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Saunders vs Ryder (and EBU fight for Prince Arron)

Posted: 08 May 2013, 14:27
by magnus
Can't see a thread about this already, but it seems Matchroom have won the purse bids for BJS vs Ryder. Let's hope it happens.

I also read yesterday that Prince Aaron will fight Max Bursak for the EBU title on the bill for the final of that weird Monaco "Super 4" tourney.

Re: Saunders vs Ryder (and EBU fight for Prince Arron)

Posted: 08 May 2013, 14:33
by handsofstone
magnus wrote:Can't see a thread about this already, but it seems Matchroom have won the purse bids for BJS vs Ryder. Let's hope it happens.

I also read yesterday that Prince Aaron will fight Max Bursak for the EBU title on the bill for the final of that weird Monaco "Super 4" tourney.
Isnt Max Bursak EBU Middleweight Champion,is Aaron moving up or am i wrong mate :??

Re: Saunders vs Ryder (and EBU fight for Prince Arron)

Posted: 08 May 2013, 14:41
by magnus
Bursak is Middleweight champ mate. I think Aaron already has moved up.

Re: Saunders vs Ryder (and EBU fight for Prince Arron)

Posted: 08 May 2013, 14:47
by handsofstone
magnus wrote:Bursak is Middleweight champ mate. I think Aaron already has moved up.
Has he? didnt know that bud :TU: i think ive only seen him once since he lost the British to Rose,cant remember the wheres,the whens and the whos,i think everybodys always knew Prince Aaron was a big Light-Middleweight ay

Re: Saunders vs Ryder (and EBU fight for Prince Arron)

Posted: 08 May 2013, 17:50
by rio
Really hope this fight goes ahead and warren dosent pull saunders from it. Two top class young unbeaten fighters. Similar to the delage/groves fight without the anamosity. Should be a great fight. Think saunders will win it but I really havent seen much of ryder but he seems to have alot of hype behind him.

Re: Saunders vs Ryder (and EBU fight for Prince Arron)

Posted: 08 May 2013, 18:22
by Horse
rio wrote:Think saunders will win it but I really havent seen much of ryder but he seems to have alot of hype behind him.
Was Ryder a good amateur? He hasn't done much as a pro to justify much hype.

Re: Saunders vs Ryder (and EBU fight for Prince Arron)

Posted: 09 May 2013, 01:40
by ScottDetonator
If it goes ahead then it will be a perfect test for both fighters. BJS said after his last fight on BN that he would not vacate the title even with the politics in fighting Ryder. One fight on Sky? Don't see a major problem.

BJS needs these tests if he is going to compete at a higher level. If he wants a world title shot, then it is only going to get tougher.

A real good hard domestic clash - exactly what the British title is all about.

Re: Saunders vs Ryder (and EBU fight for Prince Arron)

Posted: 09 May 2013, 05:24
by deliverance
Horse wrote:
rio wrote:Think saunders will win it but I really havent seen much of ryder but he seems to have alot of hype behind him.
Was Ryder a good amateur? He hasn't done much as a pro to justify much hype.
He won two ABA senior novice titles and around 30 of his 30 odd amateur fights so less experience than BJS as an amateur. This should be a very good contest I'm not sure BJS has the power to deter Ryder but may be able to outbox him over 12 rounds. Good to see this match up being made!!

Re: Saunders vs Ryder (and EBU fight for Prince Arron)

Posted: 09 May 2013, 07:37
by Parson Cross
Wonder how generous the bid was and how much he beat Oh Worthy One by.

Re: Saunders vs Ryder (and EBU fight for Prince Arron)

Posted: 09 May 2013, 08:52
by lefty
deliverance wrote:
Horse wrote:
rio wrote:Think saunders will win it but I really havent seen much of ryder but he seems to have alot of hype behind him.
Was Ryder a good amateur? He hasn't done much as a pro to justify much hype.
He won two ABA senior novice titles and around 30 of his 30 odd amateur fights so less experience than BJS as an amateur. This should be a very good contest I'm not sure BJS has the power to deter Ryder but may be able to outbox him over 12 rounds. Good to see this match up being made!!
Big difference between winning Novice titles vs what Saunders achieved as an amateur though huh!

Re: Saunders vs Ryder (and EBU fight for Prince Arron)

Posted: 09 May 2013, 10:10
by mickey1975
I think the fight will take place. Fwank has let it happen before when he is confident. BJS will be on a good contract, he is not a ticket seller and if he cant beat the likes of Ryder then he is no good to FW. That's the way I see it anyway.

