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What do you see as the top 10 wins in the Middleweight division.

Just to be clear, this is about the division only. So if you nominate Duran over Barkley it has to be because you believe Barkley to be a truly great opponent not because Duran’s best years were more than a decade before…and 3 or 4 weight classes away…

In no particular order: -
Hagler v Hearns
Monzon v Benvenuti
Greb v Walker
Robinson v LaMotta
LaMotta v Robinson
LaMotta v Cerdan
Turpin v Robinson
Fitzsimmons v Dempsey
Ketchel v Thomas
Ketchel v Papke

dr_devious wrote:In no particular order: -
Hagler v Hearns
Monzon v Benvenuti
Greb v Walker
Robinson v LaMotta
LaMotta v Robinson
LaMotta v Cerdan
Turpin v Robinson
Fitzsimmons v Dempsey
Ketchel v Thomas
Ketchel v Papke

I think Robinson weighed about 147 when la Motta beat him so great win but not a great middleweight win. Jake's win against Cerdan was impressive but for me inconclusive due to the injury.

Hearns was not an established great at Middleweight. He'd had maybe 2-3 fights. But it was still a great win.

I think Ketchel v O'Brien should be on there too...as well as Papke v Ketchel.

Greb over Gibbons and over Flowers...

Flowers v Greb

I've never seen Giardello v Tiger but that looks an impressive win on paper.

I'd also include Valdez's KO of Briscoe...rarely does an iron chinned guy get sparked for the count like that. To me that should be up there with Robinson's KO of Fullmer.

Zale - Abrams?

Overlin - Charles?

Marshall over laMotta...

Burley's KO of Williams and defeat of Archie Moore?

Not a mention of Robinson's one punch knockout of Fullmer ?

Seamus wrote:Not a mention of Robinson's one punch knockout of Fullmer ?

I mentioned it...

Michael Nunn's 1st rd KO of Sumbu Kalambay might be top 10. Kalambay was in outstanding form, with wins over Herol Graham, Iran Barkley, Mike McCallum, Robbie Sims, and Doug DeWitt in his last 5, and Nunn iced him with one punch.

Seamus wrote:Michael Nunn's 1st rd KO of Sumbu Kalambay might be top 10. Kalambay was in outstanding form, with wins over Herol Graham, Iran Barkley, Mike McCallum, Robbie Sims, and Doug DeWitt in his last 5, and Nunn iced him with one punch.

nunn coulda woulda and shoulda been an atg

MEISINGER wrote:

Seamus wrote:Michael Nunn's 1st rd KO of Sumbu Kalambay might be top 10. Kalambay was in outstanding form, with wins over Herol Graham, Iran Barkley, Mike McCallum, Robbie Sims, and Doug DeWitt in his last 5, and Nunn iced him with one punch.

nunn coulda woulda and shoulda been an atg

His uppercut vs Curtis Parker was an peach opening a cut too

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=GS2rv-Ar ... S2rv-ArTbA

Ketchell does well here but seems to get forgotten in top 10 lists. He really should be up there.

Surely one of the three Zale/Graziano fights has to be in contention?

Toney over Nunn might qualify

Felix Sturm vs Darren Barker.

Harry Greb's win over Mickey Walker in 15 with failing eyesight in one eye has to be included. Apparently the second round was "sensational".

Was any Ketchel victory over Papke better than his win versus O'Brien in the first bout?

I know he was slightly faded, but Fitzsimmons' overcoming of Dempsey seems highly significant.

Carlos Monzon's wins over Rodrigo Valdez are significant too, so many historic fights at middleweight

orbtastic wrote:Surely one of the three Zale/Graziano fights has to be in contention?

Thank you yes!

dr_devious wrote:Carlos Monzon's wins over Rodrigo Valdez are significant too, so many historic fights at middleweight

I was going to post this.

Monzon's win over Benvenuti was nothing special. Benvenuti was ripe for the taking at that point. Monzon's win over Valdez was much more meaningful and a tougher scalp to take.

Hard to limit this to just 10, but here goes:

Papke dec Ketchel.
Flowers dec Greb.
Robinson def LaMotta I (Could have went with II, III, or IV) Amazing that he could beat a great fighter who was that much heavier than him.
LaMotta KO 15 Dauthille. Dramatic KO with time running out which saved LaMotta's title. Avenged earlier defeat to Dauthille.
Robinson K0 4 Fullmer Great KO left hook against an opponent with a very good chin.
Turpin dec Robinson The most impressive win anyone had over Robinson.
Griffith dec Tiger I. Possibly the biggest of Griffith's career.
Hagler TKO 3 Hearns. For pure action.
Leonard Dec Hagler. Schocking victory for a fighter that had been out for so long and had never fought that heavy before.
Toney TKO 11 Nunn. A lot of people don't remember that Nunn was a much more highly regard fighter at the time.

Hard to put them in order since many are so different.

Papke, Flowers, Griffiths and Leonard's wins are all underrated.