an explanation
Hope Warren doesn't get BJS to give up the Britsh title - These fights need to be made domestically and would be a great shame if it never happened.
Re: BILLY JOE SAUNDERS v JOHN RYDER
Posted: 12 Apr 2013, 11:43
by misterpunch
i'd like john to have one (or even a couple) more fights before this one. if it happens i'm with JR
Re: BILLY JOE SAUNDERS v JOHN RYDER
Posted: 12 Apr 2013, 13:20
by hurlock
Great contest if it goes ahead. I really like Ryder & his style & bj is one of the most naturally gifted fighters I've seen of recent times. Ryder has what it takes to turn billy over & give him a serious test a genuine 50/50 fight
Re: BILLY JOE SAUNDERS v JOHN RYDER
Posted: 12 Apr 2013, 13:33
by lefty
Ryder reminds me a lot of Gregorz Prokska in style. Hopefully he's not as open defensively.
Re: BILLY JOE SAUNDERS v JOHN RYDER
Posted: 12 Apr 2013, 15:18
by palooka
Ryder is a tidy boxer but does not have the power to knock Saunders off stride - their respective amateur records back this up. Saunders will beat him down in a good bout.
Re: BILLY JOE SAUNDERS v JOHN RYDER
Posted: 12 Apr 2013, 15:30
by Ratchet Exits Nu
misterpunch wrote:i'd like john to have one (or even a couple) more fights before this one. if it happens i'm with JR
I have heard Ryder is a good fighter, not seen much but I agree a few more fights but I do not rate Saunders too highly and his stamina is not good.
Re: BILLY JOE SAUNDERS v JOHN RYDER
Posted: 12 Apr 2013, 16:58
by Dan Dares
I'd put money on Saunders not being able to knock Ryder out. I wouldn't bet the other way.
If Saunders wins, it's on points and it's close. I really want to see this fight.
Re: BILLY JOE SAUNDERS v JOHN RYDER
Posted: 12 Apr 2013, 17:10
by leforge
Bjs v O Sullivan wbo eliminator I read!
Re: BILLY JOE SAUNDERS v JOHN RYDER
Posted: 12 Apr 2013, 17:13
by The Insider
Acid test for BJS if this happens (not sure it will) and Still not sold on him. Worry about his engine and power at this weight. Still convinced he'd be a bigger force at LMW. If he decides to mix it with John he might come unstuck. I'd guess Billy would win a cagey close points desicion.
Re: BILLY JOE SAUNDERS v JOHN RYDER
Posted: 12 Apr 2013, 17:19
by handsofstone
Gary O,Sullivan was supposed to be fighting Joe Selkirk on the Paul Butler/Yaqub Kareem undercard ay?,wasnt that fight scrapped before Butlers fight got postponed?
John Ryders already shown he can tough it out in the fight with Eammon O,Kane but i do think Billy Joe Saunders has got a bit too much experiance at this stage and would win a close decision,will be a brilliant match up if it happens
Re: BILLY JOE SAUNDERS v JOHN RYDER
Posted: 12 Apr 2013, 17:33
by Tommy Gunn13
Saunders a level above Ryder IMO
Cant see this fight happening for one reason or other...
Re: BILLY JOE SAUNDERS v JOHN RYDER
Posted: 12 Apr 2013, 17:50
by markymark1
Chris W 1982 wrote:Saunders all day.
How can you say that? Your basically saying that Saunders will beat Ryder out of sight? Your letting your heart rule your head here. It will be a good close fight and it's hard to pick a winner but I edge towards Ryder.
Re: BILLY JOE SAUNDERS v JOHN RYDER
Posted: 12 Apr 2013, 17:55
by Tommy Gunn13
markymark1 wrote:Chris W 1982 wrote:Saunders all day.
How can you say that? Your basically saying that Saunders will beat Ryder out of sight? Your letting your heart rule your head here. It will be a good close fight and it's hard to pick a winner but I edge towards Ryder.
Why will it be close,who has Ryder boxed...
Re: BILLY JOE SAUNDERS v JOHN RYDER
Posted: 12 Apr 2013, 18:07
by markymark1
Tommy Gunn13 wrote:markymark1 wrote:Chris W 1982 wrote:Saunders all day.
How can you say that? Your basically saying that Saunders will beat Ryder out of sight? Your letting your heart rule your head here. It will be a good close fight and it's hard to pick a winner but I edge towards Ryder.
Why will it be close,who has Ryder boxed...
You genurally think that it wouldn't be close? Do you think it's a mismatch then?
Who has Ryder boxed? Go on Ryder's records on here and you will see everyone of the opponents he has boxed, same with Saunders

Re: BILLY JOE SAUNDERS v JOHN RYDER
Posted: 12 Apr 2013, 18:11
by hurlock
Tommy Gunn13 wrote:markymark1 wrote:Chris W 1982 wrote:Saunders all day.
How can you say that? Your basically saying that Saunders will beat Ryder out of sight? Your letting your heart rule your head here. It will be a good close fight and it's hard to pick a winner but I edge towards Ryder.
Why will it be close,who has Ryder boxed...
Who has Saunders fought?
Come on!
Saunders has completed two twelve rounders & was flagging v Blackwell who never looked in trouble & landed decent body punches
Re: BILLY JOE SAUNDERS v JOHN RYDER
Posted: 12 Apr 2013, 18:14
by hurlock
Funny when you think we have Murray, barker,macklin ,lee , mcewan & Saunders holds the title without defeating any off them.
I'd personally slap anyone who says jr & bj should meet for somthing bigger
Re: BILLY JOE SAUNDERS v JOHN RYDER
Posted: 12 Apr 2013, 18:39
by Tommy Gunn13
He has boxed better fighters than Ryder,even if he was flagging or not! The fight wont happen anyhow..
Re: BILLY JOE SAUNDERS v JOHN RYDER
Posted: 13 Apr 2013, 09:04
by Horse
hurlock wrote:Funny when you think we have Murray, barker,macklin ,lee , mcewan & Saunders holds the title without defeating any off them.
He hasn't fought Hope, Butler or Eubank Jr either. The only middleweight contenders Saunders has beaten are Hill and Blackwell.
Saunders ducking Ryder to fight O'Sullivan would be embarrassing, hopefully that doesn't happen.
Re: BILLY JOE SAUNDERS v JOHN RYDER
Posted: 13 Apr 2013, 09:33
by leforge
Horse wrote:hurlock wrote:Funny when you think we have Murray, barker,macklin ,lee , mcewan & Saunders holds the title without defeating any off them.
He hasn't fought Hope, Butler or Eubank Jr either. The only middleweight contenders Saunders has beaten are Hill and Blackwell.
Saunders ducking Ryder to fight O'Sullivan would be embarrassing, hopefully that doesn't happen.
It's a world title eliminator o Sullivan been promised it!
Re: BILLY JOE SAUNDERS v JOHN RYDER
Posted: 13 Apr 2013, 09:40
by Horse
leforge wrote:It's a world title eliminator o Sullivan been promised it!
Who promised it and why?
Can't Saunders fight Ryder and then fight O'Sullivan?
Re: BILLY JOE SAUNDERS v JOHN RYDER
Posted: 13 Apr 2013, 10:05
by broomy7s
BJS said he wouldn't give up the belt, hmmm still can't see it happening tho. Who wins the purse bids too?
Re: BILLY JOE SAUNDERS v JOHN RYDER
Posted: 13 Apr 2013, 10:20
by 2smoothdalt
Could see it being a great fight. Bjs to win by 2/3 rounds.