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John/McGuigan.
Posted: 03 May 2013, 23:56
by Rover
Credit to Giacomino for having given me the inspiration for this one. Thoughts?
Re: John/McGuigan.
Posted: 23 Aug 2013, 17:17
by Giancarlo
The McGuigan of the Pedroza bout would be too much for Chris John in my opinion.
Re: John/McGuigan.
Posted: 23 Aug 2013, 17:37
by Rover
I don't think that much of McGuigan. His HOF induction was absurd. Pedroza was past prime by that point and had been declining IMO since Caba. I'll take John on points.
Re: John/McGuigan.
Posted: 23 Aug 2013, 18:32
by Giancarlo
Rover wrote:I don't think that much of McGuigan. His HOF induction was absurd. Pedroza was past prime by that point and had been declining IMO since Caba. I'll take John on points.
It's a Hall of Fame. He was certainly famous so I guess he ticks the main box.
I'd like to have seen him fight The Professor at the time he starched the very capable Pat Cowdell.
Re: John/McGuigan.
Posted: 23 Aug 2013, 18:41
by Rover
Giancarlo wrote:Rover wrote:I don't think that much of McGuigan. His HOF induction was absurd. Pedroza was past prime by that point and had been declining IMO since Caba. I'll take John on points.
It's a Hall of Fame. He was certainly famous so I guess he ticks the main box.
I'd like to have seen him fight The Professor at the time he starched the very capable Pat Cowdell.
Professor would've used and abused him.
As for the HOF, Butterbean's famous, too.
Re: John/McGuigan.
Posted: 23 Aug 2013, 20:45
by Giancarlo
Rover wrote:Giancarlo wrote:Rover wrote:I don't think that much of McGuigan. His HOF induction was absurd. Pedroza was past prime by that point and had been declining IMO since Caba. I'll take John on points.
It's a Hall of Fame. He was certainly famous so I guess he ticks the main box.
I'd like to have seen him fight The Professor at the time he starched the very capable Pat Cowdell.
Professor would've used and abused him.
As for the HOF, Butterbean's famous, too.
No reason why Eric shouldn't be in there too then.
Re: John/McGuigan.
Posted: 23 Aug 2013, 20:59
by Rover
That isn't the purpose of a HOF. Kornikova's famous in tennis. She isn't getting in the HOF--as she never won a tournament.
Re: John/McGuigan.
Posted: 23 Aug 2013, 21:01
by Giancarlo
Rover wrote:That isn't the purpose of a HOF. Kornikova's famous in tennis. She isn't getting in the HOF--as she never won a tournament.
We'll have to agree to disagree.
Re: John/McGuigan.
Posted: 23 Aug 2013, 22:12
by giacomino
John UD. Agree with Rover on HOF bs
Re: John/McGuigan.
Posted: 23 Aug 2013, 22:16
by Giancarlo
giacomino wrote:Agree with Rover on HOF bs
I don't know much about them.
Who owns and runs the one as Canastota?
Re: John/McGuigan.
Posted: 23 Aug 2013, 22:22
by Rover
Giancarlo wrote:giacomino wrote:Agree with Rover on HOF bs
I don't know much about them.
Who owns and runs the one as Canastota?
That's the IBHOF. Ed Brophy's the head of it I believe.
Re: John/McGuigan.
Posted: 23 Aug 2013, 22:23
by giacomino
http://www.ibhof.com/pages/about/about.html
Loved watching McGuigan fight, but he doesn't have credentials to b in anyone's HOF
Re: John/McGuigan.
Posted: 23 Aug 2013, 22:24
by Giancarlo
Any idea how it is structured?
Is it just a limited company or what?
Re: John/McGuigan.
Posted: 23 Aug 2013, 22:27
by giacomino
They let in a lot of folks. McGuigan certainly isn't the only guy I would question who they've let in. Popularity certainly counts
Re: John/McGuigan.
Posted: 23 Aug 2013, 22:30
by Rover
giacomino wrote:They let in a lot of folks. McGuigan certainly isn't the only guy I would question who they've let in. Popularity certainly counts
Like Gatti...baaaaaaaaarf!
Re: John/McGuigan.
Posted: 23 Aug 2013, 22:38
by giacomino
Agreed, but I'd put Gatti in over McGuigan
Re: John/McGuigan.
Posted: 23 Aug 2013, 22:50
by Rover
giacomino wrote:Agreed, but I'd put Gatti in over McGuigan
I'd put McGuigan in first; better wins and fewer bad losses. Agree neither belongs.
Sorry for the PM reply; an accident.

Re: John/McGuigan.
Posted: 23 Aug 2013, 23:16
by Giancarlo
Interesting read. Thanks.