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Kessler sparring with Groves, Cleverly and Skoglund
Posted: 07 May 2013, 08:32
by The Law
Kessler will be sparring with the 3 aforementioned undefeated boxers in preparation for his fight with Carl Froch.
I'm not sure what help Cleverly will be with his style and limited power. What are your thoughts?
Re: Kessler sparring with Groves, Cleverly and Skoglund
Posted: 07 May 2013, 08:38
by Benelio
Cleverly's workrate, engine and combination punching is similar to Carl's.
Re: Kessler sparring with Groves, Cleverly and Skoglund
Posted: 07 May 2013, 08:41
by freddydoesdallas
that is some tough sparring. I would like to hear how it has been going, especially for Cleverly
Re: Kessler sparring with Groves, Cleverly and Skoglund
Posted: 07 May 2013, 08:45
by The Law
Benelio wrote:Cleverly's workrate, engine and combination punching is similar to Carl's.
I would say Cleverly's hand speed is superior and I'm sure he will give Kessler a great workout. Furthermore, his workrate is indeed very high (arguably higher than Carl's). However, his power is in sharp contrast to Carl's.
Nevertheless the contrasting styles of Groves, Skoglund and Cleverly may provide the ideal mix.
Re: Kessler sparring with Groves, Cleverly and Skoglund
Posted: 07 May 2013, 09:03
by ShadrachSimmo
The Law wrote:Benelio wrote:Cleverly's workrate, engine and combination punching is similar to Carl's.
I would say Cleverly's hand speed is superior and I'm sure he will give Kessler a great workout. Furthermore, his workrate is indeed very high (arguably higher than Carl's). However, his power is in sharp contrast to Carl's.
Nevertheless the contrasting styles of Groves, Skoglund and Cleverly may provide the ideal mix.
Some good observations you make. Certainly a contrast between Groves and Clev. Don't know much about Skoglund at all.
I wonder who is helping Froch in this department?
Re: Kessler sparring with Groves, Cleverly and Skoglund
Posted: 07 May 2013, 09:07
by Dirk Kelly
Surely Groves sparring Kessler is a conflict of interest with him and Carl being under the same promoter?
Re: Kessler sparring with Groves, Cleverly and Skoglund
Posted: 07 May 2013, 09:16
by desperados
Kessler is going to beat Froch.
Re: Kessler sparring with Groves, Cleverly and Skoglund
Posted: 07 May 2013, 09:21
by The Law
Dirk Kelly wrote:Surely Groves sparring Kessler is a conflict of interest with him and Carl being under the same promoter?
Allegedly did initially suggest that Groves only joined Matchroom on a 2 fight deal. Groves has boxed twice since he left Allegedly .... This raises some interesting questions.
Re: Kessler sparring with Groves, Cleverly and Skoglund
Posted: 07 May 2013, 09:26
by lefty
would love to Kessler and Groves going at it! Would be very interesting i think.
Re: Kessler sparring with Groves, Cleverly and Skoglund
Posted: 07 May 2013, 10:09
by whiskey
Good luck to 'em all.
Kessler has stated if he gets beaten, he will 100% retire.
That's immense pressure, plus sparring people who want to do their absolute best against him = burn out ?
By contrast, Froch has been practically in fighting shape since after the Mack fight. Besides a total chill-out holiday in Dubai, he has kept his engine tip top.
Plus his little girl was born a few days ago, that's nicely out of the way and he will be looking at doing the business for his own redemption and for his new little girl. He won't find any better motivation that gaining revenge and doing it for his little family.
Whereas Kessler has what, a motorbike. Bit different really to children.
Re: Kessler sparring with Groves, Cleverly and Skoglund
Posted: 07 May 2013, 10:12
by lefty
G0mez wrote:Good luck to 'em all.
Kessler has stated if he gets beaten, he will 100% retire.
That's immense pressure, plus sparring people who want to do their absolute best against him = burn out ?