Re: Saunders vs Ryder (and EBU fight for Prince Arron)

Posted: 09 May 2013, 10:11
by deliverance
He won two ABA senior novice titles and around 30 of his 30 odd amateur fights so less experience than BJS as an amateur. This should be a very good contest I'm not sure BJS has the power to deter Ryder but may be able to outbox him over 12 rounds. Good to see this match up being made!![/quote]
Big difference between winning Novice titles vs what Saunders achieved as an amateur though huh![/quote]

Yes a big difference as I stated in my post in terms of less experience but I have been impressed by Ryder so I think it's an interesting match up.

Re: Saunders vs Ryder (and EBU fight for Prince Arron)

Posted: 09 May 2013, 10:13
by lefty
[/quote]
Big difference between winning Novice titles vs what Saunders achieved as an amateur though huh![/quote]

Yes a big difference as I stated in my post in terms of less experience but I have been impressed by Ryder so I think it's an interesting match up.[/quote]
Oh dont worry, I know you were saying the same thing. I was just pointing out that as good as winning Novice titles is, its not quite the same as being an Olympian, etc.

Re: Saunders vs Ryder (and EBU fight for Prince Arron)

Posted: 09 May 2013, 10:15
by Deno1986
How the hell does Arron get an EBU shot at middleweight? The EBU are becoming bigger jokers by the day.

Re: Saunders vs Ryder (and EBU fight for Prince Arron)

Posted: 09 May 2013, 10:28
by iamasadlittleboy
Ryder looked very good against O'Kane, BJS has looked oddly poor in his most recent 2...

Re: Saunders vs Ryder (and EBU fight for Prince Arron)

Posted: 09 May 2013, 13:39
by misterpunch
come on johnny ryder!!!!!!!!!!!

Re: Saunders vs Ryder (and EBU fight for Prince Arron)

Posted: 09 May 2013, 13:57
by deliverance
After watching Spitko give BJS a tough fight early on I've not been totally convinced he has bags of talent but not concussive power time will tell on this fight I guess!!

Re: Saunders vs Ryder (and EBU fight for Prince Arron)

Posted: 09 May 2013, 15:24
by Dan Dares
deliverance wrote: This should be a very good contest I'm not sure BJS has the power to deter Ryder but may be able to outbox him over 12 rounds. Good to see this match up being made!!
x 2. Good fight, looking forward to it. Wouldn't like to pick a winner. Anyone that thinks BJS will win easy hasn't seen Ryder box that much. He's solid, awkward and can bang. At some point, I think BJS will have to pass a chin exam. Can't see Ryder getting stopped.

Re: Saunders vs Ryder (and EBU fight for Prince Arron)

Posted: 15 May 2013, 14:41
by warriorbox
So it looks like this is going back to purse bids according to the Twitter of Buncey and Eddie Hearn

Re: Saunders vs Ryder (and EBU fight for Prince Arron)

Posted: 15 May 2013, 15:07
by Dan Dares
Anybody know why it's gone back out to purse bids?

Re: Saunders vs Ryder (and EBU fight for Prince Arron)

Posted: 15 May 2013, 15:13
by warriorbox
Dan Dares wrote:Anybody know why it's gone back out to purse bids?
Go on Bunce's Twitter, bit of a tiff with Eddie Hearn, slagged off Kugan for no reason, pretty funny stuff. I like Bunce but he does seem a little bitter.

As for this fight, someone complained about the way the forms were filled in or something, so back to purse bids.

Re: Saunders vs Ryder (and EBU fight for Prince Arron)

Posted: 15 May 2013, 15:15
by DMA1987
warriorbox wrote:
Dan Dares wrote:Anybody know why it's gone back out to purse bids?
Go on Bunce's Twitter, bit of a tiff with Eddie Hearn, slagged off Kugan for no reason, pretty funny stuff. I like Bunce but he does seem a little bitter.

As for this fight, someone complained about the way the forms were filled in or something, so back to purse bids.
From following Hearn, he reckons that the bid was accepted with written confirmation. Then a complaint.

Boards 'arse fell out' apparently, don't know exactly why though?

Re: Saunders vs Ryder (and EBU fight for Prince Arron)

Posted: 15 May 2013, 15:28
by whiskey
"the form was completed incorrectly"

So a date or something was missed in one of the boxes and now the losing promoter is kicking off for a 2nd bite at the cherry and the BBBoC have ran underneath a rock.

Is that about right?