Holyfield/Corrie Sanders.

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Holyfield/Corrie Sanders.

Post by Rover »

This was inspired by a poster who brought up Holyfield/Moorer II in the Moorer/Sanders thread.
Let's ask it this way:
Is there anybody who would pick Sanders?
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Re: Holyfield/Corrie Sanders.

Post by The End »

The Holyfield that fought Oquendo could beat prime Sanders not only due to talent gap but also due to styles .
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Re: Holyfield/Corrie Sanders.

Post by polecateddy »

I think there is a fair argument for Sanders beating Moorer, but I would submit Holyfield would be too solid for him. Holyfield would have had his cage rattled at least though, and taken a few hard shots.
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Re: Holyfield/Corrie Sanders.

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Relieved no one has picked Sanders. Hope it stays that way.
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Re: Holyfield/Corrie Sanders.

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Anyone who picks Corrie Sanders here should be banned.

The Holyfield of the Czyz and Bean overly-criticised performances would overcome Sanders, inside the distance.
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Re: Holyfield/Corrie Sanders.

Post by SaadOffTheDeck »

loaded_gloves wrote:Anyone who picks Corrie Sanders here should be banned.

The Holyfield of the Czyz and Bean overly-criticised performances would overcome Sanders, inside the distance.
Evander probably beat 20 fighters that would be sound favorites over Sanders. Christ, enough threads about that fat ass. And if the man is the hot topic of the moment. At least put him in there with guys like Williamson and LeDoux and put an end to these mismatches.
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Re: Holyfield/Corrie Sanders.

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Haha - I used to like Corrie until I discovered this cultish Ibeabuchi-esque following he has on here.
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Re: Holyfield/Corrie Sanders.

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loaded_gloves wrote:Haha - I used to like Corrie until I discovered this cultish Ibeabuchi-esque following he has on here.
It's bizarre as hell. Though I think I came up with a good fight in LeDoux. That would have been one sloppy war.
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Re: Holyfield/Corrie Sanders.

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Sanders/LeDoux is actually a strong matchup. I would have to side with the one who was a fearless hardnut who mixed it up with the division's all-time hitters and carried his power late. So basically the guy who's not Corrie Sanders.

This is the last time I'm writing the name Corrie Sanders for at least a week.
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Re: Holyfield/Corrie Sanders.

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Styles make fights - Sanders had good power and handspeed, but poor chin and stamina. He could never win against an iron chinned, iron willed heavyweight like Holyfield, he'd have less than a puncher's chance.
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jezzamundo wrote:Styles make fights - Sanders had good power and handspeed, but poor chin and stamina. He could never win against an iron chinned, iron willed heavyweight like Holyfield, he'd have less than a puncher's chance.
How could he have less than a puncher's chance when he is a big puncher?
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Re: Holyfield/Corrie Sanders.

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polecateddy wrote:
jezzamundo wrote:Styles make fights - Sanders had good power and handspeed, but poor chin and stamina. He could never win against an iron chinned, iron willed heavyweight like Holyfield, he'd have less than a puncher's chance.
How could he have less than a puncher's chance when he is a big puncher?
IMO he's not big enough a puncher to take out Holyfield .
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Re: Holyfield/Corrie Sanders.

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The End wrote:
polecateddy wrote:
jezzamundo wrote:Styles make fights - Sanders had good power and handspeed, but poor chin and stamina. He could never win against an iron chinned, iron willed heavyweight like Holyfield, he'd have less than a puncher's chance.
How could he have less than a puncher's chance when he is a big puncher?
IMO he's not big enough a puncher to take out Holyfield .
He isn't, not in 100 fights. Polecaddy thinks Sanders is the real life Drago. It's comical.
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Re: Holyfield/Corrie Sanders.

Post by polecateddy »

Just cos I called you an idiot, you're having a pop. I never once suggested Corrie had much of a chance against Holyfield. He has that punchers chance, which is basically a way of saying there's a slim chance a fighter will win.
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Re: Holyfield/Corrie Sanders.

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loaded_gloves wrote:Sanders/LeDoux is actually a strong matchup. I would have to side with the one who was a fearless hardnut who mixed it up with the division's all-time hitters and carried his power late. So basically the guy who's not Corrie Sanders.

This is the last time I'm writing the name Corrie Sanders for at least a week.
That would've been a fun fight. I'd actually edge Sanders in that one as I think LeDoux may not last the first 4 rounds, but if he is still strong and standing at the end of 4 the fight is his.
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Re: Holyfield/Corrie Sanders.

Post by BoxBuzz »

I haven't looked at the stats, but the answer COULD BE as easy as "who walked in weighing more"?

If Holy eats enough pie directly before the fight begins, it sets the stage for an upset...........stomach?


Was Holy an overblown cruiser? This is an important factor I'm told we must consider to be "modern" in our thinking.
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Re: Holyfield/Corrie Sanders.

Post by polecateddy »

I'm not saying he's winning this one in any circumstances. But I think people are short changing poor old Corrie a little bit here. He was 37 when he beat Wlad, 34 when he lost to Rahman. Both fights well past his peak. Now if you go on You Tube, check out Corrie v Johnny DuPlooey, when Sanders was 25 years old. You'll get a better idea of how dynamic (and conditioned) he could be. And have a look at Johnny DuPlooey too, wrecking Mike Weaver among others. Both South Africans now deceased of course.
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Re: Holyfield/Corrie Sanders.

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Holyfield would beat Corey Sanders and Corrie Sanders in a handicap match while he has hepatitis .
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Re: Holyfield/Corrie Sanders.

