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Fighters who suffered high profile KO losses early...

Posted: 18 Apr 2013, 09:18
by King Carlos
..in their career that went on to achieve great things? Who can you name?

Re: Fighters who suffered high profile KO losses early...

Posted: 18 Apr 2013, 10:00
by King Carlos
I'll start, then:

Nelson against Sanchez (the obvious one)
Pedroza against Zamora at Bantam
Sahaprom against Konadu

Re: Fighters who suffered high profile KO losses early...

Posted: 18 Apr 2013, 10:03
by Controversial
King Carlos wrote:..in their career that went on to achieve great things? Who can you name?
What do you mean by "high profile losses"?

Re: Fighters who suffered high profile KO losses early...

Posted: 18 Apr 2013, 10:11
by Ezzard
Jack Johnson?

Re: Fighters who suffered high profile KO losses early...

Posted: 18 Apr 2013, 10:17
by NazNaci1
Jack Dempsey vs Fireman Jim Flynn, I suppose.

Re: Fighters who suffered high profile KO losses early...

Posted: 18 Apr 2013, 10:26
by King Carlos
Controversial wrote:
King Carlos wrote:..in their career that went on to achieve great things? Who can you name?
What do you mean by "high profile losses"?
Not like Harry Greb getting KO'd in one of his early bouts, where neither fighter was highly touted at the time. More along the lines of the bouts I named.

Re: Fighters who suffered high profile KO losses early...

Posted: 18 Apr 2013, 10:39
by The 1bangkid
Lewis lost in 1994 and retired in 2004

Re: Fighters who suffered high profile KO losses early...

Posted: 18 Apr 2013, 10:44
by King Carlos
The 1bangkid wrote:Lewis lost in 1994 and retired in 2004
Not exactly what I'm looking for. He'd been fighting 5 years and was already a notable champion.

Re: Fighters who suffered high profile KO losses early...

Posted: 18 Apr 2013, 11:02
by NazNaci1
Eusebio Pedroza vs Alfonso Zamora
Nigel Benn vs Michael Watson
Carl Thompson vs Crawford Ashley (this one is more for British fans, tbh)
Buster Douglas vs Tony Tucker
Joe Louis vs Max Schelling
Ezzard Charles vs Jersey Joe Walcott
Archie Moore vs Ezzard Charles

Re: Fighters who suffered high profile KO losses early...

Posted: 18 Apr 2013, 11:33
by King Carlos
Leonard against Camacho could've been another, bengulnaci. Why didn't you mention it? Or how about Moore/Ali?

Re: Fighters who suffered high profile KO losses early...

Posted: 18 Apr 2013, 11:35
by dr_devious
David Haye vs Carl Thompson

Re: Fighters who suffered high profile KO losses early...

Posted: 18 Apr 2013, 11:47
by IKSRTFO
King Carlos wrote:
The 1bangkid wrote:Lewis lost in 1994 and retired in 2004
Not exactly what I'm looking for. He'd been fighting 5 years and was already a notable champion.

If he hadn't been fighting 5 years and a notable champion, the KO wouldn't have been high profile. It's an oxy moron.

Re: Fighters who suffered high profile KO losses early...

Posted: 18 Apr 2013, 13:15
by NazNaci1
King Carlos wrote:Leonard against Camacho could've been another, bengulnaci. Why didn't you mention it? Or how about Moore/Ali?
Well, if we are going to be sacarsti about it, from your picks, Nelson was hardly high profile at that time, so going by your own criteria, that discounts him.

As for mine, Benn vs Watson and Moore vs Charles probably come closest to what your asking (though you appear to be confusing yourself and the point of this thread).

Re: Fighters who suffered high profile KO losses early...

Posted: 18 Apr 2013, 13:22
by SaadOffTheDeck
Nelson was an unknown fighting one of the best fighters in the world. That's high profile enough. He just means that the guy who was knocked out by a big name, wasn't yet established and later turned out to be great.

Though in your defense it's not the easiest examples to think of and high profile was probably not the proper verbiage.

Even though he was old, I think Olivares icing Ramirez should count.

Re: Fighters who suffered high profile KO losses early...

Posted: 18 Apr 2013, 13:24
by NazNaci1
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Nelson was an unknown fighting one of the best fighters in the world. That's high profile enough. He just means that the guy who was knocked out by a big name, wasn't yet established and later turned out to be great.

Though in your defense it's not the easiest examples to think of and high profile was probably not the proper verbiage.

Even though he was old, I think Olivares icing Ramirez should count.
Ok, gotcha. Could have worded it a bit differently to make clearer, as you say. However 'tis cool. I shall muse and return :TU:

Re: Fighters who suffered high profile KO losses early...

Posted: 18 Apr 2013, 13:30
by SaadOffTheDeck
Arce/Carbajal.
S Martinez/Margarito

Edit- Scrap the second one, they were both unknown. This is a tough thread. :TU:

Re: Fighters who suffered high profile KO losses early...

Posted: 18 Apr 2013, 13:33
by gilgamesh
Would Julian Jackson/Mike McCallum...and then later Jackson vs Terry Norris fit this category?

I'm not sure exactly how big Jackson or Norris' profiles were prior to being knocked out in these fights, but they both undoubtedly went on to bigger and better things after these losses.

Re: Fighters who suffered high profile KO losses early...

Posted: 18 Apr 2013, 13:36
by SaadOffTheDeck
gilgamesh wrote:Would Julian Jackson/Mike McCallum...and then later Jackson vs Terry Norris fit this category?

I'm not sure exactly how big Jackson or Norris' profiles were prior to being knocked out in these fights, but they both undoubtedly went on to bigger and better things after these losses.
If I was judging I'd say definitely yes for Jackson/Mccallum and probably not for Norris/Jackson. Then again I might be missing the early in their career portion. He didn't really say they had to be unproven. It could be the complete opposite. :lol:

Re: Fighters who suffered high profile KO losses early...

Posted: 18 Apr 2013, 14:28
by King Carlos
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:He just means that the guy who was knocked out by a big name, wasn't yet established and later turned out to be great.
That's fair. Solid example, too. The fighter in question didn't necessarily have to have turned out "great", as it's a very subjective term, but had to have went on to do big things.

Re: Fighters who suffered high profile KO losses early...

Posted: 19 Apr 2013, 05:10
by Counter-puncher
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
Even though he was old, I think Olivares icing Ramirez should count.
mm, I was thinking Bobby Chacon getting stopped by Olivares and going on to be what he became

maybe Little Red getting stopped by Chacon, too.

Re: Fighters who suffered high profile KO losses early...

Posted: 19 Apr 2013, 05:21
by orbtastic
Was going to say Lopez getting his bubble burst by Chacon.

Lopez stopped O'Grady early on but don't think O'Grady was any sort of name then, given his propensity for fighting carefully managed fighters at home.