By contrast, Froch has been practically in fighting shape since after the Mack fight. Besides a total chill-out holiday in Dubai, he has kept his engine tip top.
Plus his little girl was born a few days ago, that's nicely out of the way and he will be looking at doing the business for his own redemption and for his new little girl. He won't find any better motivation that gaining revenge and doing it for his little family.
Whereas Kessler has what, a motorbike. Bit different really to children.
He has a dog

Re: Kessler sparring with Groves, Cleverly and Skoglund
Posted: 07 May 2013, 10:16
by Chris W 1982
Was on a radio show with Rocky Fielding last week and he was asked to spend eight weeks with Kessler.
Shortly after, he was called up and was told that the deal was off because he was a Matchroom fighter. Rocky insisted he was professional enough not to reveal any details and that he desperately wanted the experience of sharing a ring with Kessler.
Re: Kessler sparring with Groves, Cleverly and Skoglund
Posted: 07 May 2013, 10:22
by lefty
Chris W 1982 wrote:Was on a radio show with Rocky Fielding last week and he was asked to spend eight weeks with Kessler.
Shortly after, he was called up and was told that the deal was off because he was a Matchroom fighter. Rocky insisted he was professional enough not to reveal any details and that he desperately wanted the experience of sharing a ring with Kessler.
i dont see what difference it would make anyway to be honest as Kessler isnt going to of radically changed his style since the first fight.
Re: Kessler sparring with Groves, Cleverly and Skoglund
Posted: 07 May 2013, 10:38
by Asterix
columbo wrote:Chris W 1982 wrote:Was on a radio show with Rocky Fielding last week and he was asked to spend eight weeks with Kessler.
Shortly after, he was called up and was told that the deal was off because he was a Matchroom fighter. Rocky insisted he was professional enough not to reveal any details and that he desperately wanted the experience of sharing a ring with Kessler.
i dont see what difference it would make anyway to be honest as Kessler isnt going to of radically changed his style since the first fight.
You never know what might happen during sparring, though. Injuries, etc.
Re: Kessler sparring with Groves, Cleverly and Skoglund
Posted: 07 May 2013, 10:58
by Deserter
G0mez wrote:Froch has been practically in fighting shape since after the Mack fight. Besides a total chill-out holiday in Dubai, he has kept his engine tip top.
Can't believe he was over here - would loved to have bumped into the Cobra!
Re: Kessler sparring with Groves, Cleverly and Skoglund
Posted: 07 May 2013, 11:05
by jessi
Deserter wrote:G0mez wrote:Froch has been practically in fighting shape since after the Mack fight. Besides a total chill-out holiday in Dubai, he has kept his engine tip top.
Can't believe he was over here - would loved to have bumped into the Cobra!
Deserter what do you do in Dubai ? If you don't mind me asking
Re: Kessler sparring with Groves, Cleverly and Skoglund
Posted: 07 May 2013, 11:14
by Deserter
jessi wrote:Deserter wrote:G0mez wrote:Froch has been practically in fighting shape since after the Mack fight. Besides a total chill-out holiday in Dubai, he has kept his engine tip top.
Can't believe he was over here - would loved to have bumped into the Cobra!
Deserter what do you do in Dubai ? If you don't mind me asking
I work at a communications agency mate.
Re: Kessler sparring with Groves, Cleverly and Skoglund
Posted: 07 May 2013, 11:59
by whiskey
Deserter wrote:G0mez wrote:Froch has been practically in fighting shape since after the Mack fight. Besides a total chill-out holiday in Dubai, he has kept his engine tip top.
Can't believe he was over here - would loved to have bumped into the Cobra!
Madinat Jumeriah villa section I think, next to Mina a Salam. Its a massive area as you know. Ive been myself and it's mint. I think between there and the old Mirage is where most celebs go. Or at least used to..