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The End wrote:Holyfield would beat Corey Sanders and Corrie Sanders in a handicap match while he has hepatitis .
Still he did lose to Chris Bryd, James Toney and the great Larry Donald. And it was ironically the disease hepatitis that saved him from a loss to Henry Akinwande. Lets not get too carried away! Lol And of course Holyfield was older then, but bare in mind old Corrie had been a pro 14 years already by the time he sent Wlad into orbit. He was pretty worn out too.
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Re: Holyfield/Corrie Sanders.

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BoxBuzz wrote:I haven't looked at the stats, but the answer COULD BE as easy as "who walked in weighing more"?

If Holy eats enough pie directly before the fight begins, it sets the stage for an upset...........stomach?


Was Holy an overblown cruiser? This is an important factor I'm told we must consider to be "modern" in our thinking.
:lol:
You're on fire today!
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Re: Holyfield/Corrie Sanders.

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polecateddy wrote:
The End wrote:Holyfield would beat Corey Sanders and Corrie Sanders in a handicap match while he has hepatitis .
Still he did lose to Chris Bryd, James Toney and the great Larry Donald. And it was ironically the disease hepatitis that saved him from a loss to Henry Akinwande. Lets not get too carried away! Lol And of course Holyfield was older then, but bare in mind old Corrie had been a pro 14 years already by the time he sent Wlad into orbit. He was pretty worn out too.
Comparing the attrition that Sanders and Holyfield had is absurd. Holyfield was in countless wars. Sanders blew out a bunch of mediocre opponents for the most part. I think he had two fights between Rahman and Wlad (two quick KOs).
I'd also pick Byrd over Sanders after a few rough moments early by clear decision when Sanders fades per usual.
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Re: Holyfield/Corrie Sanders.

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polecateddy wrote:
The End wrote:Holyfield would beat Corey Sanders and Corrie Sanders in a handicap match while he has hepatitis .
Still he did lose to Chris Bryd, James Toney and the great Larry Donald. And it was ironically the disease hepatitis that saved him from a loss to Henry Akinwande. Lets not get too carried away! Lol And of course Holyfield was older then, but bare in mind old Corrie had been a pro 14 years already by the time he sent Wlad into orbit. He was pretty worn out too.
You've now resorted to using the losing fights of a 40 year old Evander Holyfield, after he had been boxing professionally for 18 years.

Guess what, Muhammad Ali lost to Trevor Berbick at 40 - we better reassess his career as well.

The fact that you believe that Henry Akinwande would have beaten Evander Holyfield in 1998 is cast-iron, unequivocal proof that Holyfield would have won.

You are absolutely ridiculous.

You have so little understanding of boxing it's embarrassing that you attempt to debate it with anyone. You watch boxing and learn nothing from what you see. You try debate it with flimsy, childlike arguments and are constantly refuted and still you learn nothing.
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Re: Holyfield/Corrie Sanders.

Post by MEISINGER »

loaded_gloves wrote:
polecateddy wrote:
The End wrote:Holyfield would beat Corey Sanders and Corrie Sanders in a handicap match while he has hepatitis .
Still he did lose to Chris Bryd, James Toney and the great Larry Donald. And it was ironically the disease hepatitis that saved him from a loss to Henry Akinwande. Lets not get too carried away! Lol And of course Holyfield was older then, but bare in mind old Corrie had been a pro 14 years already by the time he sent Wlad into orbit. He was pretty worn out too.
You've now resorted to using the losing fights of a 40 year old Evander Holyfield, after he had been boxing professionally for 18 years.

Guess what, Muhammad Ali lost to Trevor Berbick at 40 - we better reassess his career as well.

The fact that you believe that Henry Akinwande would have beaten Evander Holyfield in 1998 is cast-iron, unequivocal proof that Holyfield would have won.

You are absolutely ridiculous.

You have so little understanding of boxing it's embarrassing that you attempt to debate it with anyone. You watch boxing and learn nothing from what you see. You try debate it with flimsy, childlike arguments and are constantly refuted and still you learn nothing.
from day 1 that he has been posting
saying he knows more than all members combined
i knew he was an idiot

its about time someone put him in his place :bow: :bow: :bow:
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Re: Holyfield/Corrie Sanders.

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MEISINGER wrote:
loaded_gloves wrote:
polecateddy wrote: Still he did lose to Chris Bryd, James Toney and the great Larry Donald. And it was ironically the disease hepatitis that saved him from a loss to Henry Akinwande. Lets not get too carried away! Lol And of course Holyfield was older then, but bare in mind old Corrie had been a pro 14 years already by the time he sent Wlad into orbit. He was pretty worn out too.
You've now resorted to using the losing fights of a 40 year old Evander Holyfield, after he had been boxing professionally for 18 years.

Guess what, Muhammad Ali lost to Trevor Berbick at 40 - we better reassess his career as well.

The fact that you believe that Henry Akinwande would have beaten Evander Holyfield in 1998 is cast-iron, unequivocal proof that Holyfield would have won.

You are absolutely ridiculous.

You have so little understanding of boxing it's embarrassing that you attempt to debate it with anyone. You watch boxing and learn nothing from what you see. You try debate it with flimsy, childlike arguments and are constantly refuted and still you learn nothing.
from day 1 that he has been posting
saying he knows more than all members combined
i knew he was an idiot

its about time someone put him in his place :bow: :bow: :bow:
He said that? Wow.
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Re: Holyfield/Corrie Sanders.

Post by gilgamesh »

Holyfield wins this easy. He's better than Sanders in every way, and prime Holyfield would have ran him out of gas within 4 rounds, then stop him in the 6th or 7th after beating on him for a few more rounds. Hell even the Holyfield that was embarassed by Larry Donald would probably beat Corrie Sanders.
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