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trainers responsibility to the fighter

Posted: 17 Apr 2013, 20:44
by fasteddie
if a trainer knows his fighter isn't 100%, isn't even 70%,and forces him in the ring then the trainer shouldn't even be badged IMO because they arn't interested in the fighters health.

Re: trainers responsibility to the fighter

Posted: 18 Apr 2013, 01:24
by johnnygreaves
I really don't know of any fighter being forced into the ring.

Re: trainers responsibility to the fighter

Posted: 18 Apr 2013, 01:31
by billy nelson
johnnygreaves wrote:I really don't know of any fighter being forced into the ring.
so when a fighter gets found out they've been out at the weekend or not done there runs when saying they have, should they lose there licence?

Re: trainers responsibility to the fighter

Posted: 18 Apr 2013, 01:34
by billy nelson
[quote="fasteddie"]if a trainer knows his fighter isn't 100%, isn't even 70%,and forces him in the ring then the trainer shouldn't even be badged IMO because they arn't interested in the fighters health.[/quote Plenty fighters have boxed not 100% fit or with a niggling injury,they want to go ahead with the fight for either money reasons or not to let there fans down

Re: trainers responsibility to the fighter

Posted: 18 Apr 2013, 02:49
by fasteddie
it happened to a friend of mine,he wasnt 100%,his trainer knew and all he got was "youve got to have this fight,you cant pull out" and i think its a f$%king disgrace,the boxer is the boss not the trainer. would the trainer still be around if the boxer ended up with brain damage or blind? i very much doubt it.

Re: trainers responsibility to the fighter

Posted: 18 Apr 2013, 03:41
by mickey1975
fasteddie wrote:it happened to a friend of mine,he wasnt 100%,his trainer knew and all he got was "youve got to have this fight,you cant pull out" and i think its a f$%king disgrace,the boxer is the boss not the trainer. would the trainer still be around if the boxer ended up with brain damage or blind? i very much doubt it.
Steve Williams against Hamilton by any chance?

Re: trainers responsibility to the fighter

Posted: 18 Apr 2013, 04:18
by iamasadlittleboy
Depends on the fighter and trainer. Didn't Enzo basically tell Joe "Get in that fornicating ring with Lacy or you'll be forgotten you fornicating fool" or something to that effect when Calzaghe was complaining about his hand?

Re: trainers responsibility to the fighter

Posted: 18 Apr 2013, 06:10
by fasteddie
billy nelson wrote:
fasteddie wrote:if a trainer knows his fighter isn't 100%, isn't even 70%,and forces him in the ring then the trainer shouldn't even be badged IMO because they arn't interested in the fighters health.[/quote Plenty fighters have boxed not 100% fit or with a niggling injury,they want to go ahead with the fight for either money reasons or not to let there fans down
you get the trainer saying the manager said he cant pull out then you get the manager saying if i knew you wasnt right i wouldnt of gone through with the fight,who do you believe the manager or the trainer?? either way its a disgrace,a fighter going into the fight with 3 seperate injuries which the trainer knew and still let the fight happen,its a joke.

Re: trainers responsibility to the fighter

Posted: 18 Apr 2013, 06:31
by Chris W 1982
These injuries and issues didn't seem to be a problem when I watched the person who I think you're referring to take part in a gruelling 10 round spar the week before the fight.

Re: trainers responsibility to the fighter

Posted: 18 Apr 2013, 08:04
by fasteddie
Chris W 1982 wrote:These injuries and issues didn't seem to be a problem when I watched the person who I think you're referring to take part in a gruelling 10 round spar the week before the fight.
hmm was this when the trainer told you they had a great camp and the boxer said your joking arnt you its been one of the worst camps cause of the injuries,also when you asked his weight the trainer said 10,3 and the boxer told you he was more like 10,7? was this the time chris???? im not mentioning who it is cause we both know who we are talking about right?? plus if your fighting a guy who fights long and clever why get a sparring partner in who stands in front of you and just has a slugfest??

Re: trainers responsibility to the fighter

Posted: 18 Apr 2013, 08:38
by mickey1975
fasteddie wrote:
Chris W 1982 wrote:These injuries and issues didn't seem to be a problem when I watched the person who I think you're referring to take part in a gruelling 10 round spar the week before the fight.
hmm was this when the trainer told you they had a great camp and the boxer said your joking arnt you its been one of the worst camps cause of the injuries,also when you asked his weight the trainer said 10,3 and the boxer told you he was more like 10,7? was this the time chris???? im not mentioning who it is cause we both know who we are talking about right?? plus if your fighting a guy who fights long and clever why get a sparring partner in who stands in front of you and just has a slugfest??
Everyone knows who you are talking about! He should have pulled out as these sound like excuses now. You were at it after the Daws fight, too...

Re: trainers responsibility to the fighter

Posted: 18 Apr 2013, 09:00
by fasteddie
do me a favour mickey read the title... the better man won on the night no one is disputing that.