Re: Kessler sparring with Groves, Cleverly and Skoglund
Posted: 07 May 2013, 12:08
by lefty
jessi wrote:Deserter wrote:G0mez wrote:Froch has been practically in fighting shape since after the Mack fight. Besides a total chill-out holiday in Dubai, he has kept his engine tip top.
Can't believe he was over here - would loved to have bumped into the Cobra!
Deserter what do you do in Dubai ? If you don't mind me asking
He's a mossad agent. He was involved in a big operation a few years ago if you recall ;;-)
Re: Kessler sparring with Groves, Cleverly and Skoglund
Posted: 07 May 2013, 12:17
by Deserter
G0mez wrote:Deserter wrote:G0mez wrote:Froch has been practically in fighting shape since after the Mack fight. Besides a total chill-out holiday in Dubai, he has kept his engine tip top.
Can't believe he was over here - would loved to have bumped into the Cobra!
Madinat Jumeriah villa section I think, next to Mina a Salam. Its a massive area as you know. Ive been myself and it's mint. I think between there and the old Mirage is where most celebs go. Or at least used to..
Mate, I'm not joking when I say that's my 'local', as I live 10 mins walk away! This place is moving all the time in terms of what's 'hot', but Madinat is one of the few ever-constants.
Re: Kessler sparring with Groves, Cleverly and Skoglund
Posted: 07 May 2013, 12:17
by Deserter
columbo wrote:He's a mossad agent. He was involved in a big operation a few years ago if you recall ;;-)

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Re: Kessler sparring with Groves, Cleverly and Skoglund
Posted: 07 May 2013, 13:27
by Final round
Blimey, that's some quality sparring for all parties involved. I wonder if Carl has been on the blower to Groves asking him to stick a few good ones on him in preparation !
Re: Kessler sparring with Groves, Cleverly and Skoglund
Posted: 07 May 2013, 13:40
by sucracristo
The Law wrote:Dirk Kelly wrote:Surely Groves sparring Kessler is a conflict of interest with him and Carl being under the same promoter?
Allegedly did initially suggest that Groves only joined Matchroom on a 2 fight deal. Groves has boxed twice since he left Allegedly .... This raises some interesting questions.
not sure what froch's arrangement with matchroom is, either.
groves is fighting on the undercard, too, so it's all a mix.
are they going to pull someone off a barstool to fight ochieng?
it's only 18 days away and he has no replacement for the early
kaddour withdrawl, yet.
Re: Kessler sparring with Groves, Cleverly and Skoglund
Posted: 07 May 2013, 17:14
by dbf
G0mez wrote:Good luck to 'em all.
Kessler has stated if he gets beaten, he will 100% retire.
That's immense pressure, plus sparring people who want to do their absolute best against him = burn out ?
By contrast, Froch has been practically in fighting shape since after the Mack fight. Besides a total chill-out holiday in Dubai, he has kept his engine tip top.
Plus his little girl was born a few days ago, that's nicely out of the way and he will be looking at doing the business for his own redemption and for his new little girl. He won't find any better motivation that gaining revenge and doing it for his little family.
Whereas Kessler has what, a motorbike. Bit different really to children.
Thats one way of spinning it. You say "burnt out" others say "tough, top, competitive sparring = best preperation". Baby could quite easily be as big a distraction as a motivation. These things work in different ways for different people. Maybe having another child will make Carl contemplate not wanting to fight. Who knows.
Re: Kessler sparring with Groves, Cleverly and Skoglund
Posted: 07 May 2013, 17:17
by lefty
Final round wrote:Blimey, that's some quality sparring for all parties involved. I wonder if Carl has been on the blower to Groves asking him to stick a few good ones on him in preparation !
I dont think Froch and Groves really get on anymore. They seemed to have a bit of a war of words not that long ago after groves said he'd like a shot at froch. I remember that when Groves was at the beginning of his career, he sparred Froch and Froch dropped him.